ElMondoHummus
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I'll let others discuss this misuse of NFPA 921, but do a search in this forum for that term. In short, it's improper to cite it here.
And let's also remember that chemical testing for explosives has the strong potential to be inconclusive. How would there be any chance of distinguishing between explosives remains and naturally occuring organic materials combustoin residue from the fires themselves?
Furthermore, explosives are contradicted for other reasons. See links above, and search this forum for past threads.
Is it also characterized by extremely loud sounds that would have the effect of shattering glass for blocks around - recall, a common preparatory procedure for actual explosives demolitions is to board up or otherwise protect (or remove) glass in neighboring buildings. Look at pictures of the Winter Garden's building across the street from the WTC complex for proof that no explosions occurred; what windows were broken were from falling debris. Explosions strong enough to drop the towers would have shattered all that glass.
Furthermore, it is a practice to remove people from the area in order to prevent injury from flying debris as well as barotrauma. For the latter, I've not found any studies indicating any numbers of barotraumatic injuries consistent with an explosion of even the size of the Madrid bombings or Israeli bus bombings, let alone for something as large what would be required for collapsing the Twin Towers, or even just 7 World Trade.
On top of that, you need to study the failure modes for the recovered steel components in NCSTAR 1-3C. None of them are consistent with explosives or incendiaries use.
If you study the legitimate research on nanothermite, you'll see that it's explosive properties are on the microscopic scale. For example, to force drugs past cell membranes. Or to achieve some result in the manufacture of microchips. Stating that nanothermite has high order explosive ability on the magnitude claimed here is unsupported.
On top of that, as pointed out earlier, all evidence contradicts the presence of explosives.
NIST:
"Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues?" . . ."NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel."
-- NIST Responses to FAQs, August 2006
In follow-up to this response NIST spokesperson Michael Neuman was challenged by Hartford Advocate reporter Jennifer Abel on this glaring omission in the WTC report
ABEL: … what about that letter where NIST said it didn’t look for evidence of explosives?
NEUMAN: Right, because there was no evidence of that.
ABEL: But how can you know there’s no evidence if you don’t look for it first?
NEUMAN: If you’re looking for something that isn’t there, you’re wasting your time….and the taxpayers money."
This omission is at odds with the requirement of the national standard for fire investigation (NFPA 921), which calls for testing related to thermite and other pyrotechnics. It is also at odds with the video evidence of explosions, and the testimony of fire department personnel, more than 100 of whom officially reported hearing or seeing explosions. NIST also failed to explain the source of large quantities of molten metal in the WTC rubble, or the abundant amounts of iron microspheres in the dust.
I'll let others discuss this misuse of NFPA 921, but do a search in this forum for that term. In short, it's improper to cite it here.
And let's also remember that chemical testing for explosives has the strong potential to be inconclusive. How would there be any chance of distinguishing between explosives remains and naturally occuring organic materials combustoin residue from the fires themselves?
Furthermore, explosives are contradicted for other reasons. See links above, and search this forum for past threads.
NIST, as a matter of routine, should have tested the WTC dust for residue of explosives, such as nanothermite. The Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations put out by the National Fire Protection Association says that a search for evidence for explosives should be undertaken whenever there has been “high-order damage.” Leaving no doubt about the meaning of this term, the Guide says:
High-order damage is characterized by shattering of the structure, producing small, pulverized debris. Walls, roofs, and structural members are splintered or shattered, with the building completely demolished. [27]
Is it also characterized by extremely loud sounds that would have the effect of shattering glass for blocks around - recall, a common preparatory procedure for actual explosives demolitions is to board up or otherwise protect (or remove) glass in neighboring buildings. Look at pictures of the Winter Garden's building across the street from the WTC complex for proof that no explosions occurred; what windows were broken were from falling debris. Explosions strong enough to drop the towers would have shattered all that glass.
Furthermore, it is a practice to remove people from the area in order to prevent injury from flying debris as well as barotrauma. For the latter, I've not found any studies indicating any numbers of barotraumatic injuries consistent with an explosion of even the size of the Madrid bombings or Israeli bus bombings, let alone for something as large what would be required for collapsing the Twin Towers, or even just 7 World Trade.
On top of that, you need to study the failure modes for the recovered steel components in NCSTAR 1-3C. None of them are consistent with explosives or incendiaries use.
That description applied to the destruction of the Twin Towers and WTC 7. The next sentence – “Debris is thrown great distances, possibly hundreds of feet” – applied to the destruction of the Twin Towers, a fact that NIST had to admit in order to explain how fires were started in WTC 7. [28] So NIST should have looked for signs of explosives, such as nanothermite.
*last bit from, http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/98195547/scientists-find-explosives-in-world-trade-center-dust
just for a start.
If you study the legitimate research on nanothermite, you'll see that it's explosive properties are on the microscopic scale. For example, to force drugs past cell membranes. Or to achieve some result in the manufacture of microchips. Stating that nanothermite has high order explosive ability on the magnitude claimed here is unsupported.
On top of that, as pointed out earlier, all evidence contradicts the presence of explosives.
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