Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

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twinstead said:
I mean for example, is the Hawaii registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, who physically touched the birth certificate lying?
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That so-called Hawaii registrar of vital statistics is obviously a fraud. Everyone knows Vitalstatistix is from Gaul!

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timhau said:
That so-called Hawaii registrar of vital statistics is obviously a fraud. Everyone knows Vitalstatistix is from Gaul!

[qimg]http://www.asterix.co.nz/characters/gauls/vitalstatistix.jpg[/qimg]
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LOL I stand corrected
 
ANTPogo said:
That's utterly irrelevant, since in 1961, at the time of Obama's birth, the Hawaii newspapers got the information used for birth announcements directly from the hospitals, and not from the family. So, unless the hospitals and/or the newspapers were in on the coverup back in '61, Barack Obama was indeed born in Honolulu.
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the Hawaii newspapers got the information used for birth announcements directly from the hospitals,


Fact or opinion?

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Please provide reference/cite for all quoted material (in this case ANTPogo).
 
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Alvin Onaka, the Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics says Obama was born in Hawaii.

Fact or opinion?
 
This is like a Socratic Dialogue done by a four year old on a sugar high and a blind chimp that knows sign language but has arthritis.
 
Yes because Berg is a solid individual...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_J._Berg

Berg was successfully sued for legal malpractice by former clients on whose behalf Berg had neglected to file a response to a complaint in an ERISA lawsuit, resulting in a default judgment being entered against the former clients.
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In October 2004, Berg filed Rodriguez v. Bush, accusing the President of the United States and 155 other parties of complicity in the 9/11 attacks.
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Also, being a Dem doesn't make him any less crazy!:rolleyes:
 
boyntonstu said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3f0GYXTcXc

Listen as Philip J. Berg; attorney explains the Obama eligibility case that he is spearheading. Many interesting facts are uncovered and examined.

Berg was a life-long Democrat.

Decide for yourself.
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The evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii is ENORMOUS. Like the courts have said, it's not even worthy of discussion. You obviously REFUSE to discuss any evidence that contradicts your opinion, and for good reason.

One last chance: Do you think the Hawaii Registrar is lying?
 
boyntonstu said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3f0GYXTcXc

Listen as Philip J. Berg; attorney explains the Obama eligibility case that he is spearheading. Many interesting facts are uncovered and examined.

Berg was a life-long Democrat.

Decide for yourself.
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Appeal to authority, can't stand facts? Quote someone else who has no facts!
A 'life-long Democrat' is not a shield against stupidity.
 
boyntonstu said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3f0GYXTcXc

Listen as Philip J. Berg; attorney explains the Obama eligibility case that he is spearheading. Many interesting facts are uncovered and examined.

Berg was a life-long Democrat.

Decide for yourself.
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I got as far as "Obama isn't producing these documents"

More typical conspiracy stuff.

The real overwhelming evidence of the conspiracy is that there is NO EVIDENCE!

You see, if we had the documents, that would be evidence! But since we don't have the documents, there's no evidence! The lack of evidence is the evidence!

The state of Hawaii has the evidence, and they say Obama was born there.
 
the story so far

So let’s see if I have the birther conspiracy correct. In the Summer of 1961 Obama’s mom, who is only 18, is about to give birth to her first child. She has two choices.

a) Give birth in a Honolulu Hospital, where she knows she will get good care, surrounded by her family and friends, with a doctor she knows, and where she can go home after a few days with a newborn via an easy car ride, knowing that she has family and friends to help her with her baby

b) She can travel to Kenya, probably a several day trip via airplane (while 9 months pregnant!) buying international airplane tickets even though she’s a college student without a lot of money. Once in Kenya she can give birth aided by an unknown doctor, in a hospital she doesn’t know anything about, surrounded by strangers. Once she’s given birth she has to then repeat her trip back halfway across the world, this time with a newborn.

For some reason she chooses Option B. She makes the trip but manages not to leave any trail of documents behind, such as consular records or visas. She also somehow (and for some odd reason) has someone in a hospital in Honolulu fake a birth record so that an announcement will appear in the Honolulu newspapers and so her son’s official records will say he was born in Honolulu. She then swears her family and friends to secrecy, again for no reason that was apparent in 1961.

Gee, and birthers wonder why the rest of us think they’re crazy. (and, I would add, racist. No one ever questioned the nationality of a white candidate before, and no, there are not “legitimate questions” in this case.)
 
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