The PG Film - Bob Heironimus and Patty

[Skeptical Greg]

Does anyone know if Bob Heironimus is still going with this version of his 'Patty story'?...

Quote:
Bob Heironimus is also quoted, saying that Patterson made the suit himself by skinning a dead horse and gluing fur from an old fur coat on the horsehide. It was in three parts, head, torso and legs that felt like bigger rubber boots and that went to his waist. He thought the feet were made of old house slippers. The suit weighted 20 or 25 pounds and he needed help to get in and out of it. It also smelled bad. "It stunk. Roger skinned out a dead, red horse."

Because, if he is...that will pretty much prove that he wasn't Patty.

I'll explain why I say that, at a later date.

Don't waste your time ..
It has been noted a thousand times, that BH never had any first hand information that the suit was made from horse hide...

 

[kitakaze]

Does anyone know if Bob Heironimus is still going with this version of his 'Patty story'?...

Because, if he is...that will pretty much prove that he wasn't Patty.

I'll explain why I say that, at a later date.

Sweaty, why, oh why, oh why do you do this? If you don't have the time to coherently form your thoughts in a post and properly explain what you're trying to get at, why don't you spare us the fluff and properly explain whatever gobbledy-gook you have in your head when you actually have the time and attention span to do it right?

It's very lame.

 

[kitakaze]

I think we should analyse the evidence...rather than just throw it away.

Hey, that's great! Let's do that. Let's analyze and do important stuff. Could you do some of that analyzing on post #2095 and let us know what's going on with Patty's physics defying head? You know, because if Patty's head is not actually morphing from conehead to Andy Capp, then we seem to have a problem with the film.

 

[GT/CS]

It's a shame that guests to this site come here looking for intelligent discussion regarding bigfoot but instead they are exposed to thread after thread, and page after mind-numbing page, of this nonsense.

Who would have ever thought the JREF would allow itself to be pulled down to this level?

Kit, this will probably show up after your post but it is not adressed to you.

 

[kitakaze]

It's a shame that guests to this site come here looking for intelligent discussion regarding bigfoot but instead they are exposed to thread after thread, and page after mind-numbing page, of this nonsense.

Who would have ever thought the JREF would allow itself to be pulled down to this level?

Kit, this will probably show up after your post but it is not adressed to you.

No, but I should certainly take it to heart, as well. I want to have a lively discussion about whether or not Bob Heironimus was Patty. I want to do it with intelligent people who are intellectually honest. Give me like an Odinn or like a Teresa Hall or somebody like that. You know, somebody who is smart and not afraid or prideful to recognize and abandon flawed arguments.

You know, those silly, just plain wrong things like Patty has inhuman proportions. Like, her arms are inhumanly long or that sort of blather that a 9 year old could look at and know to be wrong. Oh my dear goodness, it's September 2009 and we're still dealing with denial from Sweaty. I can't believe the stuff he quibbles. It really almost impresses me how adamant that old boy can be about staying firmly like this...



You couldn't pull his head out with a tractor. He says Patty's arms are inhumanly long and you lay the same skeleton over Bob and Patty, showing a pretty good overall match, and what does the fellow do? Maybe like, a "Hmm... Turns out I was a little off there"? Nope. Those aren't the same skeletons. You're tricking me. It's a hoax, you hoaxer. Prove you're not tricking me. Prove those skeletons are the same.

OK, Sweaty. Here's a pretty animation showing one skeleton becoming the other. See? They're the same.

It's morphing. They're morphing. You're tricking me. Something's tricking me. It can't be real. Show me a physical object doing that. The computer is tricking me...

Ugh... *groan* 1000 facepalms... Jean-Luc, Will, Ben, get in there. Where's Janeway? We need a little Janeway. Do you know it's going to be like, 2029 and there are going to be Jetsons cars flying outside and a 70 year old SweatyYeti is going to be denying Bob Gimlin long ago having admitted Bob H was Patty. He'll have his teeth out and be shouting to no one in particular, "You haven't fooled me, Heironimus! You payed Gimlin, you bastard! You won't fool meee!!!" *hack* *cough* *wheeze* *take a hit off the oxygen tank* It would go on and on, just like that. Sweaty could talk to his little windmill slat on a post thing. That is who he could have for company to listen to his rants. Can the windmill type? Can it work the colours and the all-caps?

