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Danny Jowenko - Manipulated by 9/11 Deniers

triforcharity said:
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Saying that FDNY had to bring down 1&2, is accusing them of the murder of ~3000 people, including 343 of their own.

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I suggest that people listen to he lady in the video saying that the FDNY told her directly that they were going to bring WTC7 down. Nothing to do with me Tri.
 
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Right, Because people are never wrong.

People will often hear one thing, then think they heard something else, especially when there is extreme stress involved.


PS, I was there. We didn't bring down any of the WTC towers. Neither did any bombs, silent explosives, or unicorns. Mothra, maybe, but......
 
bill smith said:
I suggest that people listen to he lady in the video saying that the FDNY told her directly that they were going to bring WTC7 down. Nothing to do with me Tri.
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Is this not your verbage?
Hey Scott.Did you know that the fire dept. had actually told people directly that they were going to bring the building down ? (WTC7) You can't really be nuch clearer than that . And if they brought WTC7 down then they certainly brought the Twin Towers down and then all of 9/11 was an inside job. Listen to the end of this short video for the proof.
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triforcharity said:
Right, Because people are never wrong.

People will often hear one thing, then think they heard something else, especially when there is extreme stress involved.


PS, I was there. We didn't bring down any of the WTC towers. Neither did any bombs, silent explosives, or unicorns. Mothra, maybe, but......
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You are not always accurate in what you say Tri. Remember the joining-the-FDNY-at-15 fiasco ? I have a file on it somewhere.
 
he clearly believes that the FDNY had some part in the demolition of WTC 1,2, and 7. this at the very least, implicates the top leadership of the FDNY..and perhaps also the NYPD.

disgusting.
 
Please also post where I informed you that my DOB is not my true DOB. The day is correct, but the year is incorrect.

Point to something that I got wrong, that I maintained that I was correct, even after it being pointed out that I was wrong. You cannot do it. Ever.
 
triforcharity said:
Please also post where I informed you that my DOB is not my true DOB. The day is correct, but the year is incorrect.

Point to something that I got wrong, that I maintained that I was correct, even after it being pointed out that I was wrong. You cannot do it. Ever.
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Relax Tri...I probably won't expose you.
 
bardamu said:
As Europe's top demolition expert has confirmed, loud noises and flashes are only secondary features of a standard controlled demolition. ...<snip>
OK, it's a deal. WTC 7 was demolished but the Twin Towers weren't. Now let's take it from there. Who demolished WTC 7?
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Oh, I thought you knew –

According to Truther Kevin “No One Remembers Me Doing Heroic Things For Days At Ground Zero First Responder” McPadden, WTC7 was CD’d by United States’ top demolition company, the American Red Cross.

“We started asking questions, everybody started asking questions, and the next thing you know there was a Red Cross representative pacing back and forth in front of the crowd holding his hand over the radio – I couldn’t hear what it was saying but it was like pulsed – whatever the speech was on there it was pulsed – and that means to me most likely it was a countdown.”
“But he took his hand off at the last three seconds and he gave this heartfelt look – like just run for your life – because he didn’t want to bring it on his conscience – he didn’t want to go to his grave with that – and then we had a couple of seconds to put our heads together.”

The Prison Planet article also says:
In a taped interview with us after the event, McPadden made it clear that he and onlookers clearly heard “three, two, one” from the radio before the building collapsed.
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-Just like in the Standard Surreptitious Controlled Demolition Movies Where There’s A Countdown Before Crowds Of Strangers Otherwise the Explosives Won’t Blow Up.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/130907_demolition_countdown.htm
 
parky76 said:
clearly, WTC 7 was demolished by the Mossad, the FDNY, and the Fed.
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The Mossad took pictures of the burning building, the FDNY provided the funds for the operation, the FED installed the bombs, and everything was planned by Larry and organized by the American Red Cross.
 
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triforcharity said:
Please also post where I informed you that my DOB is not my true DOB. The day is correct, but the year is incorrect.

Point to something that I got wrong, that I maintained that I was correct, even after it being pointed out that I was wrong. You cannot do it. Ever.
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Easy there, tri. Everybody makes mistakes - especially once you hit your mid-30s and all the years start running together.

For example - at first, you had 6 years experience with FDNY, but later on you remembered that it was actually 10 years. It's all part of getting older.
 
bill smith said:
Listen to the end of this short video for the proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0
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In the interview with Zembla, at one point Jowenko speculated on the reason why WTC7 was supposedly imploded in a controlled demolition. After hearing about the fact that it had suffered substantial fire damage, he guessed that WTC7 had to be brought down because the fire would damage the steel which could perhaps not be repaired for less than rebuilding the entire structure. This means two things:
  1. He knew that fire was a known risk for steel buildings. Therefore the whole argument of "who could have imagined a steel building could collapse by fire?" is sufficiently answered. Jowenko could imagine it, and so could anyone else with an understanding of the risks for steel structures.
  2. Since Jowenko is an expert, his thinking may be similar to the experts on the ground at the time. It is perfectly reasonable to assume they too were thinking -- and saying -- "if that thing doesn't come down on its own, we may have to bring it down." That does not make it suspicious the thing came down on its own, and it also doesn't make it suspicious that the authorities were evacuating people from the area in case it would come down on its own, nor that in the confusion of the day some media misheard rumours of an expected building collapse and thought it had already happened.
Your video therefore doesn't show anything that requires a conspiracy.
 
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Yes, you are correct. People do make mistakes. But, typically, people don't make mistakes that involve accusing the FDNY of killing ~3000 people, including 343 of their own.
 
um.....this was no mistake. his video clearly accuses the FDNY of complicity in the demise of WTC 7.
 
Earthborn said:
He knew that fire was a known risk for steel buildings. Therefore the whole argument of "who could have imagined a steel building could collapse by fire?" is sufficiently answered. Jowenko could imagine it, and so could anyone else with an understanding of the risks for steel structures.
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No, Jowenko theorized that it might cost more to repair the building than it would to simply rebuild it, which is an acknowledgment that fire can damage steel. A "repair" would not be possible if in the event of a full collapse.
 
A repair wasn't even feasible for WTC 5 or 6. WTC 7 plain collapsed. That's beside the point however, every person involved in the construction of a steel structure knows there is always a risk that it may collapse in full or partially. Building codes drive design, and designers [usually] adhere them as required by law. Even those that conform to code aren't immune however; especially if it concerns unforeseen circumstances which would interrupt a properly designed system.

Regardless of what he believes happened to 7 deep, I can assure you that he most likely is aware that with fire, damage isn't his sole concern or acknowledgment
 
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