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The Freeman Movement and England

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I just wanted to respond to the discussion I mostly missed about the income tax and whatnot. Although it's true that the 16th amendment was ratified, the whole thing is a red herring. All the 16th amendment did was lift certain restrictions on certain types of taxes. It didn't create any power to tax. That was created (as some folks already pointed out) in the original Constitution, Art. I, Sec. 8. And of course, as has been pointed out, Congress exercised the power to tax when it passed the law that is now encoded at 26 U.S.C. s. 1.

So even if Especially were right about the 16th amendment, it doesn't make him right about taxes.
 
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In the US, almost every courtroom has an American flag and the flag of whatever state the courtroom is in on display.
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Yes, I was thinking the same thing dudalb, and it is usually prominently displayed along with the district, county, burrough, township or whatever the court is in.
Hmmmm, if especially is right, everybody is in charge, yet no one is in charge?
yahoo!
now i can tell the state where they can stick their drivers responsibility fee!
the state didnt give me the ticket for no seatbelt, so they cant "fine" me for it correct?
:D:p
 
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In actual fact, the number of States which ratified the 16th Amendment was only 2.
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Will you be providing evidence for this claim?

By the way, you said that I said something wrong about Australia, care to tell us what I got wrong?
 
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Corporate policemen, corporate governments, corporate local government, corporate politicians, corporate bankers, corporate monarchies, corporate news channels, corporate contractors, corporate scams at every level. Corporate prison, corporate courts. Corporate lawyers. And where is your freedom from it ?
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Begging the question, much?
 
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Guantanamo Bay is an ILLEGAL regime. Done in your name. UNCONSITUTIONAL. Aren't you ashamed of that ?

Bank bailouts whether you want them or not.

How about the IRS scam ?

How about the corruption of the Congress ? How about the corporate control of printing the Dollar ? How about the Patriot Act and the Constitution ? How about the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan ? How about the lies and more lies of the same tired political elites ? How about the Bush speeches on the New World Order ? How about the links being made between Canada and Mexico and the end of borders ? How about bankrupt America ?

It seems to me that 'a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest'.

Wake up USA !!!
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WAKE UP ENGLAND! WAKE UP USA! ETC...

You seem to be jumping back and forth over the ocean like SuperWooman. You seem an expert on all political matters worldwide. I doubt this. Stick to your ground and leave America to the Americans. Since you are talking about the UK, your references to other places in the world are just red herrings.
 
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The United States Government printing office would never lie to you. They also published the 9/11 Official Report. That's full of lies. How about this -

The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission, John Farmer, says that the US government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11, echoing the assertions of fellow 9/11 Commission members who concluded that the Pentagon were engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack. (Farmer served as Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (officially known as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States), and is also a former New Jersey Attorney General).

Farmer’s book about his experiences working for the Commission is entitled ''The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11'', and is set to be released this year. The book unveils how “the public had been seriously misled about what occurred during the morning of the attacks,” and Farmer himself states that “at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened.”

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/arti...ent_agreed.htm

In actual fact, the number of States which ratified the 16th Amendment was only 2.

Check it for yourself.
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Holy Crap! Red herring again. We should build a Obelisk in your honor, Mr. Phallacy. You first beg the question that the 9/11 Comission is full of lies (rather, they're full of statements you disagree with thus think are lies), and then use it to claim that 100 years earlier they were also lying.

You are either very young, or tragically feeble if you think that this kind of reasoning will convince anyone HERE. Go back to writing a blog and delete your dissent.
 
Slaves of the New World Order

'I pay my taxes. I follow the law. And nobody is going to tell me different'.

Except you have no choice. You don't want choice. Except that you have no power of consent. You don't want power of consent. Except that your 'law' is nothing but commerce presided over by corporate lawyers. Your 'law' is not law. You want sovereignty but you deny it to yourself. You fly the flag and are a proud citizen. Your Congress is a joke. Your courts are commercial companies operating according to the law of the Admiralty Law. Not the law of the land. Your tax money goes to the 'system'. Your choice is nil. And the scarecrows want you to pay, forever. As 'law abiding' slaves. Regardless of what the real law says. Anyone who says differently or who asks you to think is crazy.