No, we will be looking at extraordinary fanatical behaviour from our dear Sweaty for some time. If I get to meet Bob H, and measure him up and down, and he answers all sorts of clever questions designed to mess him up, and everything looks OK, still our dear Sweaty will be in denial.

Bless our dear old Sweaty.

 

[SweatyYeti]

Don't waste your time ..
It has been noted a thousand times, that BH never had any first hand information that the suit was made from horse hide...

Thanks for the info, Greg.
I'll have to do some searching to find out exactly how he described the "suit".




kitakaze wrote:

If you don't have the time to coherently form your thoughts in a post and properly explain what you're trying to get at, why don't you spare us the fluff and properly explain whatever gobbledy-gook you have in your head when you actually have the time and attention span to do it right?

Sorry, kittles.....but it's a FREE world.....not a KAZE world.

I'll say whatever I feel like saying, in my posts...(within the rules, hopefully)......whenever I feel like saying them.


OH LOOK!!! It's FLUFF-ernutter time!!!!

I did a quick search for Heironimus' descriptions of the "suit", and found this exchange on the first page of this thread...

Kilaak Kommander...

"On a different note, if the PGF depicts a man in a suit, what do you think of the FIT of the suit?

It doesn't look like an ill-fitting suit. There are no obvious loose bits, and it's not bursting at the seams.

Yet Bob Heironimus doesn't indicate that the suit was custom tailored to fit him. He pretty much just put it on over his street clothes and went for a walk.

There's something not quite right about that. How would it fit so well?"



William Parcher...

"BH says that he first tried on the costume at Patterson's house.

It was there that Roger made some adjustments to the fit.

He may have made more permanent adjustments after BH left, as would a tailor fitting a new suit after purchase at a clothing store."


Kilaak Kommander...


"A lot if it comes down to how adaptable a padded suit is. I need to dig up the link to the professional rental suit that was posted a few times in the "big thread". It had a suggested range of heights for the wearer, but there was definitely some leeway.

But then if Roger did make adjustments to the suit, that takes a bit of steam out of the "professional suit" theory, although minor tweaks are within reason.
I'm a bit more sold on it being a pro suit than on BH being the guy inside it."

Kilaak made a very good observation there, about how well the alleged 'suit' appears to fit Bob.

I highlighted, with the larger lettering, statements which relate to the discrepancy between Bob's descriptions of the "suit"....and certain aspects of the alleged "suit"......some (aspects) of which are clearly visible, and some of which can be deduced from Patty's body dimensions.


More.................later...........kitakaze, and his Flames, notwithstanding.

 

[SweatyYeti]

Hey, kitty......sorry to burst your little Bob Bubble.....but things that Bob has said about the alleged suit, and has not said about the alleged suit....will show, conclusively, that Bob weren't never inside of a "Patty suit".

 

[kitakaze]

I did a quick search for Heironimus' descriptions of the "suit", and found this exchange on the first page of this thread...

I had a harder time thinking which shoes to wear today than seeing the flaws in your post.

*yawn*

1) Kilaak's opinion that the suit fits so well is objective. Many people feel the suit looks like it fits quite badly. Diaper butt, saggy arms, crazy thighs, and weird legs are some examples of areas where people see an ill-fitting suit.

Oops for you.

2) Did Heironimus not indicate that there was any effort by Patterson to customize the suit for him? Huh. Well, as WP noted, Bob did say Patterson had him over to try on the suit (and that Patricia saw him in the suit). Why would he do that? Could it be to see how it fit and what adjustments needed to be made? Am I nine years old?

Oops for you.

3) Bob never said there wasn't padding.

Oops for you.

FAIL. Next.

 

[kitakaze]

Hey, kitty......sorry to burst your little Bob Bubble.....but things that Bob has said about the alleged suit, and has not said about the alleged suit....will show, conclusively, that Bob weren't never inside of a "Patty suit".

Good luck with that.

Hope it's better than the fluff of yours right above that I just blew away.

 

[SweatyYeti]

Just about everything you said in your earlier post, #2105, was a twisted version of the truth, kitz.


Here is just one of those twists.....distortions.....falsehoods....."kitty-droppings"...


kitakaze wrote:

You know, those silly, just plain wrong things like Patty has inhuman proportions.

Here, instead, is the truth.....(reality)......Patty's inhumanly wide upper-body...

