Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

[twinstead]

Or one beer bottle...

Holy crap

 

[MIKILLINI]

bs likely has one of the most severe cases of the Dunning-Kruger effect of anybody in the world. I am not being hyperbolic.

Reading through that makes plenty of sense and describes Bill and Heiwa perfectly.

 

[dtugg]

Reading through that makes plenty of sense and describes Bill and Heiwa perfectly.

I forgot about Heiwa. He probably has the most severe case in the world. He thinks he is a genius but it's not possible to be more incompetent than he is.

 

[Toke]

Or one beer bottle...

Cool, and it is even from Denmark.

 

[Audible Click]

Very interesting video. I lurk here and don't comment very often but I'd like to say this. I knew very little about how the towers were built but after reading the information posted in this and other 9/11 threads, even I, can take the information that has been posted for Bill and Heiwa (over and over and over) and understand it. Bill and Heiwa don't understand because they don't want to understand, and no matter what proof is posted it will never be enough to extracate them from this modality.

 

[Dave Rogers]

So you can explain all you like but until you can come up with any other structure, big or small in the entire history of this Planet in which the top and lightest one-tenth crushed the other and stronger nine-enths down flat on the ground by gravity alone all the explanations of 9/11 debunkers will be 100% disregarded.

Well, I must admit I didn't know anything about this, but a superb example was just posted in the Ronan Point Thread by sylvan8798. Since I don't know whether bill smith is bothering to read that thread, I thought it might be gainfully reposted into this one.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5011434#post5011434

Bailey's Crosspoads collapse. It's from March 1973, by the way, so the 9/11 conspirators would have to have planned rather a long way ahead.

http://www.djc.com/news/co/11155170.html

"At the time of the collapse, concrete was being placed on the 24th floor, and shoring was simultaneously being removed from concrete at the 22nd floor. The sudden, progressive collapse carried the weight of the failed concrete of the 22nd, 23rd and 24th floors all the way to the ground level."

Top-down progressive collapse all the way to the ground, in which the top and lightest one-eighth crushed all the other and stronger seven-eighths down, not quite flat but down to the ground, by gravity alone.

Now, in WTC1, about 13 floors (just under one-eighth, NOT one-tenth as bill smith likes to claim) crushed all the other and stronger seven-eighths down, not quite flat but down to the ground, by gravity alone.

So it looks like bill's "first time in history" claim is as much the product of ignorance as all his others.

Major kudos to sylvan8798 for coming up with this example.

Dave

 

[carlitos]

Found one.

I love that beer bottle video, and I like that it's Danish. The danes have the best word for beer - øl. It's easy to pronounce after you have had a few. Jeg likker Tuborg Øl!

An update on SteveAustin, who doesn't seem to be posting here anymore - He found his first internet shill, and it's Hal Turner. 999 to go!

Hey carlito, remember the initial reason you said you came here for?

Because of the 1000 paid shills on the internet and your interpretation of that article that was posted (BTW folks, people over at JREF are still pretending that the article was never posted and commenting that I never provided them with my evidence on this...that is how dishonest JREF'ers are)

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?...rained_by_FBI_to_Incite_Others_Attorney_Says_

Seems Hal Turner was an FBI plant in the MSM and he was planted there to spread disinformation and to incite people. He was coached by the FBI as to what he could and could not say.

Hmmm, just more proof of Operation Mockingbird in action. More proof of paid shills on the internet.

Is this one good enough for you carlito? Or are you going to now claim that this is just ONE person and proves nothing?

 

[funk de fino]

newish poster at a music forum I post at and have done for years has just come out in a thread about pulling troops from Afghanistan as a full on 911 truther.

Who wants to take a stab at what his first claim was when I called him on it and asked him to bring his best stuff?

 

[DGM]

I don't claim to be smart and I never have. You can demonstrate your own aptitude by providing the example called for in the statement below. Try to give a real example other than 9/11 itself..

When I am told that one tenth of a structure crushes down the other nine-tenths of the same structure by gravity alone.I don't need any engineer to tell me that something is hideousy skewed and I am being sold a crock.

So you can explain all you like but until you can come up with any other structure, big or small in the entire history of this Planet in which the top and lightest one-tenth crushed the other and stronger nine-enths down flat on the ground by gravity alone all the explanations of 9/11 debunkers will be 100% disregarded.