You are, in fact, a 'law abiding' slave of the corporate mafia New World Order, and you are, like it or not, a faithful servant of the so-called government. Serving them, your master. Bailing them out. Over and over again. You sit on your backside while your own Constitution is being trashed. You want phone taps, surveillance state brutality, and corporate police. You sanction every venture of the industrial/military complex. And you are a 'law' abiding slave.

Since, a man cannot serve two masters. You are a law-abiding slave. And you have got the government you deserve. The one you want. The one who entertained you on TV. The one you demanded. You've no right to complain about it. Because you don't want it to be any different, even if people show that you yourself are the cause of your own slavery.
 
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You are a law-abiding slave. And you have got the government you deserve. The one you want. The one you demand.
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Deserving, wanting, and demanding have nothing to do with it. The NWO is what you get. Period.

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You've no right to complain about it.
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You can complain. In fact, that's what you (the non-generic you, you know) are doing. That's why we have the Black Helicopters. Duh.
 
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Deserving, wanting, and demanding have nothing to do with it. The NWO is what you get. Period.



You can complain. In fact, that's what you (the non-generic you, you know) are doing. That's why we have the Black Helicopters. Duh.
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Yes, the NWO is your own creation. You don't want the Constitution. You don't want good government. You don't want personal liberty. You don't want choice, or the power of consent. You don't want anything except a widescreen television. With you, as a loyal 'law abiding' slave of the government. (So-called).

We don't need black helicopters. We need eagles in a generation of chickens.
 
But wait

You say we are the slaves but then we don't believe your story. On the other hand you DO believe this story and haven't yet made yourself 'free' and proved it to the world. This seems a strange and puzzling contradiction.

Why are you not a freeman if you believe this?
 
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But wait

You say we are the slaves but then we don't believe your story. On the other hand you DO believe this story and haven't yet made yourself 'free' and proved it to the world. This seems a strange and puzzling contradiction.

Why are you not a freeman if you believe this?
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But you admit you are a slave. You admit that you are serving the 'government' and not vice-versa. You admit that you never examine the law. You admit you are in total ignorance of corporate government (a corporate government which runs even the legal industry). You admit that politicians are a bunch of rogues. You admit that the entire system is heading towards slavery. None of this is disputed by you.

And why is this so ? It has to do with the fact that you do not know what law is. You honestly have no idea. Read your own Constitution.

You receive a bill and you dutifully pay it. You never question its lawfulness. You don't want to be a free man. Because a free man is a man who abides by the law. With the power of consent. With his own personal sovereignty. In complete conformity to the law and good government.

I am a free man.
 
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So, in other words, you're a tax evader and someone who doesn't pay his/her bills?

That's what you're implying, you know.
 
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Can you provide a link to the text of the UK constitution so we can read it?
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Good question ! The 'UK' Constitution is really an invention of the legal industry, the feudal monarchy, the corporate lawyers, the elite land 'owners', and the slaves themselves who, after they are elected as members of parliament by the people immediately forsake them, swearing an oath instead to her unelected Brittanic Majesty, after which time they may sit in the House of Parliament making lots of 'laws' (so-called) which are in actual fact Statutes. Statutes which are binding on the population (although they do not know it) only with their consent. Statutes regulated by commercial law in corporate law courts. The 'text' of the constitution is so wrapped in legalese that it requires a hotel room full of gurus, experts and corporate feudalists to tell you what it is ! Some of it is not even written down. And thus, the myth is allowed to continue.

Since the law of the land has nothing to do with that 'system'. The law of the land is the Common Law of England.

So asking for the 'text' of the UK constitution is like asking for a definition of papal infallibility.

Ask a Roman Catholic what he believes in and he will offer you the bible PLUS his traditions. It's the same trick.
 
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You avoided the question as I suspected you would

Right back at you, why aren't you following your own 'prescription'.

Puzzling isn't it?
 
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I have a quick question for the freeman.
How do you travel abroad?because the name on the passport is capital letters,in freeman land that means that passport belongs to someones legal fiction,and because they refuse to consent to representing thier legal fiction they also cannot use thier passports,right?
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Her Brittanic Majesty has declared that you and I, as SUBJECTS of her regime, may travel without let or hinderance to other countries, subject to blah, blah, blah.

Thus granting you and I a freedom we already had since time immemorial.
 
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