Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

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boyntonstu said:
Do you know the difference between a "Certificate of Live Birth" and a "Birth Certificate"?
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Yes. NOTHING!

I have a copy of my birth certificate from the state of Illinios and at the top it says, "Certificate of Live Birth". The difference is a myth made up by birthers. In fact on a Freerepublic thread discussing the issue a guy posted his kids "birth certificate" to show how it was different than a "certificate of life birth"... except right at the top it said "certificate of live birth".
 
A certified copy of my birth certificate issued a month after I was born says, "Certificate of Live Birth."

Birthers are stupid and crazy.
 
I suppose someone working for the Obama administration developed a time machine and went back to change the birth announcements in the 13 August, 1961 edition of the Honolulu Advertiser.
 
Hokulele said:
I suppose someone working for the Obama administration developed a time machine and went back to change the birth announcements in the 13 August, 1961 edition of the Honolulu Advertiser.
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If I placed your birth announcement in the newspaper today, could you claim that you are younger?

Count the ways to get Hawaii 'birth certificate'
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 29, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:23:47 PM by RobinMasters

An analysis of Hawaii's birth recording requirements around the time of Barack Obama's 1961 birth reveals several ways to generate a "Certificate of Birth," including some that require no documentation other than the assertion of a adult.

The word comes in a report by an investigator commissioned by a retired CIA officer. The report was posted online by the Western Center for Journalism, which withheld the officer's name.

"In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an 'original birth certificate' on record," the investigator says, including a report to the Department of Health from an attending physician or midwife.

But if the certificate was obtained through any of the other three options, "Obama would have a very good reason not to release the vault birth certificate," the investigator said.

"If the original certificate were the standard … type of birth certificate (documented by a physician or midwife), he would have allowed its release and brought the controversy to a quick end," the report said. The investigator said if the birth certificate was obtained by one of the other methods, then it contributes to the overall questions raised about Obama's eligibility.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
 
Let me see your birth certificate within the next 24 hours(you can block out the names) or we will all assume that you are not actually a human being.

Do you get what this is supposed to prove?
 
dtugg said:
A certified copy of my birth certificate issued a month after I was born says, "Certificate of Live Birth."

Birthers are stupid and crazy.
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well then, you must have been born in Kenya.

:D

could you show us a copy with the private info blanked out?
 
boyntonstu said:
If I placed your birth announcement in the newspaper today, could you claim that you are younger?

Count the ways to get Hawaii 'birth certificate'
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 29, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:23:47 PM by RobinMasters

An analysis of Hawaii's birth recording requirements around the time of Barack Obama's 1961 birth reveals several ways to generate a "Certificate of Birth," including some that require no documentation other than the assertion of a adult.

The word comes in a report by an investigator commissioned by a retired CIA officer. The report was posted online by the Western Center for Journalism, which withheld the officer's name.

"In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an 'original birth certificate' on record," the investigator says, including a report to the Department of Health from an attending physician or midwife.

But if the certificate was obtained through any of the other three options, "Obama would have a very good reason not to release the vault birth certificate," the investigator said.

"If the original certificate were the standard … type of birth certificate (documented by a physician or midwife), he would have allowed its release and brought the controversy to a quick end," the report said. The investigator said if the birth certificate was obtained by one of the other methods, then it contributes to the overall questions raised about Obama's eligibility.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
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Does any of this actually answer the question posed? Are you suggesting that the birth announcement is fake?
 
boyntonstu said:
If I placed your birth announcement in the newspaper today, could you claim that you are younger?
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That's utterly irrelevant, since in 1961, at the time of Obama's birth, the Hawaii newspapers got the information used for birth announcements directly from the hospitals, and not from the family. So, unless the hospitals and/or the newspapers were in on the coverup back in '61, Barack Obama was indeed born in Honolulu.


Count the ways to get Hawaii 'birth certificate'
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 29, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:23:47 PM by RobinMasters

An analysis of Hawaii's birth recording requirements around the time of Barack Obama's 1961 birth reveals several ways to generate a "Certificate of Birth," including some that require no documentation other than the assertion of a adult.

The word comes in a report by an investigator commissioned by a retired CIA officer. The report was posted online by the Western Center for Journalism, which withheld the officer's name.

"In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an 'original birth certificate' on record," the investigator says, including a report to the Department of Health from an attending physician or midwife.

But if the certificate was obtained through any of the other three options, "Obama would have a very good reason not to release the vault birth certificate," the investigator said.

"If the original certificate were the standard … type of birth certificate (documented by a physician or midwife), he would have allowed its release and brought the controversy to a quick end," the report said. The investigator said if the birth certificate was obtained by one of the other methods, then it contributes to the overall questions raised about Obama's eligibility.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
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You haven't actually read any post in this thread, have you?
 
boyntonstu said:
If I placed your birth announcement in the newspaper today, could you claim that you are younger?

Count the ways to get Hawaii 'birth certificate'
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 29, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:23:47 PM by RobinMasters

An analysis of Hawaii's birth recording requirements around the time of Barack Obama's 1961 birth reveals several ways to generate a "Certificate of Birth," including some that require no documentation other than the assertion of a adult.

The word comes in a report by an investigator commissioned by a retired CIA officer. The report was posted online by the Western Center for Journalism, which withheld the officer's name.

"In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an 'original birth certificate' on record," the investigator says, including a report to the Department of Health from an attending physician or midwife.

But if the certificate was obtained through any of the other three options, "Obama would have a very good reason not to release the vault birth certificate," the investigator said.

"If the original certificate were the standard … type of birth certificate (documented by a physician or midwife), he would have allowed its release and brought the controversy to a quick end," the report said. The investigator said if the birth certificate was obtained by one of the other methods, then it contributes to the overall questions raised about Obama's eligibility.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
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Again with the World Net Daily!

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boyntonstu said:
If I placed your birth announcement in the newspaper today, could you claim that you are younger?

Count the ways to get Hawaii 'birth certificate'
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 29, 2009 | Bob Unruh .
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how about this? PROVE that Obama's short form birth certificate and the birth announcemants are fakes, or let it go.

how's that for a challenge? can ya do it?
 
Meadmaker said:
Can you tell me how I would go about getting my "long form" birth certificate? When I wanted a certified copy of my birth certificate, I wrote to the county of my birth (in Colorado) and asked for one. I can't recall what else I was required to provide. I do know that the form didn't have any options for "long form" or "short form" copies.
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Yeah, but the form did have options for "fake" and "real". Clearly Obama checked the "fake" box when requesting his Birth Certificate.
 
Meadmaker said:
Typical conspiracy stuff.
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Very much so, given that if the birth certificate is fake then there must be large numbers of diverse people willing to keep information secret. We are left to wonder why John McCain didn't want to disqualify his opponent. Why did the Republican National Committee spend 100s of millions of dollars when they simply could have disqualified the democratic candidate at the last minute and forced the runner up (Hillary) to take over when no money or time was left?
 
I would have thought by now some film crew would have gone to Kenya and interviewed villagers who “saw the birth, participated in the birth, heard about the birth,” etc. with accompanying film of “the actual hut”.

Seems like some money could be made there.

DDWW
 
DDWW said:
I would have thought by now some film crew would have gone to Kenya and interviewed villagers who “saw the birth, participated in the birth, heard about the birth,” etc. with accompanying film of “the actual hut”.

Seems like some money could be made there.
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Yes, but not a million dollars which, as we just learned, is what Obama has spent to keep his true birthplace a secret.
 
How the hell can ANY rational person ignore the evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961?
 
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