Óðinn, regardless of what we think about Patty or Bigfoot, I will feel the sky is clearing up to have a conversation with you any day. Please work some voodoo and tell me why these all are wrong..
"Wrong" is a relative term. But I can tell you why they don't prove anything in the context you are using them.
(unfortunately I had to repost these images since the quote function doesn't seem to display them, just their urls.)
Ok, here we go...
This composite is from the GIF I created where I corrected the aspect of Patty and McClarin and matched the background. The problem here is that for this to be a valid comparison you require the following:
1) same lenses
2) same camera positions
3) their respective trackways must match
4) same distances from the camera
Missing any 1 of these kills it. IMO, their trackways don't match up since in this comparison, their images are approx. the same size. By frame 352, McClarin is smaller, then by frame ~480 McClarin is larger than Patty. This would be impossibe if they followed the same trackway unless the camera positions were changing. Instead their images should be consistent the whole way. But they aren't. They also aren't the same distance from the camera. Which leads to the next comparison:
These images look like they were taken from my website, out of context. Before the lines were added, the images represented what McClarin would look like if he was 10% closer to the camera than he was. But this doesn't mean their distances have been synchronized w.r.t. the camera. This was just addressing Bill Munns suggestion that Green was standing approx. 10% farther back from Roger's position. So we don't know if they were scaled accurately to be able to make any comparisons. And all those "vertical" measurements will never do.
The Poser overlays I have covered previously. I'll repost the area of contention that IMO negates the fit.
Show me an overlay with Patty's correct body orientation, including the shoulders, THEN show me how the arms fit. It looks like the head and arms would be overscaled for the rest of the body to fit. It appears like the emphasis was placed on the arms and legs and head, and the torso just wouldn't cooperate. And if the arms and legs are foreshortened ANY amount, then you can ALWAYS make shorter CG limbs appear to fit.
Then there are the comparison overlays/horizontal lines connecting Bob H in the Morris suit to Patty. The problems being:
1) what are the camera specs?
2) horizontal lines don't measure the lengths of a body part (unless they are oriented exactly the same, or similarly foreshortened, which must be shown)
3) distances from the camera must be known to correctly scale their images
4) their body orientations must be the same (or similarly foreshortened, which must be shown)
5) their images must have the correct aspect ratios
Actually the only way to get around scaling their images without knowing any distances from the camera is to work backwards. For example, let's compare their arm lengths. In any scaling exercise we must assume that Bob H's and Patty's arms are similarly foreshortened. IMO, Bob H's arm in the Morris suit looks full length. As a matter of fact his image taken from that poster has been tampered with in many unknown ways. His aspect ratio is BS and he's been stretched horizontally to add some width to his image. This would add length to his arms. For this exercise, I've tried to correct his aspect by reducing the horiz aspect by 10%. It should be reduced more, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
So if we scale their arms to the same length then the rest of their bodies should match up in scale (same person right?). But since we are working backwards, the results of the scaling might not be intuitive. If we make their arms the same length and Patty's body is underscaled (smaller than Bob's), then it means Patty's arms are LONGER relative to her body than Bob's. Likewise, if Bob's body is underscaled (smaller than Patty's) then his arms must be longer than Patty's. If their bodies are the SAME size, then Bob fits in the suit. This is providing the bone joints were approximated correctly. Feel free to dispute them. They are only estimates.
So after locating the joints for Bob & Patty, I scaled the ARM vectors to the same length (the leg vectors were only used to approximate the hidden legs). Then how did their bodies compare?
I added (approximations) of their right legs to give you an idea of their heights/body sizes. Patty's body appears to be underscaled, which means her arms are LONGER relative to her body than Bob's are in the Morris suit. I don't think this is definitive, but merely a counter to the other comparisons using horizontal lines to scale the images.
But if you are going to compare humans/skeletons to Patty you MUST measure common body parts and scale them accordingly. Otherwise, they can't tell you anything.
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Halloween voodoo )
).....what I say in my posts....and twists it into 'inhuman'.
