9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[apathoid]

Hey champ, why are you so worried about me posting info from other sources? If you read my former posts you would know that I am obviously capable of thinking for myself. The tactic that you are using like a broken record is an elementary disinfo tool that is easily detected by any objetive reader of this thread...Though from what I can see there is little chance of anyone reading anything that is printed on this site other than the group of boring government apologists and shills that live here.

I don't mind people posting sources to back certain claims, in fact, it's to be expected. But what you are doing is called spam, or worse, plagiarism.

 

[jmh423]

Good evening....

 

[jmh423]

I don't mind people posting sources to back certain claims, in fact, it's to be expected. But what you are doing is called spam, or worse, plagiarism.

Well as long as you don't mind it....What you are doing is as I clearly pointed out is ducking the issues which is painfully obvious...Do you have ANY thoughts on the subjects I entered or is this your whole schtick? Pretty weak, even for this site...

 

[jmh423]

Ever heard of the concept of proxy-warfare? Hezbollah? Hamas? How about the Iranian missiles they purchased used against Israel? Nice one.

'US requisitioned tanks'? Hehe. Merkava tanks are Israeli made. The APCs Israel are either locally made, but are predominantly those of Russian origin, acquired from Egypt and Syria in their failed wars against Israel. I've served on several bases where these tanks are situated and have seen them with my own eyes.

The only US tanks that Israel has in their possession are relics based in Latrun, a tank museum --> http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=120102

You really make this too easy. And boy, have I taken the bait on these deflections. I will stop now.

Ahhh the IDF warrior!! Sorry I stand corrected about the tanks...But one thing is for sure...Your US welfare state most likely got the money from me and the rest of the US taxpayers...You guys don't produce anything there besides terrorism, and munitions, do you? But you are our biggest allies in the middle east....that's right isn't it? Israel has fought shoulder to shoulder with US soldiers in Iraq, and Afghanistan, right? Oh really....not one troop..What's up with that?.Some ally. I guess fighting against someone with real guns is a little hairy for you guys...Tanks and gunships against kids throwing rocks is more your style eh? I can hardly wait to visit the heroic Laturn Tank Museum...Do I need to book tickets in advance? Can you get me a deal? Thanks

 

[apathoid]

Well as long as you don't mind it....What you are doing is as I clearly pointed out is ducking the issues which is painfully obvious...Do you have ANY thoughts on the subjects I entered or is this your whole schtick? Pretty weak, even for this site...

Lets see...ummm... the Holocaust happened. What else is there to say?

 

[jmh423]

I hope you good folks don't mind me comng in a spicing up the dialog here..As far as I could tell by reading the thread, since 911 investigator left after demolishing you drones 1 against 20, there has been nothing going on here except a large circle jerk between the guys in the cubicles...Thanks for the opportunity...

 

[jmh423]

Lets see...ummm... the Holocaust happened. What else is there to say?

Lot's of "holocausts" happened....Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, a lot of the firebombing in Viet Nam could be accurately described as such, are true "holocausts".....Repressive regimes have systematecally killed, tortured, and imprisoned millions for racist and political reasons between 1920 and the present day...These would include US genocidal policy against native Americans, Nazi Germany's persecution of Jews throughout Europe, Russia, and Ukraine, Lenin-Stalin USSR 50 million+ murdered, Communist China another 50 million, and now Israel's systematic destruction of the Palistinians....And yes they all happened or are still happening...And all are disgusting chapters in world history...Thank you

 

[bigjelmapro]

Not a cheap shot, you guys are a dime a dozen with the hack jobs you do of other people's conspiracy website drivel. Zionist this, zionist that, shill, shill shill, and then the ever popular, Fox/CNN/BBC comparison, as if you guys even watch the news. You'd bite your tongue if you actually do.

And I still see that you guys believe in the fabricated quote of Ariel Sharon in 'we control america' bit. Always nice to see that still floating around.

Youtube cheerleaders =)

 

[jmh423]

Not a cheap shot, you guys are a dime a dozen with the hack jobs you do of other people's conspiracy website drivel. Zionist this, zionist that, shill, shill shill, and then the ever popular, Fox/CNN/BBC comparison, as if you guys even watch the news. You'd bite your tongue if you actually do.

And I still see that you guys believe in the fabricated quote of Ariel Sharon in 'we control america' bit. Always nice to see that still floating around.

Youtube cheerleaders =)

Why don't you go out and fire some white phosphorous shells at a toyota truck full of Palistinian teenagers....I think the Gazans are poised to attack your poor peace loving nation...Never again!! Shalom

 

[dudalb]

With all the warnings that jmh423 is getting from the mods, he will not be with us long and when he is gone he will not be missed.

 

[Moss]

Well as long as you don't mind it....What you are doing is as I clearly pointed out is ducking the issues which is painfully obvious...Do you have ANY thoughts on the subjects I entered or is this your whole schtick? Pretty weak, even for this site...

Are there any specific points you want to discuss that haven't been discussed already in this thread? If not you may still want to read the site I showed you already.

