Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

[Dave Rogers]

The plane flying through the building is the authentic footage Dave. You know it, i know it and so do the posters who have confirmed it here in recent posts.

Please link to those posts. Highlight the bits that confirm that the Chopper 5 footage was broadcast live on FOX News, rather than simply that it is authentic footage (which no-one is denying).

Dave

 

[bill smith]

Please link to those posts. Highlight the bits that confirm that the Chopper 5 footage was broadcast live on FOX News, rather than simply that it is authentic footage (which no-one is denying).

Dave

Like I said Dave- I will not dance the debunker two-step with you. Deny it all you want. Check those posts yourself....others will.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Like I said Dave- I will not dance the debunker two-step with you. Deny it all you want. Check those posts yourself....others will.

OK, so I'll assume you admit you can't prove that the Chopper 5 footage was broadcast live and that the footage on the archive site has since been substituted by FOX. That's about par for the course for your claims.

Oh, and according to the RedIbis gold standard, your story has now been exposed as a fabrication.

Dave

ETA: By the way, I checked back over the thread, and, surprise surprise, there are no posts saying what bill says they say. Triforcharity and A. W. Smith both agreed that the footage is genuine. Nobody's confirmed that it was broadcast live at 9:02 on 9/11. Therefore, nobody is agreeing that the archive footage has been altered.

 

[bill smith]

OK, so I'll assume you admit you can't prove that the Chopper 5 footage was broadcast live and that the footage on the archive site has since been substituted by FOX. That's about par for the course for your claims.

Oh, and according to the RedIbis gold standard, your story has now been exposed as a fabrication.

Dave

ETA: By the way, I checked back over the thread, and, surprise surprise, there are no posts saying what bill says they say. Triforcharity and A. W. Smith both agreed that the footage is genuine. Nobody's confirmed that it was broadcast live at 9:02 on 9/11. Therefore, nobody is agreeing that the archive footage has been altered.

Have it your own way Dave. It makes no difference to me.

 

[RedIbis]

Oh, and according to the RedIbis gold standard, your story has now been exposed as a fabrication.

Crossthread taunting is a sure sign I'm in your head.

 

[RedIbis]

If you don't, then according to the RedIbis criterion it's a proven lie.

Dave

Crossthread taunting is a sure sign I'm in your head.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Crossthread taunting is a sure sign I'm in your head.

If that's all you wanted, then rest assured I have noticed your existence. You can stop making up fantasies about 9/11 now.

If it wasn't about attention-seeking, why is attention such a big deal that you have to double post about it?

Dave

 

[TruthersLie]

Why is it that Bill S dodges these videos which completely destroy his nose in/nose out crapola?

Come on billy girl, these videos completely destroy your argument.

since I only see Bill S's idiocy when others quote him.

nose in engine out


Plane impacts real or fake (from a TRUTHER)


The great nose in nose out HOAX (FROM A TRUTHER)


September Clues BUSTEd (by a truther)

 

[RedIbis]

If that's all you wanted, then rest assured I have noticed your existence. You can stop making up fantasies about 9/11 now.

If it wasn't about attention-seeking, why is attention such a big deal that you have to double post about it?

Dave

You double taunted.

 

[WildCat]

You double taunted.

So Red, how did the remains of the Flight 77 passengers and crew get inside the Pentagon on 9/11? How is it all those remains were identified through DNA?

Now fly away little birdie.

 

[tsig]

You double taunted.

DNA, Red because informed people want to know.

 

[240-185]

I was thinking about something... For the crazy people who thinks that 7 hijackers are still alive.

"Officially", we know that there were 19 hijackers splitted into 4 groups: 5 + 5 + 5 + 4.
That means at best, that effectively, one group did not board into a plane, but also that 2 or 3 hijackers managed to get out of the plane, letting their companions crashing into their target, without anyone noticing they escaped from the plane where they were!

Why don't twoofers THINK about their woo'ed claims?

