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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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What evidence do you have that the religious beliefs of over 40 US presidents and the US Congress who made the official US national motto "In God We Trust" are based on fairy tales.
Once again, "In God We Trust" was not put on the dollar bill until 1957, and it was only because of the time and Mccarthyism, THE BIG RED SCARE.

Paul

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The first "In God We Trust" showed up on the Two Cent Piece in 1864 during a Civil War.
 
Joobz you know full well the verse you allude to is translated servant and not slave in the great majority of translations. Why do you continue to misrepresent that verse. To be honest you should say Jesus condones servants.
The greek says dolous which is a slave, a bondservant.

But does it really make it better that Jesus condones beating servants?
 
Once again, "In God We Trust" was not put on the dollar bill until 1957, and it was only because of the time and Mccarthyism, THE BIG RED SCARE.

Paul

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The first "In God We Trust" showed up on the Two Cent Piece in 1864 during a Civil War.

Funny how we turn to God when times are tough. The churches were packed after 911. And Lincoln mentioned God or Providence 11 times in his second inaugural address (during the Civil War).
 
The greek says dolous which is a slave, a bondservant.

But does it really make it better that Jesus condones beating servants?

It must because you always use slaves instead of servants even though the vast majority of translations say servants. And you never mention that the punished servant in the parable beat several maidens and several manservants.
 
It must because you always use slaves instead of servants even though the vast majority of translations say servants.
because servant is highly misleading. Dolous is a type of slave, a servant. It is entirely dishonest to pretend that the servant being described is the same as a maid for hire. Sorry, but Jesus condoned slavery and the beating of slaves.
the bible condones slavery.
The bible condones the slaughter of children.
The bible is a horrible source of morality.
And you never mention that the punished servant in the parable beat several maidens and several manservants.

Actually, no. it say that if a slave knew or didn't know he broke a rule, he'd get beat. only the severity would be different.
 
Funny how we turn to God when times are tough. The churches were packed after 911. And Lincoln mentioned God or Providence 11 times in his second inaugural address (during the Civil War).
No, it is funny that you do, and it is not we thank-you. The founding father's would have been upset with this "GOD" stuff put on the money. And it doesn't say which god to begin with, a flying one comes to mind.

Paul

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And on Lincoln, it is called, "Playing to the crowd"
 
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What evidence do you have that the religious beliefs of over 40 US presidents and the US Congress who made the official US national motto "In God We Trust" are based on fairy tales.


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If you read my 1400 posts maybe starting with post 7667 (pg. 192) you will find out. If you don't like the evidence then so be it.

Doc, I have read every one of your 1400 posts in this thread. I wish I hadn't, believe me. I want that time back. But I have. And you have yet to produce anything that is actually valid evidence.

All you've presented so far is the circular "The bible is true because it says it's true" and the argument from popularity "X number of people believe, so it must be true."

Those sources/"pieces of evidence" would hardly prove that I exist, much less that the supernatural exists(ed).
 
Doc, I have read every one of your 1400 posts in this thread. I wish I hadn't, believe me. I want that time back. But I have. And you have yet to produce anything that is actually valid evidence.

All you've presented so far is the circular "The bible is true because it says it's true" and the argument from popularity "X number of people believe, so it must be true."

Those sources/"pieces of evidence" would hardly prove that I exist, much less that the supernatural exists(ed).


If only there were some way to illustrate your most excellent point.
 
You got it :), good, it is the same so-called god reasoning that we have gotten so far. The bible says the bible is right, so the bible is right because the bible says so, The bible.............

Paul

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You got it :), good, it is the same so-called god reasoning that we have gotten so far. The bible says the bible is right, so the bible is right because the bible says so, The bible.............

Paul

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Actually, I think it goes more like:

The bible says the bible is true, and since X number of "important" and X*10^100 "not-so-important" people feel that to be sufficient, you should as well because the bible says the bible is true.
 
3000 were saved at Pentecost, Acts 2:41 (50 days after the resurrection)

Membership of 5000 men (not including the woman who were there) Acts 4:4

Turned the world upside down Acts 17:6 (within 25 years)
Where did they all go? How did they vanish without trace? Surely such a substantial nucleus of a church, of eyewitnesses, would have led to a thriving community of believers in the area; where is it?
And if you don't like Luke we know from a secular historian (Tacitus) that Nero blamed the Christians in Rome in 64 ad for the fire that destroyed much of the city.

There is plenty of historical evidence that Christianity grew very fast.
You mentioned this before; even if Nero did blame the Christians, that in itself doesn't prove there was any more than a visible handful of them, not a substantial church.
 
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