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Liberals Obsessed With Conservatives?

Upchurch said:
What it proves is that this forum is obsessed with countering woo and misinformation. The "War on Christmas" has nothing to do with left/right politics.
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I wouldn't say that. It is a tactic of some concervatives to obsess about how liberals are trying to destroy their lives. It broadly falls into the american christian idea that they are being discriminated against if they do not get special treatment.
 
Its like, the perfect example that illustrates the culture war.

Its like, Culture War: Exhibit A.
 
Praktik said:
Its like, the perfect example that illustrates the culture war.

Its like, Culture War: Exhibit A.
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I thought it was such a perfect example, I never expected someone would take it seriously when they were trying to come of as nonpartisan.
 
ponderingturtle said:
I wouldn't say that. It is a tactic of some concervatives to obsess about how liberals are trying to destroy their lives.
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Well, that might be true for the folks like Eyeron who buy into that garbage, but I don't believe that's true of folks like O'Reilly who construct it. For them, it's about driving views.
 
What it proves is that this forum is obsessed with countering woo and misinformation. The "War on Christmas" has nothing to do with left/right politics.
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Ridicule and personal attacks on people does not counter woo nor does it change hearts and win minds. It only entrenches people and people only become more determined to keep to their beliefs.
 
'War on Christmas" = "NWO GLOBAL TAKEOVER"

seriously, the wooishness is pretty similar IMO:

1. Both believe that American society is in the middle of a steep decline.
2. This decline has been planned for and put in motion by an identifiable group ("liberals and atheists"/"banksters")
3. This sinister network has its hands in our schools, the media, the government: it literally controls all aspects of life in America in order to make their ends become reality ("liberal utopia"/"one world government").
4. Both place the believers of these theories in the role of victim ("oppressed christians"/"oppressed free thinkers whose ideas are constantly marginalized")
5. Both also place the believers of these theories in an additional role, that of Paul Revere, heroically warning the rest of us about these nefarious aims of the malevolent network At the Root of it All.
 
Eyeron said:
Ridicule and personal attacks on people does not counter woo nor does it change hearts and win minds.
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No, of course not. It also does not mean that ridicule and loss of credibility is not deserved.

Eyeron said:
It only entrenches people and people only become more determined to keep to their beliefs.
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Are you more determined to keep your beliefs, regardless of the (lack of) evidence that liberals are conducting a War On ChristmasTM?
 
Well I have no other choice in the matter do I? I must believe what everybody tells me to believe, or I will be ridiculed because I do not believe what anybody else believes and because I do not believe what anybody else believes I deserve to be ridiculed. It's all about what you want to hear, not what I believe. So of course I will tell you what you want to hear. Nothing else matters, after all.
 
Eyeron said:
Well I have no other choice in the matter do I? I must believe what everybody tells me to believe, or I will be ridiculed because I do not believe what anybody else believes and because I do not believe what anybody else believes I deserve to be ridiculed. It's all about what you want to hear, not what I believe. So of course I will tell you what you want to hear. Nothing else matters, after all.
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Let's rephrase the question. You are here on a board dedicated to skepticism. Do you take your assertion in a liberal-caused War On Christmas on faith or based on some sort of evidence? If the latter, what evidence supports your assertion?
 
Eyeron said:
I must believe what everybody tells me to believe, or I will be ridiculed because I do not believe what anybody else believes and because I do not believe what anybody else believes I deserve to be ridiculed.
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Actually, we only ridicule such of your beliefs as we find ridiculous.
 
Let's rephrase the question.
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The WoC is actually a derail of my initial question, with which again you people got all kinds of upset at the way I phrased it and ridiculed me. And started making all kinds of wrongful statements.

As far as your question goes, because you people started ridiculing me for no other reason than because of the way I phrased my initial post, you gave me leave to start poking fun back and not taking things seriously anymore. It showed me you were just not interested in my question and were not going to give me any kind of serious responses so it gave me leave to do the same thing. Why should I bother with being serious if all people are going to do is ridicule me and make wrongful statements when in the first place I was trying to be serious with my initial questions. If this is the only thing I can expect from you people then I really don't give a damn anymore.
 
Upchurch said:
Well, that might be true for the folks like Eyeron who buy into that garbage, but I don't believe that's true of folks like O'Reilly who construct it. For them, it's about driving views.
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Well this is really just the question of is O'Reilly crazy enough to believe what he is saying. I am not so sure that he isn't.
 
Eyeron said:
The WoC is actually a derail of my initial question, with which again you people got all kinds of upset at the way I phrased it and ridiculed me. And started making all kinds of wrongful statements.
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Not it isn't. It shows conservatives obsessed with a fictional liberal enemy. There is no war on christmas, for starters there is no movement to make it so that christmas is not the only religious holiday that is also a national holiday, rather a remarkable thing when you think about the seperation of church and state.

If there was a Liberal War On Christmas that would be one of the first things to be attacked. What it really is, is that christians are not the totaly dominant majority that they had been and religious minorities are pushing back against the assumption that everyone is christian.

This is on topic and shows the extent that your own bias prevents you seeing in conservative the same behavior you are decrying in liberals.
 
ponderingturtle said:
There is no war on christmas, for starters there is no movement to make it so that christmas is not the only religious holiday that is also a national holiday, rather a remarkable thing when you think about the seperation of church and state.
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Eh. Christmas isn't necessarily religious. But you do raise a point.
 
Seriously, did noone except Cleon read the wiki link Eyeron gave? He's either the biggest idiot on these boards, a brilliant troll or a good satirist.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
Seriously, did noone except Cleon read the wiki link Eyeron gave? He's either the biggest idiot on these boards, a brilliant troll or a good satirist.
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No, I read it. It is very funny. Just don't have anything to add based on it.
 
I thought "satire" immediately upon seeing Colbert at the very top. Read a couple of paragraphs - enough to confirm the initial impression. Then I was left with only one question. Was Eyeron pulling our legs and having a good laugh at us lapdogs? Did he just pull the link, not read it, and expect we'd miss it? Or did he really believe that was a straight up site?

I really don't know. So, Eyeron, which is it?
 
So, Eyeron, which is it?
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When I made my first post I was not pulling anybody's legs.

Then as you people went on ridiculing me for the way I made my first post, I said to hell with it and went with the flow and started having fun back right at you.

After all, if it's okay to ridicule me for no reason then it should be okay for be to give back in my own way.
 
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