 

[jmh423]

With all the warnings that jmh423 is getting from the mods, he will not be with us long and when he is gone he will not be missed.

Then you 20 guys can continue your MSM circle jerk uninterupted...Back in the comfort zone...LOL

 

[jmh423]

Are there any specific points you want to discuss that haven't been discussed already in this thread? If not you may still want to read the site I showed you already.

I read the site you referred me to and also some others that dispute many of its findings. I also watched the excellent debate between Dr Michael Shermer and Mark Weber..Then heard Bill Handel and Weber debate. From what I can discern from these sources, there is a lot room for revisionism in this area as in almost all History in general. Dr Shermer even conceded this fact. As I said when I first posted here: My main concern was the fact that people were getting deported from the US and other supposedly free countries, and locked up in Germany after kangaroo USSR style "trials". Activist citizens like Zundel, reknowned Historians like David Irving, and even more troubling lawyer Sylvia Stoltz, who was railroaded in Germany for presenting evidence to defend her client. That is CHILLING!!

In reading this thread from the beginning it is quite clear that 911 investigator completely dominated all of the NWO Gatekeepers, Government Loyalists, and the rest of the de facto zio-bots who permeate the old JREF forums...You guys just went into the old ad hom attack mode, and 911 made you all look like the fools you are...

In my view it is not very important exactly how the victims of the third reich died or even how many there were. The fact is that whether it's 1 million or six, or whether they were gassed, shot in the back or imprisoned and died from disease and starvation, the behavior of the Nazis was attrocious and there is no excuse for any of it. However to try to equate someone who disputes the facts about what exactly happened or the numbers, with one who is in favor of the ultimately murderous actions of Hitler and company is extremely disingenuous. I have met people who are big fans of Hitler's actions...They are a disgusting bunch who wish he would have been around longer to kill more people...They are not holocaust deniers...They are the "neo-nazi scum"....My position is not anywhere near these people, and yet three of the posters here attacked me and called me "nazi scum"...This is what makes me suspicious of the rabble here. The same tactic is used when someone attacks Israeli policy and is called "anti-semite"...Even though the real semites are the Palistinians...Very transparent tactics and motives. Thanks

 

[Chaos]

My main concern was the fact that people were getting deported from the US and other supposedly free countries, and locked up in Germany after kangaroo USSR style "trials".

No. Your main concern is whitewashing the crimes of some of the worst monsters in human history.

And unlike your Nazi heroes, Germany today has fair trials following the law.

Activist citizens like Zundel, reknowned Historians like David Irving, and even more troubling lawyer Sylvia Stoltz, who was railroaded in Germany for presenting evidence to defend her client. That is CHILLING!!

I would laugh at that, if the impulse to puke wasn´t so much stronger. Zündel is a hatemonger, Irving isn´t renowned for anything except falsifying history, and Sylvia Stoltz was indicted for trying to turn a court trial into a Nazi propaganda event. It is indeed chilling that anyone´s thinking is so warped that they would assume a viewpoint such as yours.

In reading this thread from the beginning it is quite clear that 911 investigator completely dominated all of the NWO Gatekeepers, Government Loyalists, and the rest of the de facto zio-bots who permeate the old JREF forums...You guys just went into the old ad hom attack mode, and 911 made you all look like the fools you are...

911 presented a pile of Nazi lies, and duly got his ass handed to him. Is it our fault that he is too stupid or warped to realize this? And is it our fault that your worldview does now allow you to admit you are wrong?

In my view it is not very important exactly how the victims of the third reich died or even how many there were. The fact is that whether it's 1 million or six, or whether they were gassed, shot in the back or imprisoned and died from disease and starvation, the behavior of the Nazis was attrocious and there is no excuse for any of it.

That is precisely what you and 911 and your heroes Zündel and Irving and Stoltz are trying to deny. You would have us believe that the Nazis were some misunderstood do-gooders smeared by the evil world-wide jewish communist conspiracy.

However to try to equate someone who disputes the facts about what exactly happened or the numbers, with one who is in favor of the ultimately murderous actions of Hitler and company is extremely disingenuous.

But all those who dispute actual facts - rather than disputable hypotheses - such as the fact that the Nazis were mass murders and that millions of Jews, Gypsies and others were intentionally killed by them, are in almost every case of the opinion that the Jews must be destroyed. In other words, they secretly admire Hitler´s genocidal actions, but deny them for the political reason that they wish to smear the Jews.

I have met people who are big fans of Hitler's actions...They are a disgusting bunch who wish he would have been around longer to kill more people...They are not holocaust deniers...They are the "neo-nazi scum"....My position is not anywhere near these people, and yet three of the posters here attacked me and called me "nazi scum"...This is what makes me suspicious of the rabble here.

You are acting from the perverse urge to smear the Jews and whitewash the Nazi crimes. This makes you no better than the rest of the Nazi scum out there. Who cares if you love the Nazis or simply hate the Jews?

