Merged Lloyd England: Eye of the Storm

[beachnut]

I know people misremember things. The crucial point is that Lloyd seemed to immediately change his own location when he was told about the NoC witnesses.

It could be coincidence and confusion but do you really think so? Lloyd suddenly placed himself further NORTH as soon as he found out that witnesses had placed the plane NORTH of the citgo station.

You have no idea what direction north is. Show us on a map where he was, and where he said he was. You believe the lies of CIT? You know how much knowledge and logic you have to ignore to believe CIT? Good for you! Who did it?

 

[vinniem]

It means that the idiots at CIT's claim that Lloyde is a super secret agent is ridiculously stupid. He lets them into his home on several occasions, shows them the car, gives them a gift of the sign from the top of the cab, is incredibly confused about where he was, and he is: THE SECRET LINCHPIN OF THE MOST SOPHISTICATED FRAUD IN HUMAN HISTORY?

God, those guys are idiots.

Can you explain this exchange between Craig and Lloyd?

England: I wasn’t supposed to be involved with this, this is too big for me, man, this is a big thing. This is a world thing happening, I’m a small man…I’m not supposed to be involved in this. This is for other people, people who have money and all this kind of stuff.

Ranke: Your point that these people who have all the money…

England: This is their thing.

Ranke: This is their event.

England: This is for them.

Ranke: Meaning they’re doing it for their own reasons…

England: (with conviction) That’s right. I’m not supposed to be in it.

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Ranke: They must have planned it.

England: It was planned.


England: You know what history is? It’s not the truth. It’s “his story.” Has nothing to do with the truth.

This exchange is a bit puzzling, no? It certainly explains why he might arouse the curiosity of conspiracy theorists.

 

[Scott Sommers]

Wow, I think somebody needs to calm down.

This makes you come across like a retard. You're out here claiming the US government slaughters citizens by the thousands and walks around without having to answer for it. In some countries, that means revolution. But for the 911 Truthers, all that that means is a post on the Internet and a chat on the forum. I can see from the 'citizen's investigation' of the government agents that 911 Truthers think we should all stay calm about this. Is this an American cultural characteristic or is it because you're really just a bunch of young boys pretending you got 'da big testicles. Go to some place where the government really murders people and really speak your mind. See what the government of China does to you when you tell them the Falun Gong have a right to worship.

 

[Arus808]

Can you explain this exchange between Craig and Lloyd?




This exchange is a bit puzzling, no? It certainly explains why he might arouse the curiosity of conspiracy theorists.

acutally not quite at all. More than likely from that exchange, he is lamenting on the fact that he was drawn into an event that he had no idea would blow up to be so big, and that he was an unwilling participant (A WITNESS that is) to a history changing event that happened on US Soil.

Did he ask to be famous from being a witness to what happened? No. Yet his name was brought up in media reports. He was interviewed by who knows how many reporters and investigators, and 5 years later, he has been unemployed since his livelyhood was suddenly taken away from him.

Anyone who reads more into his statements that you quoted is coming from a position that they want to believe he is apart of some vast conspiracy.

 

[vinniem]

acutally not quite at all. More than likely from that exchange, he is lamenting on the fact that he was drawn into an event that he had no idea would blow up to be so big, and that he was an unwilling participant (A WITNESS that is) to a history changing event that happened on US Soil.

Did he ask to be famous from being a witness to what happened? No. Yet his name was brought up in media reports. He was interviewed by who knows how many reporters and investigators, and 5 years later, he has been unemployed since his livelyhood was suddenly taken away from him.

Anyone who reads more into his statements that you quoted is coming from a position that they want to believe he is apart of some vast conspiracy.

I am specifically thinking of his comments about people with money and history not necessarily being the truth.

 

[Arus808]

I am specifically thinking of his comments about people with money and history not necessarily being the truth.

he making a comment. why dont you CALL him and ask him what he meant by those comments instead of coming to a board, where NONE of us has ever talked to him, and CAN MAKE NO inference from his comments as to WHAT he meant?


oh wait, you're a truther. You rather whine and question those who were not there than go to the source.

 

[Scott Sommers]

This is just the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Here we have it, a bunch of 911 Truthers hunting down agents of the killer government. There prime suspect is a 50-year-old taxi driver who lives like he's a 50-year-old taxi driver. He's the key to the Bush Adminstration plan to invade Iraq. If only we can uncover the mystery of Lloyd England, we will certainly know what REALLY happened on 911.

A while back, we we talking about what killed the Truther Movement. It's retards like this, stalking an old man because they know he must be an agent of the tyranny. Really, what's the difference between these idiots and Killtown?

I keep telling you guys, there are 911 Truthers fired from their jobs. There are Arab men going on trial for this event you say never happened. And here you are, all heroes against the tyranny, posting to a bunch of agents of the NWO. Isn't there a better way to spend your time fighting against all that badness? Or is this just about as much as all you heroes can muster?

 

[The Big Dog]

This exchange is a bit puzzling, no? It certainly explains why he might arouse the curiosity of conspiracy theorists.

No.

