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Hardfire: Szamboti / Chandler / Mackey

If I was Brent Blanchard I'd be asking you: "What are your credentiuals for Controlled Demolition?"

Your response would be...........

...........exactly what I figured your response would be.

Absolutely NOTHING!

Next time Tony, get your credentials for Controlled Demolition. Because next time you say that thermite or explosives were used on 9/11, it'll be your career that'll be in jeapordy. Not anyone elses!
 
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Here is mine...although none of it related to 9/11 issues....

Military:
8 years in the Army Reserves specializing in Communications....deployed from 2004-2005 during OIF2. Left the service in 2006.

Civilian:
Bachelors of Science in Electrical Engineering.
Almost 7 years of experience.

Areas of focus:Electronic Warfare (EW) and Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) systems and sensors.

Role: Testing and Evaluation during field and lab testing.

Other areas: Directed energy weapons (DEW).

Thats the shortest and most general description I can give ya...

***Edited to add: Nevermind...it looks like you already got what you needed....***

Yes, thanks anyway though. Much appreciated.

It was to no avail, since the minute I gave a few credentials out, the goalpost was moved to only include people who use their own names, and then they got really ugly.
A civil debate is not possible in that realm. I won't bother mentioning where it was, don't want to dignify them.
 
Yes, thanks anyway though. Much appreciated.

It was to no avail, since the minute I gave a few credentials out, the goalpost was moved to only include people who use their own names, and then they got really ugly.
A civil debate is not possible in that realm. I won't bother mentioning where it was, don't want to dignify them.
BSME, Registered Professional Engineer
40+ years dynamic and static analysis and testing on structures from Automobiles to buses to aircraft (F-111, F-16, T-38, F-35, and G650) to payloads for STS (including External Tank) to T-3 and T-34D rockets...
 
You'll note I'm not in the "Credentials" thread. No point. I don't argue from authority. Even so, there are a few idiots around who sporadically accuse me of it anyway. You just can't win with the Truthers.

Anyway, we're getting off-topic again.

Third show is coming. Gary needed a fresh copy of Tony's collapse video, but he informs me it should be done by the weekend. Also the second show's subtitles are finished in case you couldn't hear what I was saying.
 
NB, as shown by the Kobe ,Japan earthquake both concrete and steel buildings had the same failure rate, so one material was no more inherently weak, when both materials design account for the same forces. Detailed right, both materials can compensate for lost columns.

As I understand it both the concrete Murrah building and the steel WTC7 suffered an initial column failure (one by explosion, one by heat) under transfer beams/girders . So the WTC7 loss of one steel column did not prevent global collapse. Perhaps the lesson here is that transfer beams should not be used in buildings subject to potentially abnormal loads, not what material to use. Embassies choose poured-in-place concrete for blast resistance and thereby survival from collapse.

The main point I want to make is that the steel Towers were not of typical design and were weak to fire and non-redundant in its vulnerable long span non-columned lightweight floor truss design.
(Not that I would have done anything differently.)

For steel buildings either the fire goes out before the building collapses or the building collapses before the fire goes out.
The plane damage and the fires fully explain the gravity-only collapse of the Towers.

I'll reiterate my statement I made to 3bodyproblem:

Steel structures have an inherent resistance to progressive collapse due to the inherent nature of steel to resist both compressive and tensile forces. Reinforced concrete structures, on the other hand, need to be specifically detailed to do so.

I'll not address the ignorance and logic fallacies of the rest of your post out of respect for R.Mackey's frequently off-topic threads.
 
You'll note I'm not in the "Credentials" thread. No point. I don't argue from authority. Even so, there are a few idiots around who sporadically accuse me of it anyway. You just can't win with the Truthers.

Anyway, we're getting off-topic again.

Third show is coming. Gary needed a fresh copy of Tony's collapse video, but he informs me it should be done by the weekend. Also the second show's subtitles are finished in case you couldn't hear what I was saying.

You'd be delighted to know that there was complete denial that you have any physics expertise. That's because on your resume it doesn't explicitly say so.
Once again, truthers fail.

Apologies for the OT.
 
On my resume, it does explicitly say so. Same with my CV. You can also gather that from my publications... but, whatever. I don't care enough to find out what rag or snippet or quote-mined talk announcement they're actually looking at.

Incidentally, if you haven't used it before, you turn on the captioning on YouTube with the little "up arrow" down at about 4 o'clock in the frame. Looks like a white triangle in a box. Mouse over that, then select "CC" for Closed Captioning, and you should get a pop-up menu for English. Only my remarks are captioned though I worked up a transcript for all three of us. Hope that helps.
 
That's a bug, not a feature. Your argument is akin to saying windows has an added safety feature against hackers because it crashes so frequently and isn't connected to the internet while it reboots.

I am not attempting to argue that brittle behavior should be designed in to a system to make it resistant to progressive collapse, that's obviously crazy.

On the other hand, when you are talking about structures that are not designed for progressive collapse, there is no benefit to load redistribution or ductility if the members you are redistributing to will just fail with the new loads and geometry.

