9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[Chaos]

You forgot accusing anybody who disagrees with him of being a Jew.

I don´t think he accused me. Now I´m feeling left out...

 

[headscratcher4]

I'm not Jewish...but would like to be accused of being so...

 

[bigjelmapro]

Why don't you go out and fire some white phosphorous shells at a toyota truck full of Palistinian teenagers....I think the Gazans are poised to attack your poor peace loving nation...Never again!! Shalom

Read that on Jewwatch or Rense?

 

[Chaos]

I'm not Jewish...but would like to be accused of being so...

Yeah. Just for the novelty of it, if nothing else.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I hope you good folks don't mind me comng in a spicing up the dialog here..As far as I could tell by reading the thread, since 911 investigator left after demolishing you drones 1 against 20, there has been nothing going on here except a large circle jerk between the guys in the cubicles...Thanks for the opportunity...

Happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
So lets sing a song of cheer again
Happy days are here again

Just returned from a plunge in the Indian Ocean... and studying the ihr.org site via the hotel wifi...

after all the show must go on. My wife declared me nuts prefering 4 hours of revisionist surfing per day over white beaches and green water but hey, that's me: a hotel room and the sound of the laptop ventilator.

 

[dafydd]

Happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
So lets sing a song of cheer again
Happy days are here again

Just returned from a plunge in the Indian Ocean... and studying the ihr.org site via the hotel wifi...

after all the show must go on. My wife declared me nuts prefering 4 hours of revisionist surfing per day over white beaches and green water but hey, that's me: a hotel room and the sound of the laptop ventilator.

She has my deepest sympathy.

 

[jmh423]

Happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
So lets sing a song of cheer again
Happy days are here again

Just returned from a plunge in the Indian Ocean... and studying the ihr.org site via the hotel wifi...

after all the show must go on. My wife declared me nuts prefering 4 hours of revisionist surfing per day over white beaches and green water but hey, that's me: a hotel room and the sound of the laptop ventilator.

Welcome back!! I just wandered into this thread and was pounced on immediately, called "nazi scum" & every other name in the book by these hateful half wits....I have enjoyed it though and will stick around for a while...For some true comic relief, check out a fairly new thread called "how to seriously debunk WTC 7" or something to that effect...It is the funniest thing I have read since the original 911 commission report..Are these guys really serious? Take it to them again....Thanks

 

[jmh423]

Why don't you go out and fire some white phosphorous shells at a toyota truck full of Palistinian teenagers....I think the Gazans are poised to attack your poor peace loving nation...Never again!! Shalom

Read that on Jewwatch or Rense?

No that one was all mine....Thanks

 

[Algebra34]

This is so damn negative. Why go around and around on this forever? Both sides full of venom. People were victimized and died. Does it matter exactly how after that point? Who here really even cares about the victims more than the debate?

 

[Humanzee]

Is JMH saying something specific here? Or just saying Isreal is just as bad as most nations on the planet? Is that a meaningful or useful statement?

 

[apathoid]

"Why don't you go out and fire some white phosphorous shells at a toyota truck full of Palistinian teenagers....I think the Gazans are poised to attack your poor peace loving nation...Never again!! Shalom "




No that one was all mine....Thanks

Hmmm, disregard what I said earlier. You have my permission to go back to ripping off Neo-Nazi and alternative media blogs.

 

[9/11-investigator]

There are, on the other hand, hundreds of captured Nazi documents which attest to the reality of the Final Solution. They are mostly still in archives, accessible to historians, but if you look around you should be able to find a good deal of them scanned and uploaded on the 'net.

Good. Provide us with some so we can discuss them. And don't give me the links to nizkor or similar tactics. Give me the link to one single document that you find most convincing in order to proof gassings.

The evidence for the Wannsee Conference and what was decided there is incontrovertible. But why not actually pick up a book on the subject and read about it? I have seen little evidence on your part of any actual interest in understanding the non-denialist side.

This Protokoll was convenient found after the war by this Jewish Kempner chap who had faked documentary evidence before as I have shown earlier in this thread. The authenticity of that Wannsee document is doubtful to put it mildly.

Estimates below 5 million and above 6 million are rare.

Since prominent holders of those estimates are usually to be found in jail.

The number of total victims at Auschwitz was indeed revised down from 4 million, which is the number the Soviets used to maintain and had listed on plaques at the site (though that number was never taken as gospel by Western historians).

You are conveniently 'forgetting' that that 4 million number also appeared in the 'testimony' by Hoess, obtained after torture by English torturers. So don't try to shift the blame for that ridiculous number solely on the Soviets. This alone is proof enough that the allies tried to frame the Germans rather than obtain the objective truth.

It is now known to be much lower, and that the Soviets were greatly exaggerating the numbers for propaganda purposes.

And so did the western allies.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I have had some good Jewish friends and have met victims of the Holocaust - those who were lucky enough to survive.

'Victims' who were lucky enough to survive. Hmmm...

I have seen the NAZI Brands on their arms.

You are talking about id's. Most lower class youngsters these days have tattoos much bigger these 5-6 digit numbers. Google 'auschwitz tattoo number', browse through the first pages and verify that the highest number is 140603 apart from 3 5-digit numbers:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Auschwitz_survivor_displays_tattoo_detail.jpg

Surprisingly low number.

