Moderated Views on George Galloway.

[Tin Foil Timothy]

What's there to debunk? Galloway feels that Israelis knowing how to aim is a crime.

What he fails to realize is that Israel had the right to shoot back as soon as just ONE SINGLE ROCKET flew over the border.

If I have F-16s, Apache gunships and Merkava battle tanks, and you toss an explosive warhead in my direction, I'm gonna come over there and @#$% your *&%$ up... fair warning. So don't do it.

"But the UN says this, and the UN says that and the UN..." Screw the UN. They have no say in this and no credibility. When an organization knowingly and wilfully appoints a purveyor of anti-semitic conspiracy theories as it's chief Israel basher, everything they have to say on the topic becomes null and void.

I always laugh at the Zionists who love the UN when they back sanctions against Zionist enemies like Iraq and soon Iran. They love the UN when it passes resolutions for a partition plan that is the stepping stone of Zionist colonization of the Middle East.

But they Hate the UN when it rightly criticizes Israel for it's racist war crimes and various illegal occupations and colonizations of the West Bank

The Zionist Charter has at least four chapters:

1] Double Standards

2] Fantasy

3] Victim Mentality

4] Racial superiority

George Galloway is a politician that is brave enough to recognize this in a Zionist dominate playing field. he's pai the price by being marginalized in Western Politics.

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

No.

He ran away from his responsibilities to be a media whore on a show for low grade morons.

Any politician who abandons their constituents and their job MAKING OUR LAWS to dick around in a red leotard should be sacked.

He's worthless.

On the contrary he's worth a 100 times more than the ziono-neocon lackeys that normally stain the corridors of the British parliament. The UK wouldn't have been stupid enough to go along with the farcial invasion of Iraq had Galloway been Prime Minister

He's worth a billion of Blair and Bush

 

[Ziggurat]

Oh look, everyone, Tim hates Israel. And the sky is blue.

I am curious about what Tim thinks of the fact that Galloway tried to suggest that the Tiananmen Square massacre never happened. Perhaps there's a Zionist plot involved somehow...

 

[Marc39]

I always laugh at the Zionists who love the UN when they back sanctions against Zionist enemies like Iraq and soon Iran.

It's rare when the UN "backs sanctions against Zionist enemies"

The UN Human Rights Council, for instance, has issued more resolutions against Israel than the 191 members of the UN combined.

They love the UN when it passes resolutions for a partition plan that is the stepping stone of Zionist colonization of the Middle East.

That was, what, over half a century ago and the UN passed the same partition plan for Palestinian statehood, which they rejected.

As for Zionist colonizaton, that's the sort of xenophobic talk that one hears leveled against Asian and Mexican immigrants. Jewish immigrants to Palestine were not colonists.

I recommend you become knowledgeable about the history of colonialism.

But they Hate the UN when it rightly criticizes Israel for it's racist war crimes and various illegal occupations and colonizations of the West Bank

There is no illegal occupation.

I recommend you become knowledgeable about occupations.

The Zionist Charter has at least four chapters:

1] Double Standards

2] Fantasy

3] Victim Mentality

4] Racial superiority

George Galloway is a politician that is brave enough to recognize this in a Zionist dominate playing field. he's pai the price by being marginalized in Western Politics.

The Israeli Declaration of Independence clearly states the Zionist philosophy of equal rights for every Israeli citizen.

Indeed, Israel is the only country in the Middle East that fully respects freedom, human rights and civil liberties...

THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

 

[Marc39]

IDF terrorists shoot unarmed women and children when they are waving white flags.

The IDF blanketed Gaza with hundreds of thousands of leaflets alerting them to the impending military intervention and telephoned and texted hundreds of thousands of Gazans.

During the war, the IDF unilaterally halted fighting for 3 hours a day, while taking enemy fire, in order to allow for the administration of humanitarian aid.

Israeli hospitals accepted Palestinians, most of whom supported Hamas, their terrorist regime dedicated to Israel's destruction.

Such a level of humane conduct on the part of the IDF is otherwise considered unthinkable by military authorities.

Racist Israeli commanders order the dropping of white phosphorus on innocent civilians becuase they are of the wrong DNA

There is no reliable evidence bearing out your [baseless] allegation.. The use of white phosphorous is lawful and has been used since World War I. The US has used WP in Iraq.

 

[Marc39]

Being pro-Hamas is no worse than being pro-Israel.

In fact being pro-Hamas is really a lot better than being pro-Israel. Both sides have killed innocent civilians, but Hamas are trying to fight back against an aggressor whilst Israel is an aggressor.