In WTC 7, failure of 1 column meant the whole building was lost. For L'Ambiance plaza, a failure in the east tower also brought down the connected west tower.

If collapsing members had broken off before delivering their loads to the undamaged portions of these structures, it is more likely that these portions could have survived.

Again, I am not claiming this behavior is ideal or even good, just better than losing the whole structure.
 
I'm not sure if this is true to the Murah building. The blast accelerated debris, then left an alternate path for the debris to collapse onto (compared to the towrers). In terms of Tony's favourite mass participation, the Murrah had very little. There is a distinct pattern in the building remains that suggests the blast caused the observed collapsed areas, and not falling debris. I think there are different mechanisms at work in the Murrah bulding.

If i remember correctly murrah only completely lost 2 or 3 columns at the base.
 
On my resume, it does explicitly say so. Same with my CV. You can also gather that from my publications... but, whatever. I don't care enough to find out what rag or snippet or quote-mined talk announcement they're actually looking at.

Thx.
I stand corrected. The bio that I've seen obviously isn't your resume.

I also see this topic has been discussed recently in this thread, in this post.
 
If i remember correctly murrah only completely lost 2 or 3 columns at the base.

Me too. Just rewatched a bit of 'Rebuilding on ground zero' recently, where they looked at the Murrah bldg. It was at least 2 or 3 columns.
 
It was to no avail, since the minute I gave a few credentials out, the goalpost was moved to only include people who use their own names, and then they got really ugly.

Doctorate in physics, over 20 years experience in industry, I've changed the occasional tyre, and this is my real name. And they were probably fairly ugly to start with.

Dave
 
Doctorate in physics, over 20 years experience in industry, I've changed the occasional tyre, and this is my real name. And they were probably fairly ugly to start with.

Dave

Sheesh...so many people here with 15+ years of experience....

It's like I'm back at the office....

With my 7 years (almost 7) I'm what tfk referred to as a "baby engineer"....
 
Doctorate in physics, over 20 years experience in industry, I've changed the occasional tyre, and this is my real name. And they were probably fairly ugly to start with.

Dave

I've got $50 that says Dave uses the "Right Hand Rule", instead of "Lefty-Loosy Righty-Tighty". :D

Another $50 that says he considers the length of the tyre iron as a moment arm, and tries to apply uniform force at varying distances along the length of the iron in order to gauge the amount of torque applied to the lug nuts. At the very least the thought crosses his mind. :)

(My apologies to Ryan, I'm probably the biggest offender at derailing since the departure of Heiwa. Sorry.)
 
I've got $50 that says Dave uses the "Right Hand Rule", instead of "Lefty-Loosy Righty-Tighty". :D

Sorry, you lose $50. I use the "I'm not dyslexic so I know which way to turn the thing" rule.

Another $50 that says he considers the length of the tyre iron as a moment arm, and tries to apply uniform force at varying distances along the length of the iron in order to gauge the amount of torque applied to the lug nuts. At the very least the thought crosses his mind. :)

I find that jumping on the crossbar is an effective way of loosening nuts that have been put on at the garage with power tools; that's why I have an intuitive understanding of load amplification effects. For tightening, I usually just stand on it; less torque, but experience tells me they stay done up, and it's a pretty reliable way of always applying the same torque every time.

Which, if you think about it, is a means of applying uniform force at varying distances etc. So I do more than consider it.

(My apologies to Ryan, I'm probably the biggest offender at derailing since the departure of Heiwa. Sorry.)

Them's fightin' words, pardner.

Dave
 
Sorry, you lose $50. I use the "I'm not dyslexic so I know which way to turn the thing" rule.



I find that jumping on the crossbar is an effective way of loosening nuts that have been put on at the garage with power tools; that's why I have an intuitive understanding of load amplification effects. For tightening, I usually just stand on it; less torque, but experience tells me they stay done up, and it's a pretty reliable way of always applying the same torque every time.

Which, if you think about it, is a means of applying uniform force at varying distances etc. So I do more than consider it.



Them's fightin' words, pardner.

Dave
Mechanic tips from Justin:
I wouldn't jump.
When I have lugs that are too tight I use a breaker bar (get a piece of pipe) stand on it carefully and bounce a lil while supporting yourself on the car. This should work too if you only have the 4 way. Jumping (airborn lol) could be tragic if your wrench slips off the nut. Smaller stubborn nuts and bolts - use the palm of your hand to smack your wrench to get it loose (sharp impacts are better), don't try to turn it forcibly, you'll most likely strip a stubborn fastener.
Remember to use a criss-cross pattern to tighten your lugs. Don't go in a circle.
Also remember if you have aluminum rims they have to be torqued properly. (usually 150 ftlbs or so)
:D

I'll win the 50 by throwing in reverse thread lugs.
 
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I find that jumping on the crossbar is an effective way of loosening nuts that have been put on at the garage with power tools

It is very important to do this before the wheels are raised off the ground.:D
 
I am talking from experience. :o

ROFL

Then I truly am very sorry to hear that....

Very few posts on debate forums strike me as funny enough to make me do more than smile...but that last post made me laugh....

I can only imagine how enlightening that experience was LOL :)
 

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