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Support for Scottish Independence falling

It seems everyone wants to get away from Dear Olde Mum until they find out how hard it is to be self-sufficient in a soft labour market.
 
Darat said:
It is a good point - if the SNP can get the question that Alex Salmon has in his head (he knows what question it is but he won't tell us yet) onto the referendum and the population say "no we don't want to be independent" will the SNP say "fair cop" and stop trying to move Scotland to independence?
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Salmond has said it is a question which should only be put once in a generation. That seems fair enough to me
 
All the polls I have seen are of what Sottish people may vote for. As an Englishman, and as England is part of the united Kingdom, shouldnt I get vote?
 
only if you want to vote on whether england should secede from the union.
 
Does the White Paper address the issue of the UK's government debt?
 
It's for the people of Scotland to decide, but that a few people here are willing to support independence because they are afraid the Tories might get back into power in the UK strikes me as being pretty shortsighted.
Hint: Declaring Indendence just because you do not like an election result is not a good idea. The Southren US tried it in 1861,did not work out too well for them.
 
HypnoPsi said:
The thing that really bugs me about independence parties like the SNP in Scotland, is that they are just waiting for that one single moment in time when they think the population will vote in favour of breaking away from the rest of the UK.

What about the fact that over the course of several years the overwhelming majority of the population of Scotland has not supported breaking away from the UK?

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Rubbish. They have waited until they could get into power and put out the referendum. They are putting it out at a time when the support is falling.

What about the fact that over an amount of years the majority has supported a referendum?
 
dudalb said:
It's for the people of Scotland to decide, but that a few people here are willing to support independence because they are afraid the Tories might get back into power in the UK strikes me as being pretty shortsighted.
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It's called experience. If you did not live through it, count yourself lucky. The Tory party philosphies and the political leanings of the people of Scotland could not be anymore different.
 
funk de fino said:
It's called experience. If you did not live through it, count yourself lucky. The Tory party philosphies and the political leanings of the people of Scotland could not be anymore different.
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At the last national election, 15.8% of votes cast in Scotland were for the Tories. The SNP got 17.7%. More than 400,000 of your fellow Scots disagree with you.
 
I just think the SNP has waited too long for this. Just like Gordon Brown, who had he called an election within the first few months of taking over as PM might have stood a chance of winning it.
 
So when does the Kingdom of Strathclyde get it's independence?
 
gtc said:
At the last national election, 15.8% of votes cast in Scotland were for the Tories. The SNP got 17.7%. More than 400,000 of your fellow Scots disagree with you.
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How many Tory MP's have there been in Westminster from Scottish constituencies in the last 16 years?

How many Tory MP's would there have been in Holyrood if it had not been for the PR part of the voting?

3rd party in Scotland by a long way.

3rd May 2007

Percentage of vote constituency - SNP 32.9%, Conservative 16.6%
percentage of vote regional - SNP 31.0%, Conservative 13.9%
Total seats - SNP 47, Conservative 17

PS - Add the other parties to your figures to make them relevant to my claim.
 
Darat said:
It is a good point - if the SNP can get the question that Alex Salmon has in his head (he knows what question it is but he won't tell us yet) onto the referendum and the population say "no we don't want to be independent" will the SNP say "fair cop" and stop trying to move Scotland to independence?
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Do you think if the Tories win the next UK election that Labour will say 'fair cop' and stop trying to get elected?

Is that really how you think politics should work?
 
commandlinegamer said:
I just think the SNP has waited too long for this. Just like Gordon Brown, who had he called an election within the first few months of taking over as PM might have stood a chance of winning it.
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I agree the support is falling but it was never the plan to do it straight away. The global finacial crisis has made it even more difficult than it would have been. (IMO)
 
With the EU, and European borders slowly being erased, what's the point of independence?
 
Darat said:
I would support further devolution of powers to the Scottish parliament, and at the same time doing so for the rest of the countries and regions of the UK, I think the UK would be a better country (in terms of supporting the needs of its citizens) if it was much more formally "federated".
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Well, possibly, but the north of England voted against their own assembly (in Yorkshire I think).

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