I think Chewy is trying to become our first debunker stundie winner.
Enjoy this musical:
Have I told you, lately, that I love you?
oh, and by the way, JREF is not bound by the the U.S. Constitution. Neither is any privately-owned publication in the USA.
LOL Parky!
I know, but why would anyone post anything that's privately owned on the internet. I can see if it's a business, but a forum? Hmmmmm!
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"silica/ceramic fireproofing"?? It was spray on lightweight fire insulation. To my knowledge it was not ceramic or cementatious. The spray on imsulation is not intended for blast exposure or in abrasive enviroments such as when a friggin large jetliner crashes at high speed. The contention here is beyond ridiculous.
Far from a 'worst case senario' NIST did their sims using parameters that varied because those parameters could not be known for a certainty and it so happens that the worse case sim'd is the one that best matches observed events. If the CT wishes to claim that the lesser cases were in effect and "more probable" then he must give reason to assume so. Something beyond "NIST is bad" would be required.
Because NIST was stating, IIRC, that pancaking was not the primary effect for the entire collapse. (...)
This is not true. The poster presents luck of basic designing and construction knowledge. Most of high raise schemes are designed to resist different worst case scenarios, i.e. big passenger jet hitting the building. This building was no exception.
This is not true. The poster presents luck of basic designing and construction knowledge. Most of high raise schemes are designed to resist different worst case scenarios, i.e. big passenger jet hitting the building. This building was no exception.
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2) Weakened the structure of the building.
For NIST's models to work, both computer and lab tests, they had to remove nearly all of the silica/ceramic fireproofing over a large area of the floor. Second (this is the damning part), they had to remove 50% of the trusses and cross-members to initiate a global collapse. They even state in their reports that they had to use extreme measures to duplicate the results (a so-called "worst-case scenario). The probable scenarios couldn't create the results.
SO?
You're an idiot. Next!
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It wasn't designed for a jet airliner flying at 500MPH.
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The towers were also not designed to survive structural damage and unfought major fire. No modern steel building is.