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Hardfire: Szamboti / Chandler / Mackey

T.A.M. said:
Shhhh...he is busy writing up his "I will make Mackey look like a fool" paper....remember?

TAM;)
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These guys remind me of the first days of hand-held calculators (anybody remember the HP-35?) when the guys who could afford them were taking the readings off of pressure gages (good to 10% any day), and calculating force by multiplying 10.3 psi *5.1 inch radius2 x 3.14159265 and reporting the answer as 841.64209667 lb...

counting pixels and "time stamps", and calculating the 3rd time derivative of displacement, and claiming that they are accurate...
 
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T.A.M. said:
Shhhh...he is busy writing up his "I will make Mackey look like a fool" paper....remember?
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Actually, he's over at Gregory's Forum, trying to retroactively make true his earlier claim that "most" other people think his jolt is real and/or significant.

What brave people these Truthers are, to do such daring things! If it ever came to a shooting war with tyranny, I sure wouldn't want them on the line beside me, I'll tell you that.
 
R.Mackey said:
Actually, he's over at Gregory's Forum, trying to retroactively make true his earlier claim that "most" other people think his jolt is real and/or significant.

What brave people these Truthers are, to do such daring things! If it ever came to a shooting war with tyranny, I sure wouldn't want them on the line beside me, I'll tell you that.
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You certainly don't have to worry about that . It would be a sad Truther that would stand in the tyranny trenches beside you. I tend to think that the Truthers would be in the opposite trenches.
 
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bill smith said:
You certainly don't have to worry about that . It would be a sad Truther.......
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Why do these COWARDS look sad?
 
R.Mackey said:
Actually, he's over at Gregory's Forum, trying to retroactively make true his earlier claim that "most" other people think his jolt is real and/or significant.

What brave people these Truthers are, to do such daring things! If it ever came to a shooting war with tyranny, I sure wouldn't want them on the line beside me, I'll tell you that.
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Pfff... as if those jokers would ever even show up on the line...
 
One other thing Szamboti hasn't considered is that after the towers collapsed rescuing the trapped and injured had a higher priority than saving a building already beyond salvage anyway.
 
WildCat said:
One other thing Szamboti hasn't considered is that after the towers collapsed rescuing the trapped and injured had a higher priority than saving a building already beyond salvage anyway.
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What does Mr. Szamboti care for human life? Empathy doesn't appear to be an ability he possesses...
 
WildCat said:
One other thing Szamboti hasn't considered is that after the towers collapsed rescuing the trapped and injured had a higher priority than saving a building already beyond salvage anyway.
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In other words it is the typical truther tactic of monday morning quarterbacking.

I mean we have repeatedly heard how twoofs woudn't just sit in the jet when it was hijacked. They would have heroically fought back if it had been them.

They say the same thing about the pilots

and about NIST not investigating enough to meet their ever changing requirements

and about how there wasn't a "full independent investigation."

So now it is monday morning quarterbacking the FDNY. Of course.

Glad to know that is a horrendously chaotic situation truthers would be so clear headed. Tony S should be in charge of the FDNY just for a day with big fires and catastrophes... I'd love to see how "well" he would do. Typical bluster with a lack of knowledge or understanding of the situation on the ground.
 
triforcharity said:
Is he talking about the ones in the Naudet video?? If he is, I will find their names. I don't remember who they are off the top of my head.

Maybe someone else knows?
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Yes thats it, you know the one its the one truthers always use. You think there would be an interview?
 
TruthersLie said:
Tri that is not fair.

You guys wear those helmets...
and I'm sure a lot of you needed to Pee.


inside jobby job!!!!1!!!
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See how easy it was to put that fire out? How come you couldnt do it on 911, firefighters! What are you hiding!!! /truthermode
 
Edx said:
Yes thats it, you know the one its the one truthers always use. You think there would be an interview?
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IIRC, those were guys from another company. I will find out, and get back to you. It may take a few days, as I am working overtime this week.
 