George Galloway is a star. He completely demolished the idiots in the Senate who used neocon'esque lies to try and smear him.

It's not surprising he hot kicked out of Zionist funded Blair's British Labour Party as he always spoke out against the big lie of the WMDs as a pre-text to invade Iraq.

The problem is Hamas is complicit in the abduction of Palestinians supporting opposing political organizations and their torture and murder. Fratricide between Hamas and Fatah has resulted in several hundred deaths of Palestinians.

Hamas, a terrorist organization, as classified by the US State Department, is terrorizing their own population.

 

[Thunder]

Hamas, a terrorist organization, as classified by the US State Department, is terrorizing their own population.

Israel doesn't give a damn about the US State Department or what they have to say. The State Dept. considers the West Bank settlements to be completely illegal and a major obstacle to peace.

 

[Stout]

is blue.

<snip....> Galloway tried to suggest that the Tienanmen Square massacre never happened. Perhaps there's a Zionist plot involved somehow...

I did the Galloway thing over on another board when he was banned from entering Canada. I thought he was a self serving git back then, and this thread only reaffirms my opinion. I did not, however, know about the tiananmen square thing and I just spent an hour researching the history in photographs. For someone to claim that nobody died, not even the 241 people quoted by *official sources* is well, words escape me. Civil ones at least.

I also took it upon myself to ask why "the left" would support an organization like Hamas that would clearly take leftist ideology and crumple it into a small ball then crush it with their jackboots. The response I got was just this side of blind obedience because they're the democratically elected government of Palestine and reflect the wishes of the people.

 

[Marc39]

As I said, he supports them in humaitarian situations. This was just after well over 1000 people had been killed in gaza, over 400 children, thousands of houses destroyed, over 8000 casualties. The money was that donated by the british people to the Gaza charity appeal to help the wounded and suffering. And the best way to get the money to the people of a war torn state is to give it to the democratically elected govenment who can best help their people.

1,000 people killed in Gaza. 1 million people were killed in the Iran-Iraq war. 100,000 killed in Iraq. Several hundred thousand killed in the Algerian and Bangladesh civil wars.

Given Hamas's tactics of maximizing civilian casualties, of its own population, through booby trapping buildings, establishing military bases in populated areas, such as mosques, homes, schools and hospitals and fighting out of uniform, intentionally causing confusion between militants and civilians, it is Hamas that was to blame for those civilian casualties.

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

The UN Human Rights Council, for instance, has issued more resolutions against Israel than the 191 members of the UN combined.

Indeed and that's because the behavior of Israel has deserved that.

As for Zionist colonizaton, that's the sort of xenophobic talk that one hears leveled against Asian and Mexican immigrants. Jewish immigrants to Palestine were not colonists.

I recommend you become knowledgeable about the history of colonialism.

I recommend you admit the existence of Jewish Only, and thus racist, settlements in the illegally occupied West bank and East Jerusalem

There is no illegal occupation.

I recommend you become knowledgeable about occupations.

The Israeli Declaration of Independence clearly states the Zionist philosophy of equal rights for every Israeli citizen.

About time they practiced their own declaration then isn't it? Bits of paper and words are worth nothing. What happens ion practise is key.

Indeed, Israel is the only country in the Middle East that fully respects freedom, human rights and civil liberties...

... for Jews only.

Gotta love those racists!!!!! Sure be a boring world without some DNA superiority eh?

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

There is no reliable evidence bearing out your [baseless] allegation.. The use of white phosphorous is lawful and has been used since World War I. The US has used WP in Iraq.

White Phosphorous is illegal to use over civilians areas. There's plenty of pictures and video of the stuff both in the air and burning Palestinian children. the UN has conducted an extensive study and corroborated this.

Plenty of reliable evidence in the real world. We appreciate in the Zionist Fantasy world such stuff is viewed with complete denial.

You can say it didn't happen a thousand times, and to quote The Fool, you can "look the other way and whistle a happy tune". But it still happened. The Israeli government are racist thugs who have no care for human life for non-Jews.

George Galloway is at least one politician not contaminated or bankrolled by Zionism who recognizes this.

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

it is Hamas that was to blame for those civilian casualties.

Yes we've heard this a hundred times from the Israeli Propaganda machine. Mark Regev is a particular distasteful individual peddling these lies. The bully that blames his victim is the ultimate coward.

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

Hamas, a terrorist organization, as classified by the US State Department, is terrorizing their own population.

Israel a terrorist and racist state put it's own population in the region of Sderot in danger in order to generate an excuse to slaughter Palestinians.