The same tactic is used when someone attacks Israeli policy and is called "anti-semite"...Even though the real semites are the Palistinians...Very transparent tactics and motives. Thanks

You are very transparent indeed. Deny, deny, deny... simply repeat the same old lies until they stick, and proclaim yourself a martyr when somebody calls you on it. Come back when you´ve learned some new tricks.

 

[jmh423]

No. Your main concern is whitewashing the crimes of some of the worst monsters in human history.

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"And unlike your Nazi heroes, Germany today has fair trials following the law."

Perfect demonstration of exactly what I indicated. This person intimates that "Nazis are my heros"....Read the trial transcripts...fair trials..LOL

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"I would laugh at that, if the impulse to puke wasn´t so much stronger. Zündel is a hatemonger, Irving isn´t renowned for anything except falsifying history, and Sylvia Stoltz was indicted for trying to turn a court trial into a Nazi propaganda event. It is indeed chilling that anyone´s thinking is so warped that they would assume a viewpoint such as yours."

Your completely biased opinions and nothing more. Totally inaccurate I might add..Anyone who takes a different view of things is "warped"...

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"911 presented a pile of Nazi lies, and duly got his ass handed to him. Is it our fault that he is too stupid or warped to realize this? And is it our fault that your worldview does now allow you to admit you are wrong?"

911 presented many facts that don't fit into your tight little distorted world view...Got his ass handed to him? LOL....Read the thread...You and yours were soundly beaten at every predictable turn

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"That is precisely what you and 911 and your heroes Zündel and Irving and Stoltz are trying to deny. You would have us believe that the Nazis were some misunderstood do-gooders smeared by the evil world-wide jewish communist conspiracy."

I think several of my posts clearly indicate that I do not consider the Nazis "do gooders". Nor do I consider Zundel one of my heros. I would however assert the fact that the zionists have repeatedly used their exaggerated and over hyped version of events to justify their attrocious behavior in the middle east for the last 60+ years and counting.


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"But all those who dispute actual facts - rather than disputable hypotheses - such as the fact that the Nazis were mass murders and that millions of Jews, Gypsies and others were intentionally killed by them, are in almost every case of the opinion that the Jews must be destroyed. In other words, they secretly admire Hitler´s genocidal actions, but deny them for the political reason that they wish to smear the Jews."

It certainly appears that the Nazis were mass murderers any way you slice it. I don't deny that and state clearly on several posts. I do not believe that the Jews must be destroyed, never said anything like that. Are you related to Abe Foxman? Secretly admire Hitlers genocidal actions...Oh a mind reader, excellent!! What a pathetic lying buffoon...LOL..









You are acting from the perverse urge to smear the Jews and whitewash the Nazi crimes. This makes you no better than the rest of the Nazi scum out there. Who cares if you love the Nazis or simply hate the Jews?



You are very transparent indeed. Deny, deny, deny... simply repeat the same old lies until they stick, and proclaim yourself a martyr when somebody calls you on it. Come back when you´ve learned some new tricks.

Perfect demonstration of exactly what I indicated....thank you

 

[Slayhamlet]

I see that vacuous troll jmh423 has decided to maintain the MO set in place by the loathsome racist 9/11-investigator and use this thread as nothing more than an opportunity to spam pro-Nazi propaganda instead of engaging the arguments. Predictable.

 

[Think_Tank]

...As far as I could tell by reading the thread, since 911 investigator left after demolishing you drones 1 against 20...

My memory may be slipping, but I can't remember a single verifiable point made by 911 in this entire 48 page train-wreck of a thread that wasn't blown clear out of the water.

Can you?

 

[dafydd]

I hope you good folks don't mind me comng in a spicing up the dialog here..As far as I could tell by reading the thread, since 911 investigator left after demolishing you drones 1 against 20, there has been nothing going on here except a large circle jerk between the guys in the cubicles...Thanks for the opportunity...

You have a very idiosyncratic definition of the word demolishing,If you mean that he made a total arse of himself and had all his neo-nazi scumbag arguments trashed,then you are correct.

 

[headscratcher4]

If avoiding answering questions, addressing points that call into question 9/11's sources, information, facts, debunking any of the common facts asserted about Nazis, the holocaust, using disengenouis arguments built on falacious arguments and mischarachterization of facts, if all of that = demolishing, than yes, he did demolish the custodians of history...but then the earth would be flat and the Nazi flag would fly over a united Europe and there would be no jews left in the world, so in that sense, he's an epic failure.

 

[dudalb]

If avoiding answering questions, addressing points that call into question 9/11's sources, information, facts, debunking any of the common facts asserted about Nazis, the holocaust, using disengenouis arguments built on falacious arguments and mischarachterization of facts, if all of that = demolishing, than yes, he did demolish the custodians of history...but then the earth would be flat and the Nazi flag would fly over a united Europe and there would be no jews left in the world, so in that sense, he's an epic failure.

You forgot accusing anybody who disagrees with him of being a Jew.