9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[Thunder]

I am utterly confident that 9-11 Investigator is fully aware of the reality of the Holocaust.

 

[Skeptic]

Goebbels' diary:

Himmler's diary:


2 contemporaneous diary entries, relating to what Hitler said about the Jewish Question. Why, it's almost like Goebbels and Himmler both heard Hitler say the same thing.

Comments?

The diary entries are fake. Like everything else.

 

[Skeptic]

I think this is the best way to deal with 9/11 investigator (watch to the end -- it's crucial).

 

[Simon39759]

Not impressed, I didn't find the stunt very funny or illuminating. If anything; I find it disrespectful and trivializing...

 

[TSR]

Tenths of thousands died in the camps.

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Your source for this?

Or did you mean "tens of thousands, and more tens, and more, and more, and ... ?"

I mean, even the Auchwitz deathbooks record hundreds of thousands of deaths -- and that's *one* camp, for which the records are incomplete (not to mention that they only cover registered inmates, and not those killed on arrival.)


Maybe you should get Krege to write another non-existent "report" which proves that aren't any actual traces of the death books ?
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[TSR]

The diary entries are fake.

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Now, now: you know very well the diaries aren't.

It's Goebbels and Himmler which are fake.
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[Skeptic]

Not impressed, I didn't find the stunt very funny or illuminating. If anything; I find it disrespectful and trivializing...

Yes, but not towards the holocaust -- towards Irving, who has it coming.

 

[Skeptic]

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Now, now: you know very well the diaries aren't.

It's Goebbels and Himmler which are fake.
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Ah, yes, of course. We usually see them in movies made by the allies, don't we?

 

[dtugg]

I am utterly confident that 9-11 Investigator is fully aware of the reality of the Holocaust.

Me too. He knows it happened. His purpose is to whitewash his Nazi heroes and make the Jews the perpetrators of the greatest hoax of all time.

 

[TSR]

Ah, yes, of course. We usually see them in movies made by the allies, don't we?

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We never see either of them and Norman Shelley in the same room at the same time.

I'm just sayin'...
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[Simon39759]

Yes, but not towards the holocaust -- towards Irving, who has it coming.

No, toward the Holocaust victims, of course, I couldn't care less about people insulting Irving. I mean, I care, but only if their are not insulting enough toward the puss filled-a**hole.

 

[Skeptic]

I don't think it's trivializing. I think it gives Irving a taste of exactly WHAT he is denying ever happened.

 

[Simon39759]

Not really as I don't think Irving believed for even a second that John Safran was really going to murder him.

It really is my personal opinion and it's entirely subjective but I felt the stunt tactless and disrespectful regarding the person that actually were murdered.
I would have rather Safran to let Irving talk and reveals himself as the hate-filled shallow moron he is.

 

[Chaos]

Not really as I don't think Irving believed for even a second that John Safran was really going to murder him.

It really is my personal opinion and it's entirely subjective but I felt the stunt tactless and disrespectful regarding the person that actually were murdered.
I would have rather Safran to let Irving talk and reveals himself as the hate-filled shallow moron he is.

But no matter how hate-filled, shallow or moronic the garbage he spouts is, other hate-filled shallow morons of lesser sophistication will pop up in droves and declare that their favorite hate-filled shallow moron "scholar" totally owned that other guy. I, for one, don´t need one more instance of that.

 

[Simon39759]

Then, let's not interview the man and let him starve in the obscurity his mediocre pettiness so richly deserve.

It's not like the prank is going to sway the morons you describe, if anything, it will seem to them that Safran did not have an answer to Irving's lies...

 

[Thunder]

please let this thread die.

 

[dafydd]

I agree.

 

[9/11-investigator]

please let this thread die.

After dudalb, parky76 is the second one who is showing signs of immanent 'folding'. They both realize their case is hopeless.

Meanwhile I have spent a full day and a half now making a summary of the 3000 posts in this thread and a list of the many topics that where not addressed so far. I'm now in post 1400, resulting in a Word document of 250 pages, after filtering all the garbage and name calling out resulting in a much better overview of the results so far. Another advantage will be that I will be able to find a post or link back much faster and reliable than with google.

I'll be back later.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I think this is the best way to deal with 9/11 investigator (watch to the end -- it's crucial).

Skeptic doesn't say it openly but he suggests that killing me is the best way to 'deal with me', just like in the good ol' days of communism, where his ilk practised that method on a daily basis, by the millions. But most people don't realize that because the Spielbergs of this world prefer making phantasy movies about the Nazis.

