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Split Thread 'Nose-out' footage

BigAl said:
Why don't you watch the film?
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I've seen it before. It's a bit too hero-making for me. I thnk a fireman is no more special than a cop or a soldier for instance, yet there is no song and dance about them. I can only take so much of that kind of stuff at one sitting.
 
bill smith said:
I've seen it before. It's a bit too hero-making for me. I thnk a fireman is no more special than a cop or a soldier for instance, yet there is no song and dance about them. I can only take so much of that kind of stuff at one sitting.
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THAT'S all you get out of the film? I'll ask again. Are you for real?
 
BigAl said:
Watch the Naudet film in it's entirety.

http://www.livevideo.com/video/CB1538AC44C9474E9CB21A7F275ED14E/naudet-brothers-9-11-1-of-10.aspx

(in 10 parts.)

New Yorkers will tell you it is accurate.
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bill smith said:
I've seen it before. It's a bit too hero-making for me. I thnk a fireman is no more special than a cop or a soldier for instance, yet there is no song and dance about them. I can only take so much of that kind of stuff at one sitting.
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If you've watched it before and wanted to see if there were people looking up then you would have noticed in part 3 a few minutes in as a FF says "it was a two minute ride.." the camera quickly shows people on the sidewalk ALL LOOKING UP. There is about 30 of them in this tight, quick shot. A few seconds later as he says that all the people were .."looking up" the shot shows about 100 people doing this.

Those are the only 130 people in the street in manhattan at 9am on a weekday morning, right Bill?

58 seconds before the end of part 3 once again we see people on the street and there is upwards of several hundred people looking up.
17 second sbefore the end, just as the sound of the second aircraft is heard coming in he pans down momentarily and there are thousands of people in the general vicinity again, most of them with their heads up, the guy right in front of Naudet is looking up with a cell phone to his ear when the plane comes in from the left.
EVERYONE in that area had a view of the plane, they would not have seen the actual impact since that occured on the other side of the building but they would have seen an aircraft flying very fast towards the building and the fireball and damage on the exit side.

WERE THESE PEOPLE ALL DUPED? HOW DID THEY SEE AN AIRCRAFT THAT WAS SUPPOSEDLY NOT THERE?

I've done the work for you bill. No need to thank me.
 
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jaydeehess said:
If you've watched it before and wanted to see if there were people looking up then you would have noticed in part 3 a few minutes in as a FF says "it was a two minute ride.." the camera quickly shows people on the sidewalk ALL LOOKING UP. There is about 30 of them in this tight, quick shot. A few seconds later as he says that all the people were .."looking up" the shot shows about 100 people doing this.

Those are the only 130 people in the street in manhattan at 9am on a weekday morning, right Bill?

58 seconds before the end of part 3 once again we see people on the street and there is upwards of several hundred people looking up.
17 second sbefore the end, just as the sound of the second aircraft is heard coming in he pans down momentarily and there are thousands of people in the general vicinity again, most of them with their heads up, the guy right in front of Naudet is looking up with a cell phone to his ear when the plane comes in from the left.
EVERYONE in that area had a view of the plane, they would not have seen the actual impact since that occured on the other side of the building but they would have seen an aircraft flying very fast towards the building and the fireball and damage on the exit side.

WERE THESE PEOPLE ALL DUPED? HOW DID THEY SEE AN AIRCRAFT THAT WAS SUPPOSEDLY NOT THERE?

I've done the work for you bill. No need to thank me.
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'' ...just as the sound of the second aircraft is heard coming in he pans down momentarily and there are thousands of people in the general vicinity again, most of them with their heads up, the guy right in front of Naudet is looking up with a cell phone to his ear when the plane comes in from the left. ..''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUT7yup-YIg&NR=1 Naudet 2
 
the WTC opened up early in the AM. i believe possibly 40,000 people worked at the WTC complex.

but of course, no one was there that morning. it was only a Tuesday and no one works on Tuesdays.