And then there is Patty's extreme upper-body depth, front-to-back....(images, later).....and, of course.....her exceptionally looooooooooooong arms.



kitakaze wrote...

Good luck with that.

Thanks.....I won't need it. I have images on my side.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Patty's inhumanly wide upper-body...

And then there is Patty's extreme upper-body depth, front-to-back..

Why are either of those a problem for a suit ?

Besides; are you saying this guy isn't human ?

P.S

Nice composite showing Patty about as tall as BH ..
No 7'4" nonsense there...

 

[LTC8K6]

The problem for footers with that image of Patty, is that image of Patty.

Just look at that awful suit! Baggy, droopy, obvious seams, baggy pants legs, etc.

Look at that shoulder line and that baggy right calf area! Look at that droopy diaper butt! Look at that wrist area! Look at that left foot!

You can also use Patty's supposed known foot dimensions to do a little measuring for yourself. You can check how inhumanly wide Patty is, or isn't, for example.

 

[Astrophotographer]

Here, instead, is the truth.....(reality)......Patty's inhumanly wide upper-body...

And then there is Patty's extreme upper-body depth, front-to-back....(images, later).....and, of course.....her exceptionally looooooooooooong arms.

Stop throwing stones. You keep hitting your own little glass house. I don't think there are any panes left! Now you are just hitting everything inside.

Feel free to add substance to those claims. Give us some real measurements because the measurements show the arms are not too long. If you have an ACTUAL measurement that shows this is not so, present it. So far you have refused to do so. All you do is present these invalid comparison images that are not scaled correctly in order to "pull a fast one".

Additionally, feel free to provide us with a high resolution image that shows definitively that the "massive" body is too huge to be a suit. The crude measurements I made on that really blurry image does not reveal anything that could not be done by a suit.

 

[Vortigern99]

 

[SweatyYeti]

Skeptical Greg wrote:

Nice composite showing Patty about as tall as BH ..
No 7'4" nonsense there...

To a degree....I agree. I think that Patty's walking height is in the range of 6'1" - 6'5"....with a standing height of a few inches taller.

Edited to add....with a body width approx. equal to a Barn Door. (Something the Fric and Frac skeletal animation failed to take into account........rendering it hopelessly inaccurate......perhaps even 'Invalid"!) )

 

[Astrophotographer]

Edited to add....with a body width approx. equal to a Barn Door.

How wide is a barn door? Then tell us how you measured this value on Bunny?

 

[SweatyYeti]

This padded-suit doesn't actually add any extra width to the guy's chest....hence, his arms can hang down straight...

This guy's padding.......Lard.....a.k.a....."Essence-of-Donut"....does add width to his chest/upper torso/hips/hind end/legs/etc...

.....thereby forcing his arms out at an angle.


Patty's arms.....don't have that problem...

 

[GT/CS]

This padded-suit doesn't actually add any extra width to the guy's chest....hence, his arms can hang down straight...

[qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Fun/PaddedSuit1lined.jpg[/qimg]



This guy's padding.......Lard.....a.k.a....."Essence-of-Donut"....does add width to his chest/upper torso/hips/hind end/legs/etc...


[qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Fun/fat_guy2.jpg[/qimg]

.....thereby forcing his arms out at an angle.


Patty's arms.....don't have that problem...


[qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Patty%20and%20Bob/RogerPatty2.jpg[/qimg]




[qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Fun/CrapAG1.gif[/qimg]

It's obvious you've never played football.

Go suit up then get back to us on the arm hanging straight down issue.

 

[kitakaze]

Here, instead, is the truth.....(reality)......Patty's inhumanly wide upper-body...

Inches/cm?

And then there is Patty's extreme upper-body depth, front-to-back....(images, later)

Inches/cm?

.....and, of course.....her exceptionally looooooooooooong arms.

Inches/cm?

Thanks.....I won't need it. I have images on my side.

For joy, images. Yay. I love images. Have any reliable measurements? Numbers? Like, Patty's shoulders are X cm's wide and thus X % out of human range. No?

Here you go, a rain of pain. BTW, I have images, too. Here's one just for you...

I've given it to you before, but you like to forget. Trauma can do that.

 

[SweatyYeti]

kitakaze wrote:

Have any reliable measurements? Numbers?

Not yet....but I will.

Eventually, I'll have an actual re-construction of Patty's distinctively styled, and massive upper-body, also.