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Invitation to Derek Johnson to discuss his ideas

newton3376 said:
I'm sure the engineers at NIST would give you a collective "WTF are you talking about?" if you told them that they are being "slowly but surely cornered"....

Must be nice to live in a fantasy land....
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What would you know about any of this? Don't you know that 911 Truth is the biggest issue in the USA? That's why it was so important in the Presidental candidate's debates in 2008. That's why Presidental appointees get fired for their involvement with 911 and ohhhhh so many people are in the streets protesting. That's why 911 hero Dr. Steve Jones gets the axe from his job for babbling about 911 and there's ohhhh so much protest about the unfairness of it all. That's why hundreds and thousands and millions of construction industry professionals are out there protesting the obviousness of it all.

No, no, no, 911 Truth is no longer insanity for the creepiest of the conspiracy theorists. It's something that everyone knows. That's why you could just walk into any fire deprtment around the country and talk with the fire fighters about how 'the government' slaughtered so many of them on 911. You could just write your congressman or senator and ask them to investigate it all. You could just stick up the topic in conversation with anyone, anywhere and they'd understand you're not just a lunatic escaped from the local mental hospital. No, no, no, you are a respectable and concerned activist in the community. A political voice for the those brave enough to speak against oppression.

So stop this persecution of those brave souls with enough gumption to speak Truth against the tyranny of 'the government'. I challenge you, just go out in the community and talk to some real people about 911 Truth. You'll find out soon enough how much everyone cares about this issue.
 
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bill smith said:
I think you will find that the people at www.ae911truth.org including Derek will not waste time arguing with the organ grinder's monkeys when they have the organ grinder itself in the form of NIST right in the crosshairs. They have nothing at all to gain by engaging you guys . They have everything to gain by engaging NIST. And as we all know NIST is being slowly but surely cornered. There will be no escape.
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Please provide evidence that a 9/11 CTist has contacted NIST regarding 9/11. Please include, or provide sources for any documentation they provided to NIST.
bill smith said:
Who has ever heard of the union of concerned scientists ? Yet it is an organisation of 30,000 degreed scientists with one third of them being Ph.d's. They dispute for instance the fake science that is applied to show that manmade glabal warming is actually of any real significance.
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Please provide evidence the "union of concerned scientists" or a member of this organization is pursuing a 9/11 CT claim with another scientific organization or NIST. Please include, or provide sources for any documentation they provided to NIST.
 
DavidJames said:
Please provide evidence that a 9/11 CTist has contacted NIST regarding 9/11. Please include, or provide sources for any documentation they provided to NIST.


Please provide evidence the "union of concerned scientists" or a member of this organization is pursuing a 9/11 CT claim with another scientific organization or NIST. Please include, or provide sources for any documentation they provided to NIST.
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I've only now come to understand the frustration that those brave souls like Bill suffer under. I really do recommend you open your eyes. Really, go talk with some of those ordinary hard-working people in your neighborhood and see how much they care about 911 Truth. Go talk with some of the police in your neighborhood. Or try talking with the the groups that protest the war in Iraq. Just see how many out there really care about 911 Truth or if they look at you like you just grew 2 heads. Take a risk. Bring it up at the bus stop next time someone asks you for the time. Or next time you're on a date - if anyone will go near you - bring it up as a topic to show how serious and informed you are about the world. Take my advice. I guaruntee you're in for an experience.
 
scott.in.taiwan said:
Bill, Bill, Bill, how great to hear a Truther - if that's what you are - throw their opinion in here. Yes, that's right, an army of Truther scholars that have no impact on the world. They appear nowhere. No one outside the Internet knows their name. I wouldn't even be surprised if you even the 911 Truth internet army forgets all about this when they shut off their laptop.

Bill, Bill, Bill, you just make me laugh. That's right, 911 Truth is the issue that's ripping America apart. That's why so many famous and well-respected wife beaters and senile old actors support it in public. But as for famous and well-known engineers, building designers and thermite experts...Oh, once again I forgot about those leading experts Dicky G. and our own Tony Z.

But let's not take this too seriously. I recommend you get a some sort of romantic outlet. That might distract you from the impending revolution where Truthers and their followers rise up and overthrow the New World Order or something like that.

Enough of that. I'm bored....
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Well as long as you can still laugh Scott it can't be all bad. And if you are bored just write it away. The better you write the less bored you will be. And just think of all the money you could make selling your work ?

