The VFF Test is On!

Vision From Feeling:

You said what you sensed in the human body was:
VisionFromFeeling said:
... the quantum physical wavefunction description of the atom as a whole, involving all the qualities of the nucleus and the electron distribution, and also other related parameters such as temperature, pressure, motion, etc. ...
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VisionFromFeeling said:
I experience that what is vibrating is the substance that atoms are made of.
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What is this “substance that atoms are made of”? How do you know that is what you feel vibrating and not something else?

After you saw kidneys that weren't there, and missed kidneys that were there, do you still maintain you can see kidneys from the quantum electron probability distribution up?

I think either you have no understanding of chemistry and physics, or you must know that what you said about the quantum wave function, vibrations, scalars and gradients, etc. was a lie. You were just trying to fool people who didn't know about these things. When you realized that these subjects were actually common knowledge, you stopped mentioning them.

If you maintain you are able to see the quantum wave functions of electrons, please answer the questions I asked in this post, which you never answered. Since you said I didn't know what I was talking about, you should be able to easily answer these questions and set me straight.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5326550&postcount=434
 
Anita, you appear to be completely losing it. I suggest you retire from the Boards for a while, and reflect on the test that you actually took, which was quite specific to the power you claimed to have.

You said you were going to take a break from here, so please do so.

You are clutching at straws, and every time you post you are looking, to the general readers, more foolish and irrational.

For your own health, please just go away for a little while, and not try to keep defending a position which was viewed by all of us, as a failed test.

Reflect on what happened - you are getting worse by the hour, and you did say, several pages back, that you would leave.

Norm
 
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Farencue said:
What kind of skeptic am I Anita?
Oooh, I'm with Jeff Corey. We are very bad skeptics indeed.

The problem is with you Anita - you just can't see how good Brent is. She really, really can see people's organs. And, she has never been incorrect one single time!

I'm excited.
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Then why don't I open up shop? You all think I am going to do that anyway?
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
Would your cold reading skill have told you that someone is missing a left kidney, when you know nothing in advance of the person? When there are thousands of different types of health information that could apply? And when your best attempts at logic and cold reading are telling you that he couldn't possibly be missing a kidney? I'm just trying to explain this.
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Well I could say for sure most of them left with bruised kidneys, but that a whole other topic.

Anyhoo, you're a hoot. Good luck with your "investigation", but more importantly with your studies! Fourier analysis sucks, as do waves equations. Good Luck.
 
bookitty said:
Oh dear. You just can't stop, can you.

You have stated repeatably that your medical perceptions are spontaneous, automatic and instantaneous. By your own definition, it would have been impossible for you to miss the other medical issues.

It is this lying and intellectual dishonesty that disappoints me. I really do think you are capable of being bigger than this mess.
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How rude of you. You can not assume that any of those other health problems would show up on their own, while I am concentrating on kidneys. Bring me persons and ask me to do a head-to-toe reading and then if I fail to detect your laundry list of things, then can you criticize me of that. Silly.
 
bookitty said:
Perhaps it has slipped your mind, but you failed to find those kidneys as well.
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Oh dear.

Bookitty, thanks to your friend for volunteering for the test.
Did he find Anita's presence really annoying? Like the constant shifting of the chairs, the fervent watch checking? Was she sighing or muttering to herself or anything that would have made it harder to sit still?
I'm pretty sure I would have turned around and said "WTF is with the chair moving?"
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
Then why don't I open up shop? You all think I am going to do that anyway?
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Whatever you decide to do is your choice. Please don't try to justify your actions by pointing to the opinion of strangers in an anonymous chatroom. If you decide to set up shop and rip people off, it has nothing to do with what was said here.
 
I still find it interesting that I knew Dr. Carlson is missing a left kidney, and that I knew the accuracy of my answers beforehand. So I will have another test. And that is all I have got to say about that.
 
Moochie said:
Anita will keep designing protocols and "testing" until she hits the "right" combination of protocol and test that will render her a "winner." This shouldn't be a problem, as she will be handling the entire event, from protocol design through to test subjects through to actual test herself. She can't fail.


M.
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It would be absolutely ridiculous if Anita handled the entire event. Without independent verification that proves it's essentially a guessing/statistics game at worst, I wouldn't bother to acknowledge that a test took place. It isn't a test when you surreptitiously have the answers.
 
Farencue said:
Oh dear.

Bookitty, thanks to your friend for volunteering for the test.
Did he find Anita's presence really annoying? Like the constant shifting of the chairs, the fervent watch checking? Was she sighing or muttering to herself or anything that would have made it harder to sit still?
I'm pretty sure I would have turned around and said "WTF is with the chair moving?"
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Like most of us, he sort of dozed off. (27 minutes is a loooong time to sit still) It was a little tough because of the leg brace, he was a bit off-balance but other than that just fine. Getting a sonogram in front of a live audience was a bit disconcerting, though.
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
It took me forever to see through subject 12 in trial 1 and in trial 3 I was exhausted. I detected Dr. Carlson missing a kidney. And I knew the accuracy of each trial beforehand. Being interested in having another test is, in my opinion, not a mental illness. It is just curiosity.

All it is, is I feel kidneys when I look at people, and I know the accuracy beforehand.

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So, if you always know the accuracy of your "vision", I don't understand why you were reluctant to mention the missing kidney in Dr. Carlson's case.
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bookitty said:
Like most of us, he sort of dozed off. (27 minutes is a loooong time to sit still) It was a little tough because of the leg brace, he was a bit off-balance but other than that just fine. Getting a sonogram in front of a live audience was a bit disconcerting, though.
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THANKYOU friend of Bookitty for your part in debunking Anita Ikonen.
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
I still find it interesting that I knew Dr. Carlson is missing a left kidney, and that I knew the accuracy of my answers beforehand. So I will have another test. And that is all I have got to say about that.
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Because you do not have a god-damned-clue as to what a false memory actually is. And now you are mentally starting a second set of false memories, by claiming things from the test that never actually happened.

Norm
 
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