:)
 
bill smith said:
I've seen it before. It's a bit too hero-making for me. I thnk a fireman is no more special than a cop or a soldier for instance, yet there is no song and dance about them. I can only take so much of that kind of stuff at one sitting.
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I don't believe you've watched the film. If you had, you wouldn't be asking for crowd shots.

By 'watching the film", I mean end-to-end. Liking it or not is irrelevant for the purposes of understanding what happened in NYC on 9/11. That film reflects reality. Any New Yorker that was anywhere WTC on 9/11 will tell you that and any New Yorker familiar with FDNY will vouch for the accuracy, in general.

Your willingness to slam FDNY with accusations of unsubstantiated, unspecified evil is noted.

You are a troll.
 
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bardamu said:
I don't see broken columns on the north side of the South Tower, so all this stuff went through separate windows, then instead of spreading outwards, it tapered off into a rounded tip. Do you have any references that would explain the physics behind this?
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Horse patooties. See figure 7-74 of NCSTAR 1-2 (it's on page 392 of the .pdf).

As for the physics of some of the more substantial pieces of the airplane exiting the north face, you might want to read Section 7.10.2, "Comparison with Observables on WTC2."
 
bill smith said:
'' ...just as the sound of the second aircraft is heard coming in he pans down momentarily and there are thousands of people in the general vicinity again, most of them with their heads up, the guy right in front of Naudet is looking up with a cell phone to his ear when the plane comes in from the left. ..''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUT7yup-YIg&NR=1 Naudet 2
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You've been shown the link , the actual Naudet Brothers video site, not a youtube clip (hey there were two of them hence the tern 'brothers',, I wonder if that is significant in any way?)
here's the one I was refering to http://www.livevideo.com/video/63535D432A874676A3B9D794A402430B/naudet-brothers-9-11-3-of-10.aspx
 
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Seems I was off on one point. The Naudet's did in fact get good shots showing the crowd prior to the second impact.

Bill is doing the visual equivalent of putting his fingers in his ears and shouting "yah yah yah I can't hear you"

Watch the video Big Al linked to Bill. Watch the specfic places in the third part of the Naudet videos that I mention bill. Its easy to say you were wrong bill. See I just did it in this post, in the first sentence. Now its your turn.
 
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i must agree with the majority of Truthers that the "No Planes Theory" really is most likely some sort of dis-info.

a great way to destroy a campaign is to associate it with pure insanity.
 
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bill smith said:
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Well i's definitely interesting wouldn't you say ? They were close together too as they had just tbeen talking as we heard. TWO Cameras eh ?
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Yep, you heard someone talking in the youtube video. I don't see that the video is attributed to the Naudet's but I'll take your word for it. Now who is talking in that video?

Have you watched the video bits I graciously indicated show the crowd shots taken by one of the Naudet's? I watched your youtube link.
Reciprocity?

Well, its been a slice,,, I have things to do, people to see. Sane people, good people, in fact I am off to help in the taping of our town's christmas parade
 
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bill smith said:
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Well it's definitely interesting wouldn't you say ? They were close together too as they had just tbeen talking as we heard. TWO Cameras eh ?
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Whatever your point is, So What?

Stop whining and making excuses.
 
jaydeehess said:
Yep, you heard someone talking in the youtube video. I don't see that the video is attributed to the Naudet's but I'll take your word for it. Now who is talking in that video?

Have you watched the video bits I graciously indicated show the crowd shots taken by one of the Naudet's? I watched your youtube link.
Reciprocity?

Well, its been a slice,,, I have things to do, people to see. Sane people, good people, in fact I am off to help in the taping of our town's christmas parade
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Sure... I will admit that there are quite a few people on Naudet's video. Is it ONLY Naudet's video where hey are to be found though what with the deep suspicions that the Naudets are Shills.

And of course I am VERY interested in how the Naudet brothers got so far apart so quickly. They were speaking -in French- seconds before. So BOTH Naudets got seperate shots of the second plane live ? What are the chances of that I wonder ?
 
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