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It's madness. He's claiming that it should have been Congress, not the individual states, as far as I can see, but that cuts across his own links.

But cut him some slack, if he's refusing to use the roads or public transport because he didn't agree to them, then he's stuck inside with nothing to do. He certainly can't watch the telly, given his previous comments.....
 
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Er, how about these facts - the 16th Amendment of the USA Constitution - from Bill Benson -

http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/home.asp

On January 10, 2008, the Federal District Court in Chicago issued a permanent injunction against me on the grounds that I was falsely telling people the 16th Amendment was not ratified. The Court refused to look at the evidence of the non-ratification of the 16th Amendment, deciding that the facts necessary to prove my statement was true were "irrelevant," What has America come to when the government can accuse you of lying and prohibit you from presenting a defense in a so called court of law? My attorney, Jeffrey A. Dickstein, will be filing an appeal to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals. I urge you to review the pleadings filed in this case so you can see for yourself the tyranny being practiced in our courts.

The Premise

The authority of the federal government to collect its income tax depends upon the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the federal income tax amendment, which was allegedly ratified in 1913. After a year of extensive research, Bill Benson discovered that the 16th Amendment was not ratified by the required 3/4 of the states, but nevertheless Secretary of State Philander Knox fraudulently announced ratification.



LISTEN TO THE BRILLIANCE OF ATTORNEY JEFFREY DICKSTEIN BEFORE THE 7TH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS, IN U.S. v BENSON. PASS IT ON!

30 minutes of fascinating audio, click here to listen.

READ THE LATEST FROM JEFFREY DICKSTEIN'S BRILLIANCE
We're finally headed for the Supreme Court of the United States. Read about it by clicking here and scrolling down to the 10th paragraph.

INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE ARE JOINING OUR RANKS
A former civil court judge has found our project and wants to help. Click here to read his supporting comments.

SHERRY JACKSON CONVICTED, UNDER WHAT LAW?
Sherry Jackson convicted, click here for the full story.

CHECK OUT ALL THESE TAX CHEATS!
Talk about the tax cheats and tax protestors. Here they are—read and ask questions, write to these departments to find out why they believe that they are above the law. Click here for the list!

ALL OF THE BRIEFS FILED IN THE BENSON CASE!
Check out Jeffrey A Dickstein's website and make a donation for the on going historic litigation in Federal Court in Chicago, IL. www.JeffDickstein.com.

THE NEW BRIEF—BENSON'S REPLY. READ THE LATEST!
Jeffrey A Dickstein, counsel for Bill Benson, submits Benson's reply to the government's brief in opposition to his motion to strike. Read the brief by clicking here.

THE BRIEF—BENSON'S MOVE TO STRIKE!
Jeffrey A Dickstein, counsel for Bill Benson, submits a new brief to strike down key government responses. Read the brief by clicking here.

THE BRIEF—LOCAL RULE 56.1
The Government responds to Bill Benson's Local Rule 56.1
Statement of Material Facts. Read the brief by clicking here.

THE BRIEF—LOCAL RULE 56
Benson’s points and authorities in support of his
motion to strike and motion to have facts deemed admitted.
Read the brief by clicking here.

THE BRIEF—THE GOVERNMENT RESPONSE
Read the brief by clicking here.

THE ARTICLE—THE JUDGE!
Devvy Kidd writes how the Judge in the Benson case ignores the Seventh Circuit Ruling. Read the news article by clicking here.

THE BRIEF—THE LAW OF OPPOSITION.
Jeffrey A Dickstein, counsel for Bill Benson, submits his memorandum of Law in Opposition to the United States. Read the brief by clicking here.

Click Here To Read More Briefs and Articles



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The Discovery

Article V of the U.S. Constitution specifies the ratification process, and requires 3/4 of the States to ratify any amendment proposed by Congress. There were 48 States in the American Union in 1913, meaning that affirmative action of 36 states was required for ratification. In February, 1913, Secretary of State Philander Knox issued a proclamation claiming that 38 states had ratified the amendment.

In 1984, William J. Benson began a research project, never before performed, to investigate the process of ratification of the 16th Amendment. After traveling to the capitols of the New England states, and reviewing the journals of the state legislative bodies, he saw that many states had not ratified the Amendment. Continuing his research at the National Archives in Washington, DC, Bill Benson discovered his Golden Key. This damning piece of evidence is a 16 page memorandum from the Solicitor of the Department of State, whose duty is the provision of legal opinions for the use of the Secretary of State. In this memorandum sent to the Secretary of State, the Solicitor of the Department of State lists the many errors he found in the ratification process!