Bill; Do you believe that 10 floors can crush 1? After that is it hard to imagine 11 crushing 1 more? Can you (possibly) see where I'm going?

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

An update on SteveAustin, who doesn't seem to be posting here anymore - He found his first internet shill, and it's Hal Turner. 999 to go!

I love how he appears to be treating the comments thread as some sort of on-stage debate with a significant audience, or a personal blog.

So sad...

 

[MIKILLINI]

Well, I must admit I didn't know anything about this, but a superb example was just posted in the Ronan Point Thread by sylvan8798. Since I don't know whether bill smith is bothering to read that thread, I thought it might be gainfully reposted into this one.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5011434#post5011434

Bailey's Crosspoads collapse. It's from March 1973, by the way, so the 9/11 conspirators would have to have planned rather a long way ahead.

http://www.djc.com/news/co/11155170.html

"At the time of the collapse, concrete was being placed on the 24th floor, and shoring was simultaneously being removed from concrete at the 22nd floor. The sudden, progressive collapse carried the weight of the failed concrete of the 22nd, 23rd and 24th floors all the way to the ground level."

Top-down progressive collapse all the way to the ground, in which the top and lightest one-eighth crushed all the other and stronger seven-eighths down, not quite flat but down to the ground, by gravity alone.

Now, in WTC1, about 13 floors (just under one-eighth, NOT one-tenth as bill smith likes to claim) crushed all the other and stronger seven-eighths down, not quite flat but down to the ground, by gravity alone.

So it looks like bill's "first time in history" claim is as much the product of ignorance as all his others.

Major kudos to sylvan8798 for coming up with this example.

Dave

This is very interesting and amplifies the point of one floor unable to arrest the dynamic load of multiple floors. What say you, Bill?

 

[Dave Rogers]

An update on SteveAustin, who doesn't seem to be posting here anymore - He found his first internet shill, and it's Hal Turner. 999 to go!

Except that Turner isn't exactly a paid debunker, is he? So that puts SteveAustin back to 1000 to go.

Dave

 

[releaseeabode]

Bill; Do you believe that 10 floors can crush 1? After that is it hard to imagine 11 crushing 1 more? Can you (possibly) see where I'm going?

Pancake collapse theory?

 

[funk de fino]

Pancake collapse theory?

I predict you will be making a huge error with your next few posts if you get an answer to this question.

I will give you two words that may stop your future embarrassment but I fear they may not be enough.

1. Initiation

2. Propogation

 

[Dave Rogers]

I predict you will be making a huge error with your next few posts if you get an answer to this question.

This should be interesting.

Dave

 

[Klimax]

newish poster at a music forum I post at and have done for years has just come out in a thread about pulling troops from Afghanistan as a full on 911 truther.

Who wants to take a stab at what his first claim was when I called him on it and asked him to bring his best stuff?

About 911?
Alex Jones nanothermite?

 

[carlitos]

LoL

I love how he appears to be treating the comments thread as some sort of on-stage debate with a significant audience, or a personal blog.

So sad...

Indeed:

I’m glad the two of you came over as now my point about JREF has been proven for the millions of people who read the BBC blogs to see

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Steve needs to expand his horizons a bit if he expect "millions" to focus their attention upon a single article out of the entire website... Running my own forum, I don't rely on a single source for my traffic, I rely on multiple sources and I discuss on multiple sites the theme of my forum. If I wanted a significant audience for an imbecilic argument I would assume the same principals would apply

 

[DGM]

Pancake collapse theory?

OK I'll bite. (you have to understand I have a life and I might not respond right away). When you say "pancake collapse theory" I have to assume you're referring to the FEMA theory that you and I know has be demised. You wouldn't bore me with that old argument would you? So putting that aside........WHAT ARE YOU GETTING AT?

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Indeed:

I’m glad the two of you came over as now my point about JREF has been proven for the millions of people who read the BBC blogs to see

Holy mother of God... I don't know if I want to laugh or cry. He's seriously under this epic delusion that everyone who visits the BBC website passes through the comments section of this single blog post?

Can anyone quickly drop me the link to that post? I know Steve posted it a while back, but I think it's buried in the thread; I can't seem to locate it (also, I have him on ignore...).