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Why Are We Debunking 9/11 CTs? Is It Still Relevant?

Scott Sommers

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Back in August 2006,
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62568
Gumboot and others tried to answer quiries about the motivations of 911 conspiracy debunkers. They gave very pertainant reasons for the time, but 3 years later, are these points still relevant?

As I have said before, my observations now is that the 911 Truth movement is composed of ranting lunatics. No one listens to them. They can't get more than a handful of people out to a rally. Politicans I am familiar with laugh at them. I doubt anyone would even let most of them near their young children or pets.

Who cares anymore? And why would anyone care enough to put large amounts of time into the extremely impressive calculations and video presentations I see all the time on JREFF?
 
Childlike Empress said:
You are funny. Why are you here?
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Good point. I have an answer which I think most here would feel is important in a continued validation of debunking. But I'd also like to know why others think what they do is relevant even though the 911 Truth movement is, for purposes, meaningless
 
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There are still the occasional people who get sucked into this due to the sheer overload of twoofer videos and web sites. Most google search hits go straight to the woo and there are always plenty of gullible people born every day or as P.T. Barnum put it "There's a sucker born every minute".

Besides, it's fun to sit back and watch the crazy from time to time.
 
Childlike Empress said:
You are funny. Why are you here?
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The cookies, the chuckles, the schadenfreude laughs
The barely coherent discourse
The moving of goalposts, erroneous graphs
And "Larry said Pull It," of course.

The magical moving of aerial craft
From crash zone to overflight bliss!
See, all this was done by Dick Cheney, who laughed,
"Nanothermite? It's too good to miss!"

We'll see space beams and PSYOPS!
Demolitions and Dancing!
Mossad teams and "Thought-Cops!"
Jewish Financing!

Psychics and lizards and NSA posers,
kiddos with far too much time on their hands.
And then Delmart Vreeland, that shifty old hoser
With his wandering, inappropriate hands.

"Popular Mechanics is in on the take,
those Homeland Security Shills!
It's Chertoff and Chertoff, I tell you - those snakes!"
Why, it never ceases to thrill.

So why do we do it: carry the torch
To light up the Truth Movement's tricks?
Some teach, some lecture, but as for yours truly:
It's fun to poke people with sticks.
 
JoeyDonuts said:
The cookies, the chuckles, the schadenfreude laughs
The barely coherent discourse
The moving of goalposts, erroneous graphs
And "Larry said Pull It," of course.

The magical moving of aerial craft
From crash zone to overflight bliss!
See, all this was done by Dick Cheney, who laughed,
"Nanothermite? It's too good to miss!"

We'll see space beams and PSYOPS!
Demolitions and Dancing!
Mossad teams and "Thought-Cops!"
Jewish Financing!

Psychics and lizards and NSA posers,
kiddos with far too much time on their hands.
And then Delmart Vreeland, that shifty old hoser
With his wandering, inappropriate hands.

"Popular Mechanics is in on the take,
those Homeland Security Shills!
It's Chertoff and Chertoff, I tell you - those snakes!"
Why, it never ceases to thrill.

So why do we do it: carry the torch
To light up the Truth Movement's tricks?
Some teach, some lecture, but as for yours truly:
It's fun to poke people with sticks.
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sit down, Joseph:p
 
Sorry. Eric Idle's astrally projecting his damned consciousness into me again.
 
I do it for the groupies.

Oh, wait, that's why I should have been a rock star!
 
The battle itself is over. After a peak in 2006, 911 truth is now widely acknowledged to be the complete joke that it is.

At this point our job is one of rehabilitation (saving some of the fews truthers left) and making sure newbies don't fall for the TM sales pitch.

But the main purpose for me these days is comedy. Just today we were treated to a cocky truther starting a thread about top-down collapses only to end up proving the OS right. :D
 
because I"m a paid NWO shill... I have to be here (and on youtube) for 8 hours a day to earn my shiney sea shells.
 
Why debunk 911 Truthers?
Because they are there.
We could just ignore them and hope they'll go away, but they keep coming back. It is the same reason why people in other forums debunk Bigfoot or Creationism: It's full of bunk.

We don't like bunk. We like to remove the bunk from things, hence the term "Debunker". If we left any bit of bunk unchallenged, we wouldn't feel like we'd done our job. We'd feel like shirkers. No debunker wants to shirk. In fact, a shirking debunker is no better than a woo peddler. The peddlers of woo would like to see debunkers shirk, so they could shill their flim-flam, but let me state here and now in crystal clear terms for all the world to see:

Debunkers will never shirk their flim-flam shill woo peddler debunking duties!!!!

Hope that clears it up.
 
scott.in.taiwan said:
As I have said before, my observations now is that the 911 Truth movement is composed of ranting lunatics. No one listens to them.
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They're getting audiences in mosques, so it seems, both in the UK and US. I don't know what kind of reaction they're getting, but it seems to me that helping spread their lies through the Muslim community is a profoundly dangerous thing to do, something that will increase disaffection and isolation, help to separate communities, support more radical elements, reduce the likelihood that people will cooperate with the police, and so maybe even cost lives.

So, who cares any more? I do.
 
My sig. It's all about my sig. I don't mind people who are wrong, my beef is people who are wrong and arrogant about it.
 
As far as it returning to its "glory" days of 2006, and actually getting some attention, Nah, it ain't gonna happen again.

You are right, it has become almost a non-issue, but there are still those who are attracted to it, then come here and see the light. That might be enough reason to continue.

As well, as Mike has said, the snake oil salesmen are now taking their warez to areas where they might attract, among others, the very people who carried out the crimes in the first place.

Overall though, much less, and certainly much less valuable, information and debate is posted here now, c/w 2006.

TAM:)
 
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