The 4 states listed below are among the 38 states that Philander Knox claimed ratification from.

The Kentucky Senate voted upon the resolution, but rejected it by a vote of 9 in favor and 22 opposed.
The Oklahoma Senate amended the language of the 16th Amendment to have a precisely opposite meaning.
The California legislative assembly never recorded any vote upon any proposal to adopt the amendment proposed by Congress.
The State of Minnesota sent nothing to the Secretary of State in Washington.
When his year long project was finished at the end of 1984, Bill had visited every state capitol and knew that not a single state had actually and legally ratified the proposal to amend the Constitution. 33 states engaged in the unauthorized activity of amending the language of the amendment proposed by congress, a power the states do not possess. Since 36 states were needed for ratification, the failure of 13 to ratify would be fatal to the amendment, and this occurs within the major (first three) defects tabulated in Defects in Ratification of the 16th Amendment. Even if we were to ignore defects of spelling, capitalization, and punctuation, we would still have only 2 states which successfully ratified.


http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/home.asp

http://www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy20.htm

http://foro.univision.com/univision/board/message?board.id=noticiaspuertorico&message.id=95327#
 
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He's claiming that it should have been Congress, not the individual states, as far as I can see.

But cut him some slack, if he's refusing to use the roads or public transport because he didn't agree to them, then he's stuck inside with nothing to do. He certainly can't watch the telly, given his previous comments.....
It's not same thing? (congressionally speaking)
 
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Please, please, i keep reading the links he provides and my brain is spinning......


....the stupidity of these people is astounding!
 
Er, how about these facts - the 16th Amendment of the USA Constitution -

What, precisely and in your own words, leads you to think that the 16th Amendment was not ratified?

And if it was ratified tomorrow, how would you react?
 
OK, just produce the evidence that three fourths of the Congress ratified the 16th Amendment of the US Constitution when, in fact, they never did.

Congress does not ratify amendments. It proposes them which requires a two-thirds majority. You've already seen the document that shows that they got that. The ratification is a matter for the states.
 
How about this fact. These arguments have been before the courts on a number of occasions and found to be deficient.

Anyone taking the same path will be wrong for the same reasons. Anyone refusing to pay tax because of these 'reasons' will go to jail.
 
Can I ask... why did we go through all the "SHOW ME THE LAW!" nonsense, when your objection was not that a law did not exist, but that the constitutional amendment enabling the law was not properly ratified? Why did we go back and forward for pages when you could have explained your actual point of contention hours ago?
 
Let the readers here judge the case fairly having heard both sides of the evidence.

That's what American law stands for, right ? What are you afraid of ? There are good men who are telling you the truth. And there are liars who are not.

Form your own judgement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grjmnkj7LT4

Thank You and best wishes
 
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Can I ask... why did we go through all the "SHOW ME THE LAW!" nonsense, when your objection was not that a law did not exist, but that the constitutional amendment enabling the law was not properly ratified? Why did we go back and forward for pages when you could have explained your actual point of contention hours ago?

I thought that the law was a statute and required all of Congress to ratify it so we can choose a constitutional amendment?
 
Oh I dunno, this guy has been a comic from the beginning.




Did I say comic? Sorry, I mean liar. Someone ask him what bit of England he's from again.

I'd be shocked if he could even find England on a map.
His woo is almost exclusively US, and not even recent FOTL woo, but stuff that even the FOTLers no longer try (from what I can find, the 16th Amendment objection died in the late 90s - they've moved on).
 
Yes, but Especially doesn't need pesky facts any more than he needs to stand by his OP about England, the country we were to believe he hailed from.
 
They want to lead you round and round in circles. You are the judge. Judge for yourself -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grjmnkj7LT4

Is that ALL you do? You just watch clowns on YouTube and think that is research? Come on, Dude! Even I get out more than that! You can find more info if you use Google to search, instead of YouTube's search bar. YouTube is just a subset of Google's resources. There is a whole world out there just waiting to reveal itself to you!. Cornell University sponsors a law site that even explains all this stuff in plain English so you don't have to consort with demons to get the special blood that lets you interpret legalese.
 
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