WildCat said:
One other thing Szamboti hasn't considered is that after the towers collapsed rescuing the trapped and injured had a higher priority than saving a building already beyond salvage anyway.
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What you are failing to realize is that creating a collapse zone around WTC 7 caused the search and rescue efforts, for anyone still alive in the twin tower wreckage, to be suspended for quite a few hours.

I think this would have been against chief Daniel Nigro's instinct and he would have only done it if he was told WTC 7 was coming down in order to not have additional casualties. I seriously doubt that he decided all by himself that WTC 7 was going to collapse.
 
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Tony Szamboti said:
Why would you even make a ridiculous comment like this?
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Tony,

Since you made claims reguarding CDs, jolts & the fires not able to collapse 3 buildings.

Mechanical Engineers usually incorporate computer-aided engineering (CAE) programs into their existing design and analysis processes, including 2D and 3D solid modeling computer-aided design (CAD).
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Questions:

Where is your CAE or CAD proving that the tilt in WTC2 had a jolt?

Where is your CAE or CAD proving that fire wasn't the result of collapse in all 3 Towers?

Where is your CAE or CAD that explosives were planted in the key supports to bring it down?

You have alot of words to say, but fail to show it scientifically!
 
TruthersLie said:
In other words it is the typical truther tactic of monday morning quarterbacking.

I mean we have repeatedly heard how twoofs woudn't just sit in the jet when it was hijacked. They would have heroically fought back if it had been them.

They say the same thing about the pilots

and about NIST not investigating enough to meet their ever changing requirements

and about how there wasn't a "full independent investigation."

So now it is monday morning quarterbacking the FDNY. Of course.

Glad to know that is a horrendously chaotic situation truthers would be so clear headed. Tony S should be in charge of the FDNY just for a day with big fires and catastrophes... I'd love to see how "well" he would do. Typical bluster with a lack of knowledge or understanding of the situation on the ground.
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I realize how brutal it had to be for NYC firefighters on Sept. 11, 2001, with the devastating loss of life. However, there are legitimate questions concerning the events of Sept. 11, 2001 and they aren't simply Monday morning quarterbacking types of questions.

I am sure Chief Daniel Nigro did not decide on his own that WTC 7 was going to collapse and whoever told him it was going to collapse needs to explain how they knew that.
 
Tony Szamboti said:
What you are failing to realize is that creating a collapse zone around WTC 7 caused the search and rescue efforts for anyone still alive in the twin tower wreckage to be suspended for quite a few hours.

I think this would have been against chief Daniel Nigro's instinct and he would have only done it if he was told WTC 7 was coming down in order to not have additional causualties. I seriously doubt that he decided all by himself that WTC 7 was going to collapse.
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Once more, you think you know more about the fires and damage to WTC, and its appearance, than the experienced firefighters who were there.

You are delusional.
 
Tony Szamboti said:
I realize how brutal it had to be for NYC firefighters on Sept. 11, 2001, with the devastating loss of life. However, there are legitimate questions concerning the events of Sept. 11, 2001 and they aren't simply Monday morning quarterbacking types of questions.

I am sure Chief Daniel Nigro did not decide on his own that WTC 7 was going to collapse and whoever told him it was going to collapse needs to explain how they knew that.
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Tony,

I did it. How did I know? Well, you see, when someone goes through basic fire school, we learn that heat (henceforth known as fire) plus steel -Liquid
H2o (henceforth known as water) = Building not safe.
Add 7 hours of burn time=Building will fall down.
 
Tony Szamboti said:
What you are failing to realize is that creating a collapse zone around WTC 7 caused the search and rescue efforts, for anyone still alive in the twin tower wreckage, to be suspended for quite a few hours.I think this would have been against chief Daniel Nigro's instinct and he would have only done it if he was told WTC 7 was coming down in order to not have additional casualties. I seriously doubt that he decided all by himself that WTC 7 was going to collapse.
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Wrong.

Go back and try again. I was still working on the opposite side of the WTC, across West street, south of Veasey St.

Try again.
 
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