I guess the best thing for us Truthers to do is just keep on plugging away. Perhaps the eloquence of your arguments will someday persuade us [wink].
 
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Is Bill saying the Truth Movement has tacked itself on to the Global Warming movement? How fun is that? One stop shopping for all your conspiracies, that's what I say.
 
3bodyproblem said:
Is Bill saying the Truth Movement has tacked itself on to the Global Warming movement? How fun is that? One stop shopping for all your conspiracies, that's what I say.
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It's a fact. The NWO/Illuminati thingimajiggy created the false AGW scare, as well as the fake Swine Flu/Vaccine scare. During the flurry of stories about vaccines in the Globe and Mail, several truthers spammed threads by linking these issues together - yes, 9/11 was directly linked to the Swine Flu and Climate Change denial.

Also see my thread quoting a truther associate of mine.

Very sad, isn't it?

ETA from his letter:

'Then the next big fake False Flag is 911. So 3,000 dead Americans and another million or so dead Arabs. '
'Man is not heating up the world ! See [Global Warming Swindle ...CBC : Global Warming Doomsday called off] If you think Wall Street made easy cash with Banker Gate wait until you see the the huge cash-flow [cash cow] with Climate Gate. This is a made up scam to tax and control us to death.
Read [The Great American Bubble Machine]
The deal is, ...with Banker Gate / Climate Gate / Vaccine Gate see Vaccines: The Deadly Cure'
 
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Well with the Swine Flu thing I think only an idiot could be unaware that there were massive machinations afoot to overhype the issue. And of course we know that big big money was made by the Pharmaceutical giants and their friends from the massive contracts for the supply of vaccine that they received from governments all around the world

. Funnily enough a World Pandemic had to be declared by the World Health Organisation (WHO) in order to to set these contracts in motion.

So the media machine went into super-overdrive but as luck will have it the virus failed to display the essential characteristics necessary for the declaration of a Pandemic .Those of of 'high morbidity and a high mortality rate'.

Of course to the acute embarrassment of the media and government who were trying to scare us half to death on the issue no such condition prevailed.

So What did the WHO do ? Why..they simply dropped these essential requirements ( high morbidity and a high mortality rate ) from the definition of a pandemic. Now any flu at all can be declared a pandemic by the new rules. Possibly even the common cold can.
http://www.flu-treatments.com/pandemic-definition.html


Isn't it exciting to watch how science can be corrupted in the pursuit of money and power.And right in our faces. It's lucky that all you debunkers are all such avid supporters of the perps or they could never get away with cheating and deceiving the people as they are doing each and every day. You guys call them the NWO
 
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Bill - You seem to have overlooked my questions regarding your claims:
bill smith said:
I think you will find that the people at www.ae911truth.org including Derek will not waste time arguing with the organ grinder's monkeys when they have the organ grinder itself in the form of NIST right in the crosshairs. They have nothing at all to gain by engaging you guys . They have everything to gain by engaging NIST. And as we all know NIST is being slowly but surely cornered. There will be no escape.
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Please provide evidence that a 9/11 CTist has contacted NIST regarding 9/11. Please include, or provide sources for any documentation they provided to NIST.
bill smith said:
Who has ever heard of the union of concerned scientists ? Yet it is an organisation of 30,000 degreed scientists with one third of them being Ph.d's. They dispute for instance the fake science that is applied to show that manmade glabal warming is actually of any real significance.
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Please provide evidence the "union of concerned scientists" or a member of this organization believes is pursuing a 9/11 CT claim with another scientific organization or NIST.
 
DavidJames said:
Bill - You seem to have overlooked my questions regarding your claims:
Please provide evidence that a 9/11 CTist has contacted NIST regarding 9/11. Please include, or provide sources for any documentation they provided to NIST. Please provide evidence the "union of concerned scientists" or a member of this organization believes is pursuing a 9/11 CT claim with another scientific organization or NIST.
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I doubt that many people out there doubt that NIST have received Steven Jones's paper on WTC7 for instance. That will do for starters. You can claim that that is not so. Go ahead.