The Zionists don't even care about expending a few Jews in order to further their agenda.

 

[Marc39]

Israel a terrorist and racist state put it's own population in the region of Sderot in danger in order to generate an excuse to slaughter Palestinians.

The Zionists don't even care about expending a few Jews in order to further their agenda.

The problem with your post is it's comprised of pure rhetoric and flat-out lies, which appears to be a pattern.

Israel is a sovereign state with a history of defending itself against terrorism, such as the al-Aqsa intifada of Palestinian suicide bombings in Israel lasting four years, from 2000-2004, that resulted in 1,000 Israeli casualties and 6,000 wounded.

Hamas, the regime in Gaza, is classified as a terrorist group by the US and EU and, indeed, is dedicated to Israel's destruction, the very definition of terrorism. al-Aqsa Brigades, aligned with Fatah, is also classified as a terrorist organization by the US State Dep't.

Suggesting the Israeli government deliberately placed its own population in danger as a pretext for "slaughtering" Palestinians is one of the sickest and most warped views I have heard.

The Israeli government tolerated 12,000 rockets from Gaza for 8 years in an effort to avoid military reprisals through diplomatic avenues, before finally retaliating.

Had Cuba fired one missile into Florida, the US government would have retaliated immediately.

Furthermore, had the goal of the IDF been to slaughter Palestinians, it did an incompetent job doing so. After three weeks of combat, only a few hundred Pal casualties were incurred. The IDF had sufficient time to slaughter the entire population of 1.5 million Gazans.

Indeed, the IDF would not have warned Gazans of the military operation with leaflets and telephone calls, nor would the IDF have unilaterally interrupted battle for three hours a day for the administration humanitarian aid, had it's objective been slaughter.

British Commander Richard Kemp, who led British forces in Afghanistan and, earlier, in Northern Ireland, sums up the IDF's conduct in Gaza as having performed in an exemplary manner...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssrKJ3Iqcw

 

[Marc39]

White Phosphorous is illegal to use over civilians areas.

White phosphorous has been use in civilian areas by the US military in World War II, Korea, Viet Nam and Iraq.

There's plenty of pictures and video of the stuff both in the air and burning Palestinian children. the UN has conducted an extensive study and corroborated this.

White phosphorous is deployed in the air, so, your statement is uninformed.

There are "plenty" of pictures of Hamas fighting out of uniform, firing from within civilian centers and engaging in perfidy, all violations of the law of armed conflict and illustrations of Hamas endangering its own population.

And, while Hamas used ambulances for military purposes, constituting perfidy, they did not use those ambulances for their intended purpose...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7801881.stm

We appreciate in the Zionist Fantasy world such stuff is viewed with complete denial.

More Jew hate.

 

[Arcade22]

White Phosphorous is illegal to use over civilians areas.

Source?

 

[JihadJane]

Hold on, aren't we supposed to discussing why Galloway is uniquely awful not why Israeli war crimes are?

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

We appreciate in the Zionist Fantasy world such stuff is viewed with complete denial.

More Jew hate.

We need more people like George Galloway to speak out against the ridiculous arguments that equate 'Zionist' with 'Jew' and the pulling out of the race card to counter criticism of the Zionist Movement

George Galloway is a fine orator who has spoken out against the atrocities committed by Israel against both Lebanon and Gaza.

Also the way he demolished the idiots in the Senate in retort to their pathetic attempt to smear him was pure class

 

[Tin Foil Timothy]

Source?

"The use of incendiary weapons against civilians was banned (by signatory countries) in the 1980 Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons Protocol III. The USA signed Protocols I and II on March 24, 1995 (and the amended article II on May 24, 1999) and later Protocols III, IV, and V, on January 21, 2009."

also

http://www.unog.ch/__80256ee6005859...cb0c?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=1,2#_Section1

Not that it matters, it's morally disgusting regardless of any legality.

Anyway.... back to Galloway and the discussion on how excellent he is!!!

 

[Marc39]

We need more people like George Galloway to speak out against the ridiculous arguments that equate 'Zionist' with 'Jew' and the pulling out of the race card to counter criticism of the Zionist Movement

George Galloway is a fine orator who has spoken out against the atrocities committed by Israel against both Lebanon and Gaza.

Also the way he demolished the idiots in the Senate in retort to their pathetic attempt to smear him was pure class

Has Galloway spoken out against Lebanon housing Palestinians in refugee camps for 60 years, denying them citizenship so they cannot receive healthcare and forbidding Pals from working in 70 different types of jobs?

Oh, that's right, that doesn't involve Israel. Damn.