I was involved in doing a book about the Holocaust and had to copy hundreds of graphic and horrible photos of the Victims and the conditions under which they spent their last days.

That was Belsen. I have to agree that the allies were quit efficient with their bombing campaigns which had it's horrible affect on the situation in the camps as well.

I remember a photo of a large pile of spectacles, I think at Auswicz. My darkroom assistant told me he was very sick after one day making copies of those photos. We had to make negatives and prints of all this stuff.

I saw them 'live' at Auschwitz too:

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/b...tudents-visit-auschwitz-gallery-430240496.jpg

I noticed that these spectacles looked rather identical to me. Soviet industrial production was notorious for producing only a few models for every product. It's not that difficult to fake that kind of evidence. Even the Americans long maintained against better knowledge that this delousing gas chamber in Dachau was a homicidal gas chamber. No holocaust conformist maintains that idea anymore. Lies, propaganda and deception ruled those days.

So anyone who still claims the Holocaust never happened should get into a gas oven with the gas turned on. I would gladly help that person.

Not entirely sure what eccles means with 'gas oven'. No prominent holocaust conformist ever mentioned these. The story is: HCN/CO gas chambers + wood/coal crematoria afterwards. No 'gas ovens'.

And next eccles outs himself as a potential murderer.

I believe him. Nice chap.

 

[Jungle Jim]

You are talking about id's. Most lower class youngsters these days have tattoos much bigger these 5-6 digit numbers.

Yes, and most people who have tattoos these days get them voluntarily.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Yes, and most people who have tattoos these days get them voluntarily.

Sure. I agree that the Nazi's should have issued nice passports with photographs and fingerprints for identification purposes.

 

[Trojan]

9-11 Investigator

Did you happen to find the Krege report you promised a month ago?

Anything new?

 

[Trojan]

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/b...tudents-visit-auschwitz-gallery-430240496.jpg

I noticed that these spectacles looked rather identical to me. Soviet industrial production was notorious for producing only a few models for every product. It's not that difficult to fake that kind of evidence.

This comment should be noted for what it is.

This is a typical Holocaust Denier / Truther tactic - throw mud against the wall. You will notice our investigator does not level a specific charge - that way he can't be accused of making a false statement. This is actually more than just muddying the waters -- this is a deceptive tactic you will find in his posting style. Dishonest accusations - many are outright lies.

I've asked it before and I'll ask it again, if you think you are on the side of truth, why do you need to lie?

 

[dafydd]

Because Holocaust Deniers do nothing but lie.

 

[Jontg]

Just in case you're wondering where Investigator gets these lovely little images of an idyllic, happy concentration camp, allow me to direct you to "Der Führer schenkt den Juden eine Stadt" (The Fuhrer Gives the Jews a City"), an especially godawful propaganda film produced as part of an effort to hoodwink Red Cross representatives. Building facades were set up, various entertainments were staged, and they got Kurt Gerron to produce by telling him that he and his family would be spared. As soon as he was finished, of course, he, er... fled somewhere else and was never heard from again.

And he says Americans can't tell movies from reality.

 

[9/11-investigator]

9-11 Investigator

Did you happen to find the Krege report you promised a month ago?

Anything new?

You know the answer to that yourself but thanks anyway for the opportunity to summarize the Krege issue once again (see page 43/44):

This site summarizes what Krege did: http://www.nafcash.com/

This site describes the technology behind it: http://www.geomodel.com/

This is the video that shows Krege in Action in Treblinka: http://www.codoh.com/video/treblinka.mpg

Krege defended his thesis as late as December 2006 during the holocaust conference in Teheran.

Our Jewish friend who poses as a Russian with orthodox background (why do you think he calls himself Trojan? Answer: to satisfy his pleasure in fooling the Goyim) or one of his fellow ethnic tribesmen could easily travel to Treblinka and repeat the experiment and thus prove that there once was a mass grave of 870,000 people. I mean they have money enough to do it. Afterall, the interest payments cashed by the FED, an institution stolen by the youknowwho's from the American people, amounts to 10 million dollars per hour. With this money they are able to buy the entire American politics, so spending a few stolen bucks on Trojan 'mowing the grass in Treblinka' should not be a problem if that would cement the power position of said youknowwho's even further. But naturally that's not going to happen.

Of course they are not that foolish because they know very well that there is nothing to be found as Krege has already shown. But Trojan is not interested in the truth since the holocaust is the centerpiece of Jewish hegemony and power over the West. So the only thing left to uphold this power position is to introduce laws to throw any doubter in jail.

So this is the fantastic situation: the same people who organized a holomodor in the Ukraine during the buildup of their communism have managed to get away with that and at the same time falsely accused another group on inflicting a holocaust upon them.

You can't make this stuff up. But now it's all coming out thanks to the internet, the one thing they could not foresee when they drafted their plans for cultural hegemony over the West, a plan in which a holocaust tale was centerpiece. And now it's all coming apart, it will come down as a house of cards.

And since we are in page 48 now: can Trojan or Jontg or somebody else please provide me with the name and proof of at least 1 person who was gassed in one of the so called death camps? I am not asking for millions. Only one. Please.