But that is over now since the advent of the internet. I highly recommend watching the movie 'the soviet story', subsidized by a conservative group within the European Parliament. Google pulled the movie (no surprises here) but the movie can be viewed from a ukrainian site (no english):

http://io.ua/ve324617c53348f1f1e7591c80dc8a589

And it were these criminals and mass murderers who spoke 'justice' in Nuremberg. Watch the movie and your world view will never be the same.

And who opposes the equation of Nazism and Bolshevism? You guessed it: the Wiesenthal Center. Don't touch our precious communism! Says the WC:

"The Simon Wiesenthal Center today blasted the current campaign conducted by the Baltic countries of Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia to grant Communist crimes equal recognition to the crimes of the Holocaust . In an op-ed article featured in the Israeli English-language daily Jerusalem Post, the Center’s Israel director Holocaust historian Dr. Efraim Zuroff severely criticized the recently-intensified campaign by the Baltic republics and other post-Communist governments to mark August 23 as a joint remembrance day for the victims of Nazism and Communism, and to establish an “Institute of European Memory and Conscience” as a museum, research and educational center on totalitarian crimes in order to “reunite [European] history [and] recognize communism and Nazism as a common legacy.”"

The movie is currently being used by the Baltic countries to set the record straight regarding the history of WW2. But for once I partially agree with the WC albeit for a different reason, namely that it is ridiculous to equate Nazism and Communism; the latter was far more murderous than the first.

Skeptic doesn't like opposition and in a moment of irritation he lost his temper and reveals his true nature.

Thanks Skeptic for this unexpected gift. Priceless.

P.S. watch this tough American recognizing the danger the US is in.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Goebbels' diary:
Originally Posted by Joseph Goebbels - December 12, 1941
Bezüglich der Judenfrage ist der Führer entschlossen, reinen Tisch zu machen. Er hat den Juden prophezeit, daß, wenn sie noch einmal einen Weltkrieg herbeiführen würden, sie dabei ihre Vernichtung erleben würden. Das ist keine Phrase gewesen. Der Weltkrieg ist da, die Vernichtung des Judentums muß die notwendige Folge sein.

With respect of the Jewish Question, the Führer has decided to make a clean sweep. He prophesied to the Jews that if they again brought about a world war, they would live to see their annihilation in it. That wasn't just a catch-word. The world war is here, and the annihilation of the Jews must be the necessary consequence.
Himmler's diary:

Originally Posted by Heinrich Himmler - December 18, 1941
Judenfrage / als Partisanen auszurotten

Jewish Question / to be exterminated like the partisans
2 contemporaneous diary entries, relating to what Hitler said about the Jewish Question. Why, it's almost like Goebbels and Himmler both heard Hitler say the same thing.

Comments?

- regarding the first quote: it is a threat spoken in public. Chrustchev once openly threatened that the SU would bury the West. Nothing happened. Saying is one thing, doing so another.
- regarding the second quote: do you understand what a partisan is? You probably think a Democrats or Republicans voter. Let me enlighten you: a partisan in this context is someone who tries to kill Germans. Nobody denies the ruthless operations of the Einsatzgruppen.

But in contrast of your quotes from 1941 I have another one, Goebbels's diary entry for 30 May 1942:

"5.182... Therefore the Fuhrer does also not wish at all for the Jews to be evacuated to Siberia. There, under the harshest living conditions, they would undoubtedly for an element of vitality once more. His preferred solution would be to settle them in central Africa. There they live in a climate which would surely not render them strong and capable of resistance. In any case it is the Fuhrer's wish to make west Europe completely Jew-free. Here they will not be allowed to have any home anymore".

http://www.hdot.org/en/trial/judgement/05.014.3

I hope that you are aware that it was Hitler who was in charge, not Himmler or Goebbels.

This is end may 1942. Another clear indication that no extermination of civilians was going on at least as long as the Germans were winning and that was until early 1943. Hitler wanted to remove the Jews from Western Europe, hence the transportations to Eastern Europe where they could support the war effort as forced labourers. In another independent communication (with Lammers) Hitler had already said a month earlier that he wanted to solve the 'Jewish Problem' after the war.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Himmler/Schlegelberger/DocItself0342.html
(April 1942).

And that makes perfect sense if you want to ship the Jews to Central Africa. You can only do that after you won.

And this is proof that the Wannsee protokol was exactly that: a deportations and forced labourers program and nothing else.