1. The fact that CIT releases only their edited video tape is a bit puzzling, no?

2. Uh, Lloyde is about as convincing a super secret agent as a house plant.

3. What is "it" anyhow? Thanks Craig and your stupid leading questions rendering the entire edited video worthless.

 

[The Big Dog]

There prime suspect is a 50-year-old taxi driver who lives like he's a 50-year-old taxi driver.

Lloyde is much closer to 90 than 50.

I am pretty sure he recently turned 78?

 

[vinniem]

he making a comment. why dont you CALL him and ask him what he meant by those comments instead of coming to a board, where NONE of us has ever talked to him, and CAN MAKE NO inference from his comments as to WHAT he meant?


oh wait, you're a truther. You rather whine and question those who were not there than go to the source.

Please don't be offended if I stop replying to your posts. You are being very aggressive.

 

[Edx]

Can you explain this exchange between Craig and Lloyd?

This exchange is a bit puzzling, no? It certainly explains why he might arouse the curiosity of conspiracy theorists.

I just did. You ignored it.

Lloyd is a conspiracy theorist that reads David Icke.

 

[Arus808]

Please don't be offended if I stop replying to your posts. You are being very aggressive.

Aggressive responses are the only type of responses you should receive, since you resurrected this old thread, you already should have answers if you BOTHERED to actually read through it.

 

[Scott Sommers]

Lloyde is much closer to 90 than 50.

I am pretty sure he recently turned 80?

No, no...he's fooling all of you, except the super genius Truther revolutionaries against the tyranny. He's really a 30-year-old super agent. I bet he can beat James Bond is hand-to-hand combat with a box cutter.

Thank you for the correction. He's a really old guy. And our 911 hero vinniem is arguing with us about wheather he's a double 'o' operative while KSM is on death row and the Judy Wood can't hold a job because she's a Truther.

Take a stand. Don't be a gumbie. Are you afraid of the New World Order and their reptilian servants...or whatever it's supposed to be? Do you use this stuff as a pick-up line with girls? Do you talk about it with strangers at the bus stop? Or is a special part of your life that you save for the Internet?

Just do something real or expect to be called names.

 

[vinniem]

Aggressive responses are the only type of responses you should receive, since you resurrected this old thread, you already should have answers if you BOTHERED to actually read through it.

I didn't resurrect the thread! Another false claim about me.

Last reply I promise.

 

[Arus808]

I didn't resurrect the thread! Another false claim about me.

Last reply I promise.

my mistake, yet you are replying to it. maybe instead of replying, you should READ what was posted before posting into an old thread?

 

[Edx]

I'm also pretty sure I remember hearing about witness' who only saw the aftermath on the roads having to get treatment for stress and here we have Lloyd was almost killed when the plane flew over him and was almost impaled by a light pole.

But apparently that's no excuse for CIT. Oh wait.. he's really old as well? Still no excuse. Perfect memory or they'll happily lynch you.

 

[Scott Sommers]

Please don't be offended if I stop replying to your posts. You are being very aggressive.

Frankly, I want you to stop posting. I think this makes us all sound like we're retards. It's you who claims the government murders citizens by the thousands. Now you claim we shouldn't be aggressive? Like I said above, in most places in the world, this means revolution. The Iranian government kills a dozen or so and locks up the rest for a beating and thousands march in the streets. What's your problem? Stop being such a coward or expect to be called names.

 

[sylvan8798]

which is leading the witness. 5 years later, old man, forgets what he saw. that is until 2 frauds twisted his words as they were interviewing him.


You also forget that it had been 5 years after the fact that Lloyd was recounting the event. in 5 years, he was witness to news reports, subjected to questions by media and investigators, read magazines and newspapers on the subject, and probably saw a few of the CT's surrounding 9/11/2001. We already know that Lloyd was suffering after that day. He lost his car, probably at the time his only means to earn a living, and that he was unemployed for most of the years following 9/11/2001. This all plays into how one will recount and event.
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45 minutes after the accident, I misremembered what the driver looked like.
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why would anyone expect an old man being questioned by 2 frauds to remember everything from an event that happened 5 years before?

Not to mention the fact that he had undergone what was probably a frightening, heart-stopping event of having a plane fly low enough over him to knock out a light pole which impales his window clear through to the back seat, and then crash horrendously into the building behind him. A few inches made the difference between life and death. Imagine what that scene would have looked like if the pole had impaled him as well.

ETA Bwaaak, edx beat me to it...

 

[sylvan8798]

vinniem - please explain exactly what YOU think a little old taxi driver had to do with this vast conspiracy, and why. Do you honestly believe that anyone on god's green earth said on 9/11 "Well, it sure 'nough don't seem like a plane crashed at the Pentagon, but gosh darn it, that cab with the light pole through it just seals the deal for me. If not for that, I surely wouldn't be believing any of this."

 

[Edx]

vinniem - please explain exactly what YOU think a little old taxi driver had to do with this vast conspiracy, and why. Do you honestly believe that anyone on god's green earth said on 9/11 "Well, it sure 'nough don't seem like a plane crashed at the Pentagon, but gosh darn it, that cab with the light pole through it just seals the deal for me. If not for that, I surely wouldn't be believing any of this."

Haven't you heard?

Lloyd admitted he was in on the conspiracy!

/truther mode.