 

[beachnut]

Here's a little talking point. Incidentally the nose of the plane did appear to go through the building on 9/11. I saw it myself on TV on the day. Does anybody else confirm that ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cvWwIxMbmE Jeff Hill cameraman chopper 5

It was debris exiting the building. But you like to spread lies and post delusions. You post lies about 911.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnyC_zr4igg Oops the plane did not go through the WTC. The fiberglass nose cone did come out the other side. The nose cone is made of fiberglass/plastic like material for a reason; ... Are you really this gullible?

How does this support your delusions on 911? What is your point? Why have you failed to make progress on 911?

 

[Grizzly Bear]

So Red, how did the remains of the Flight 77 passengers and crew get inside the Pentagon on 9/11? How is it all those remains were identified through DNA?

Now fly away little birdie.

The DNA issue... the whole 10 month old analogy contradiction issue.... he's proven he could pretty much ignore questions from even the most patient of his peers

 

[RedIbis]

The DNA issue... the whole 10 month old analogy contradiction issue.... he's proven he could pretty much ignore questions from even the most patient of his peers

Reports of passenger DNA in the Pentagon does not prove that it was Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon. We've been through this in other threads hundreds of posts at a time.

If you are unable to conjure up ways in which the DNA could be reported without it being 77 at the site, that failure of imagination is not my responsibility.

In short, DNA evidence is compelling and important, but you cannot conclude that it definitively proves the existence of 77 at the Pentagon.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Passengers are the ones sitting in the plane... This is the case in every other plane crash, and for that matter every single commercial flight. Unless you're compelled to argue that you got evidence the passengers were disposed of elsewhere, your conjecture is rejected

 

[dafydd]

I was thinking about something... For the crazy people who thinks that 7 hijackers are still alive.

"Officially", we know that there were 19 hijackers splitted into 4 groups: 5 + 5 + 5 + 4.
That means at best, that effectively, one group did not board into a plane, but also that 2 or 3 hijackers managed to get out of the plane, letting their companions crashing into their target, without anyone noticing they escaped from the plane where they were!

Why don't twoofers THINK about their woo'ed claims?

Are they capable of rational thought?

 

[Dave Rogers]

Reports of passenger DNA in the Pentagon does not prove that it was Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon.

Actually, yes it does. Flight 77 is not a physical entity; rather, it's a conceptual construct that has certain properties, including a starting and finishing point, a departure and arrival time, and the physical identity of an airliner that was used. One of the properties of Flight 77, which is unique to Flight 77, is the set of identities of the individuals on board. Since these individuals have been identified from DNA remains at the Pentagon does therefore prove, in the strictest philosophical sense, that it was indeed Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon. In other words, whatever it was that crashed into the Pentagon, it may reasonably be defined as Flight 77.

Dave

 

[Whiplash]

Passengers are the ones sitting in the plane... This is the case in every other plane crash, and for that matter every single commercial flight. Unless you're compelled to argue that you got evidence the passengers were disposed of elsewhere, your conjecture is rejected

Clearly the plane landed somewhere, the people were disembarked, killed, and then a missle hit the pentagon, and their remains (and appropriate plane debris) were then planted in the proper places to make it look like the plane crash was actually responsible.

Why not just crash the plane, with the people, I'll never know. Stupidest most over-complicated plot in history.

 

[beachnut]

Reports of passenger DNA in the Pentagon does not prove that it was Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon. We've been through this in other threads hundreds of posts at a time.

If you are unable to conjure up ways in which the DNA could be reported without it being 77 at the site, that failure of imagination is not my responsibility.

In short, DNA evidence is compelling and important, but you cannot conclude that it definitively proves the existence of 77 at the Pentagon.

What BAC level is required to believe your post?
DNA proves 77 impacted the Pentagon, but it takes the ability to use logic and evidence. You are either lacking logic and evidence, like to post delusions about 911, or are in complete ignorance on a broad ranged of subjects that are needed to comprehend the reality of 911.

Seems like the only people who will support your failed idea on DNA are OJ's first jury. Failure comes in many forms, you have made an art out of it.