Merged National Geographic Special - "9/11 Science and Conspiracy" Debunks Thermite Myth

walkyrie said:
National geographic is givin apologizes in the next new program about the distorsions about the reality in the first national geographic report , they have made mistakes and lies like were in the FEMA and The NIST reports , obviously the FEMA and NIST reports are plagued with lies because the FEMA and NIST reports have conflict interest with the reality and the truth about what really happened the 9/11 , the money in the pocket of the FEMA and NIST workers depend if they are able to destroy the evidence of controlled demolition of 9/11 , if they tell the truth the bush administration dont give anymore money to them
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waterwater?
 
triforcharity said:
It is!! That thing is great!! I have been hiding it behind the monitor, and that gets old!! I never thought that something was available.
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Some anti-virus and spyware software may consider it a key logger (it is, but not the bad kind AFAIK). You might have to make an exception for it in those pieces of software.

Derail completed, and now we return you to our previously scheduled program.
 
walkyrie said:
Now is just about to start the trial about torture ,I hope the bush administration officials cheney yoo etc etc will receive justice in the judicial examination , before the jury send them to prison or the electric chair

later this bush officials will also need to face respond and be accountable to other crimes related to 9/11 and the WMD
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Who the **** is 'Cheney Yoo'? If he's anything like Tony Jaa I wouldn't want to mess with him.
 
WildCat said:
What ever gave you that idea? RedIbis thinks that everyone who responded to the Pentagon crash site is in on it, as well as all those who were involved in the chain of custody of the Flight 77 passenger and crew remains as well as those who identified those remains by using DNA.
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I must have confused him with someone else....but I'm racking my brain and I cant think of a truther we've had here who I'd classify as one of the "saner voices" in the 911 movement. Maybe they all left? :con2:
 
walkyrie said:
Now is just about to start the trial about torture ,I hope the bush administration officials cheney yoo etc etc will receive justice in the judicial examination , before the jury send them to prison or the electric chair

later this bush officials will also need to face respond and be accountable to other crimes related to 9/11 and the WMD
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Is babelfish your family name?
 
walkyrie said:
National geographic is givin apologizes in the next new program about the distorsions about the reality in the first national geographic report , they have made mistakes and lies like were in the FEMA and The NIST reports , obviously the FEMA and NIST reports are plagued with lies because the FEMA and NIST reports have conflict interest with the reality and the truth about what really happened the 9/11 , the money in the pocket of the FEMA and NIST workers depend if they are able to destroy the evidence of controlled demolition of 9/11 , if they tell the truth the bush administration dont give anymore money to them
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oh my
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Does anyone know where and how to get the 9/11 special: Science and Conspiracy? I'd like to watch it :)

Thanks in advance :)

McHrozni
 
walkyrie said:
National geographic is givin apologizes in the next new program about the distorsions about the reality in the first national geographic report , they have made mistakes and lies like were in the FEMA and The NIST reports , obviously the FEMA and NIST reports are plagued with lies because the FEMA and NIST reports have conflict interest with the reality and the truth about what really happened the 9/11 , the money in the pocket of the FEMA and NIST workers depend if they are able to destroy the evidence of controlled demolition of 9/11 , if they tell the truth the bush administration dont give anymore money to them
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Hello from Earth! How's the weather out there?
 
walkyrie said:
National geographic is givin apologizes in the next new program about the distorsions about the reality in the first national geographic report , they have made mistakes and lies like were in the FEMA and The NIST reports , obviously the FEMA and NIST reports are plagued with lies because the FEMA and NIST reports have conflict interest with the reality and the truth about what really happened the 9/11 , the money in the pocket of the FEMA and NIST workers depend if they are able to destroy the evidence of controlled demolition of 9/11 , if they tell the truth the bush administration dont give anymore money to them
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Walkyrie Texas Deranger?

So sad to see such a thing being typed in 2009. Will it never end?
 
Absolute Proof of demolitions

The top section of the south tower begins to topple due to the localized structural damage, to an angle of about 23 degrees. Basic physics shows that the shift in centre of mass due to the angle means that any torque imparted by gravitational pressure on the lower section accelerates the rotation. The base of the top section acting as a fulcrum. Thus the more gravitational pressure the top section provides, the more toppling would occur. Shills have lamely suggested that the collapsing of columns absorbs the angular momentum, but the top section is still at a 23 degree angle thus any resistance the lower section offers contributes to the rotation via torque at the fulcrum point due to the angle and shifted centre of mass.
Thus the cessation of toppling proves that the top section encountered no resistance which discounts the theory of gravity induced collapse.
 