The union of concerned scientists named themselves to reflect their concern about the corruption of science in general by politicians for their own ends. In this respect who can doubt that they are fully (if quietly) standing by in the wings. It would be fun as you say yourself if they suddenly all signed up together with Sir Richard Gage at www.ae911truth.org. Overnight from 1,000 to 31,000 degreed and licenced professionals calling for an immediate new investigation into 9/11. Yes sir...it would be better than winning the lottery. lol
 
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DavidJames said:
Please provide evidence that a 9/11 CTist has contacted NIST regarding 9/11. Please include, or provide sources for any documentation they provided to NIST.
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Far be it from me to intrude, but numerous 9/11 conspiracy nuts have contacted NIST: http://wtc.nist.gov/comments08/

You'll note, however, the extremely low quality of the submissions. It's no difficulty at all separating their comments from those of more intelligent individuals. Sheer comedy, in fact.
 
tfk said:
Now, now...

We were all young &, uh, "impulsive" at certain points in our lives. Probably even you, beach...

Let's first attempt to give young Mr. Johnson the benefit of our kind wisdom. If that don't work, then we can sic the Rottweilers on him.

:cool:

Tom
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Doubt anyone in 911 truth or Gage's nut club is capable of presenting evidence, their only products are lies and junk for idiots to repeat.
 
bill smith said:
I doubt that many people out there doubt that NIST have received Steven Jones's paper on WTC7 for instance. That will do for starters. You can claim that that is not so. Go ahead.

The union of concerned scientists named themselves to reflect their concern about the corruption of science in general by politicians for their own ends. In this respect who can doubt that they are fully (if quietly) standing by in the wings. It would be fun as you say yourself if they suddenly all signed up together with Sir Richard Gage at www.ae911truth.org. Overnight from 1,000 to 31,000 degreed and licenced professionals calling for an immediate new investigation into 9/11. Yes sir...it would be better than winning the lottery. lol
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Other then naming Jones, you didn't answer my questions. I also note that you made up (lied?) about the Union of Concerned Scientists.
R.Mackey said:
Far be it from me to intrude, but numerous 9/11 conspiracy nuts have contacted NIST: http://wtc.nist.gov/comments08/

You'll note, however, the extremely low quality of the submissions. It's no difficulty at all separating their comments from those of more intelligent individuals. Sheer comedy, in fact.
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Thanks Ryan. I had no doubts many people submitted "stuff". What I was looking for (and not to my surprise, didn't get) were the details.

ETA - It's the details which would expose them as the ignorant frauds they are.
 
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scott.in.taiwan said:
What would you know about any of this? Don't you know that 911 Truth is the biggest issue in the USA? That's why it was so important in the Presidental candidate's debates in 2008. That's why Presidental appointees get fired for their involvement with 911 and ohhhhh so many people are in the streets protesting. That's why 911 hero Dr. Steve Jones gets the axe from his job for babbling about 911 and there's ohhhh so much protest about the unfairness of it all. That's why hundreds and thousands and millions of construction industry professionals are out there protesting the obviousness of it all.

No, no, no, 911 Truth is no longer insanity for the creepiest of the conspiracy theorists. It's something that everyone knows. That's why you could just walk into any fire deprtment around the country and talk with the fire fighters about how 'the government' slaughtered so many of them on 911. You could just write your congressman or senator and ask them to investigate it all. You could just stick up the topic in conversation with anyone, anywhere and they'd understand you're not just a lunatic escaped from the local mental hospital. No, no, no, you are a respectable and concerned activist in the community. A political voice for the those brave enough to speak against oppression.

So stop this persecution of those brave souls with enough gumption to speak Truth against the tyranny of 'the government'. I challenge you, just go out in the community and talk to some real people about 911 Truth. You'll find out soon enough how much everyone cares about this issue.
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ROFL....

The last line was classic...
 
R.Mackey said:
Far be it from me to intrude, but numerous 9/11 conspiracy nuts have contacted NIST: http://wtc.nist.gov/comments08/

You'll note, however, the extremely low quality of the submissions. It's no difficulty at all separating their comments from those of more intelligent individuals. Sheer comedy, in fact.
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Oh my Lord. How is it possible they don't realize how crazy these comments make them look?
 
bill smith said:
I doubt that many people out there doubt that NIST have received Steven Jones's paper on WTC7 for instance. That will do for starters. You can claim that that is not so. Go ahead.

The union of concerned scientists named themselves to reflect their concern about the corruption of science in general by politicians for their own ends. In this respect who can doubt that they are fully (if quietly) standing by in the wings. It would be fun as you say yourself if they suddenly all signed up together with Sir Richard Gage at www.ae911truth.org. Overnight from 1,000 to 31,000 degreed and licenced professionals calling for an immediate new investigation into 9/11. Yes sir...it would be better than winning the lottery. lol
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You've got a better chance with the lottery.
 
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