Merged National Geographic Special - "9/11 Science and Conspiracy" Debunks Thermite Myth

Astute Perspicuous said:
How come they used the steel I Beam in a horizontal position instead of a vertical one?
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Because the collapse mechanism presented by NIST requires horizontal beams to sag - which they do, apperantly quite readily.

Do you have any more such indeed very simple questions?

McHrozni
 
TruthersLie said:
Ummm mr. retrograde.

picothermite is known as jalapenos... and they are in my "pico"nte sauce. :)

But it gets hotter than what twoofs have.

and NANO thermite sounds sooooo much scarier.
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Sounds like my Irish Grandma: Nan O'Thermite. Yeah she was a little scary.
 
Uh Oh!

AP has cracked the case wide open!

Might as well pack my bags for the FEMA camp and just let those bankers in to rummage through my sock drawer. The NG let us down and now the Truth is out there....

Oh wait, maybe AP has just shown once again why it is important to get an education. Good work Mr Perspicuous!!!!!
 
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Astute Perspicuous said:
I am just going to have to stick with the first test...the steel I beam bending under weight.

1. Simple question...

How come they used the steel I Beam in a horizontal position instead of a vertical one?

Answer; It would still be standing today, the fire long burned out, if it was in a vertical position with the weight on top.

Case closed.

Honestly, is this really the best they have now? The public will laugh at the obviousness of it all.
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I have not seen the particular film you talk about, but a steel I beam in the horizontal position, has an expected failiure temp of 620 degrees C, as opposed to 550 degrees C for a column, this is all dependant on load though, a greater load and the temp of failiure may fall below the design guidance safety recommendations, in such situations fireproofing is vital, and any damage to fireproofing can be fatal.
 
I love it when twoofs speak and show how ignorant they are.

what is this for you AP, the second thread you have started and gotten completely OWNED on before you make it out of the first page.

I fully expect to see you RUN AWAY like a ***** like you did in the other thread. (just like a twoof).
 
The National Geo special was lame. They could have destroyed the four frauds very easily with, for example, the DNA evidence at the Pentagon, and first responders, but they chose not to do so.

I can't say I blame them, mind you, because the victims families don't need to have that publicly aired just to rebut a group of dolts.
 
16.5 said:
The National Geo special was lame. They could have destroyed the four frauds very easily with, for example, the DNA evidence at the Pentagon, and first responders, but they chose not to do so.

I can't say I blame them, mind you, because the victims families don't need to have that publicly aired just to rebut a group of dolts.
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Yeah, it did seem like a "debunking for dummies" sort of approach, but considering most people just hear about 9/11 conspiracy in passing and don't give it much thought it's probably all that was needed for them.

To a skeptic, it wasn't enough. To a truther, nothing's going to convince them anyway. But to a passerby, anything after the experiment regarding "strawmen" and "irrelevance" just makes Avery, Gage and co. look like they're clinging to fantasies... which of course they are.
 
Drudgewire said:
Yeah, it did seem like a "debunking for dummies" sort of approach, but considering most people just hear about 9/11 conspiracy in passing and don't give it much thought it's probably all that was needed for them.

To a skeptic, it wasn't enough. To a truther, nothing's going to convince them anyway. But to a passerby, anything after the experiment regarding "strawmen" and "irrelevance" just makes Avery, Gage and co. look like they're clinging to fantasies... which of course they are.
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they should have really pulled the video of Gage with his box demo when he started crying like a baby about "scaling" lol
 
TruthersLie said:
I love it when twoofs speak and show how ignorant they are.

what is this for you AP, the second thread you have started and gotten completely OWNED on before you make it out of the first page.

I fully expect to see you RUN AWAY like a ***** like you did in the other thread. (just like a twoof).
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so he cant use a slide rule or a calendar lol
 
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Something that deserves to be shackled to the underside of a rock (on another planet in another galaxy) is what the TM is. What is the sense of exposing the 9/11 CT to the public on TV when nobody but the moronic members of the TM AND a few of the so called rational thinkers here think that it was a good idea? Realize that without this and the TV shows that will follow, the TM would not even be thought of by the public.
 
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~enigma~ said:
Something that deserves to be shackled to the underside of a rock (on another planet in another galaxy) is what the TM is. What is the sense of exposing the 9/11 CT to the public on TV when nobody but the moronic members of the TM AND a few of the so called rational thinkers here think that it was a good idea? Realize that without this and the TV shows that will follow, the TM would not even be thought of by the public.
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thats why it was on basic cable not NBC
 
Just because a column is vertical doesn't mean that the load is directly centered on the axis and there is no eccentric load to cause a bending moment in it. Duh.
 
Astute Perspicuous said:
I am just going to have to stick with the first test...the steel I beam bending under weight.

1. Simple question...

How come they used the steel I Beam in a horizontal position instead of a vertical one?

Answer; It would still be standing today, the fire long burned out, if it was in a vertical position with the weight on top.

Case closed.

Honestly, is this really the best they have now? The public will laugh at the obviousness of it all.
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"My God. You're like a trained ape. Without the training."
 
Well I am not an educated debunker and I wouldn't be able to understand all the complex calculations involved in the collapse of those buildings.
But I don't need to anyway.
Those planes were flown into both towers and the Pentagon on the same day as a 4th plane was hijacked and crashed into the ground.
That is a fact witnessed worldwide at the time it was happening.
I thought that this would be a good show to watch but instead it was just sad and rather pointless.
The only real thing the truthers on that show had to say was we don't know how,what or why we just know the official story by the government is wrong.
What is that? Why are they even on TV?
No one else needed the official report or any other report to know what happened on that horrible day.
We all watched it as it was unfolding.
The government fired a missile into it's own Pentagon? What is that crap?
Who could think that was real?
Why would anyone go to the trouble of putting together experiments to disprove something to someone who has nothing to disprove other than the evil government is wrong?
This show should have never been made. I see no need for it and those TMs should never be given any TV time for any reason.
Well OK. I take that back. They should go on Jerry Springer and start talking about super duper thermite and evil government and then some secret services guys run on stage and start kicking their butts.
That would be worth a watch.
 
I would love to watch this TV show!
But I'm living in Japan and don't have a cable TV...
 
Brattus said:
They should go on Jerry Springer and start talking about super duper thermite and evil government and then some secret services guys run on stage and start kicking their butts.
That would be worth a watch.
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I think they should restart the Jenny Jones show specifically for the TM. Bet it would be canceled within days again.
 
A NY Post analysis of the doc....

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08282009/tv/the_story_behind_9_11__hit_or_myth__186793.htm

The producer concedes he would've loved it if the Truther theories were proven correct.

"Our ratings would've gone through the roof!" [Erik Nelson, executive producer] says.

"What do you think is more ratings grabbing: proof 9/11 was a conspiracy or proof that the official story was correct?" he asks. "It would've been fantastic to prove that the Truthers were correct, but sadly -- as far as my ratings are concerned -- that's not what happened.

So National Geographic should noose Nelson for his Nielson.
 
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