SabreTruthTiger said:
Absolute Proof of demolitions
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... no.

Here's a clue: Thousands of first-class academics, scientists, and engineers have looked at the collapses in depth. If there's anything "wrong" with it, it won't be a qualitative argument from elementary-school physics. Try harder.

SabreTruthTiger said:
The top section of the south tower begins to topple due to the localized structural damage, to an angle of about 23 degrees. Basic physics shows that the shift in centre of mass due to the angle means that any torque imparted by gravitational pressure on the lower section accelerates the rotation. The base of the top section acting as a fulcrum. Thus the more gravitational pressure the top section provides, the more toppling would occur.
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The "fulcrum" survives for approximately 0.5 seconds, and then is crushed. At that point there is no "torque imparted by gravitational pressure," whatever that's supposed to mean.

SabreTruthTiger said:
Shills have lamely suggested that the collapsing of columns absorbs the angular momentum, but the top section is still at a 23 degree angle thus any resistance the lower section offers contributes to the rotation via torque at the fulcrum point due to the angle and shifted centre of mass.
Thus the cessation of toppling proves that the top section encountered no resistance which discounts the theory of gravity induced collapse.
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"Shills," huh. Guess what, when you accuse your critics of being party to the conspiracy, you basically out yourself as a hard-core conspiracy theorist.

I provided a better explanation of the rotational behavior of the WTC 2 top (WTC 1 did not approach this angle) in my whitepaper, pp. 92-93, 104-105, and 250-255. This has been out for years, and nobody in your camp has found a problem with it yet, so happy reading.
 
R.Mackey said:
... no.

Here's a clue: Thousands of first-class academics, scientists, and engineers have looked at the collapses in depth. If there's anything "wrong" with it, it won't be a qualitative argument from elementary-school physics. Try harder.



The "fulcrum" survives for approximately 0.5 seconds, and then is crushed. At that point there is no "torque imparted by gravitational pressure," whatever that's supposed to mean.



"Shills," huh. Guess what, when you accuse your critics of being party to the conspiracy, you basically out yourself as a hard-core conspiracy theorist.

I provided a better explanation of the rotational behavior of the WTC 2 top (WTC 1 did not approach this angle) in my whitepaper, pp. 92-93, 104-105, and 250-255. This has been out for years, and nobody in your camp has found a problem with it yet, so happy reading.
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Completely fallacious. The fulcrum doesn't disappear, the entire end or base of the top section is the fulcrum no matter what shape it's in, the fact is the centre of mass is offest from the fulcrum point which means that any pressure against the base of the top section would add torque causing the mass to topple. In order for the mass to apply it's weight to evenly collapse the building, the centre of mass must be directly over the lower section. This is basic and irrefutable.

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SabreTruthTiger said:
Absolute Proof of demolitions

The top section of the south tower begins to topple due to the localized structural damage, to an angle of about 23 degrees. Basic physics shows that the shift in centre of mass due to the angle means that any torque imparted by gravitational pressure on the lower section accelerates the rotation. The base of the top section acting as a fulcrum. Thus the more gravitational pressure the top section provides, the more toppling would occur. Shills have lamely suggested that the collapsing of columns absorbs the angular momentum, but the top section is still at a 23 degree angle thus any resistance the lower section offers contributes to the rotation via torque at the fulcrum point due to the angle and shifted centre of mass.
Thus the cessation of toppling proves that the top section encountered no resistance which discounts the theory of gravity induced collapse.
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I think you're onto something! The shift in centre of mass contributes to the rotation via torque as the angular momentum acts as gravitational pressure on the fulcrum of the acceleration, much as the centre of torque contributes to the centre of mass via the gravitational pressure on the angular momentum.

Have I got that right?:D
 
SabreTruthTiger said:
Completely fallacious. The fulcrum doesn't disappear, the entire end or base of the top section is the fulcrum no matter what shape it's in, the fact is the centre of mass is offest from the fulcrum point which means that any pressure against the base of the top section would add torque causing the mass to topple. In order for the mass to apply it's weight to evenly collapse the building, the centre of mass must be directly over the lower section. This is basic and irrefutable.
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No.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97491
 
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