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9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

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Chaos said:
Besides, I challenge your use of the word "sophisticated".

A nation that let itself be led by first a deluded egomaniac with an inferiority complex, and then a histrionic garden gnome with a sanity deficit can hardly be called "sophisticated".
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if the USA had been defeated in a major war, its currency turned to toilet paper, its people starving, its men demoralized, its veterans hobbled, its government non-functional...

we too might go the way of lunacy.
 
parky76 said:
fare enough. i too was confused by these rather high natural growth rates.

but it turns out that many other groups also had a very high growth rate.

for example, the Palestinian-Arab population went from 673,000 in 1922 to 1,196,000 in 1945. that's an 100% increase in 23 years.

The Jews had a 50% increase in twice that amount of time.

so you are telling me, that you will accept a doubling of a population in 23 years..but NOT a 50% increase in 39???
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Yes, I'm telling you that. I did not say that all population groups have the same procreation patterns. It's a general pattern that the more evolved and intelligent a group is the lower it's birth rates are. So I am not surprised that the Jews, the most intelligent group on this planet has a far lower birth rate than Palestinians. Muslims here in the Netherlands have a far higher birth rate than the Dutch. Africans the same story. Jews practise 'high investment parenting' and that does not go hand in hand with breeding like rabbits, excuse my french.

now, as to why the jewish natural pop. growth rate decreased sooo dramatically after WW2, it can because were in SHOCK!!!
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Maybe but not decades.

what is my first guess as to explain this disparity in Jewish pop. growth rates? perhaps a great deal more inter-marriage, smaller families, increase in socio-economic status, ...the GUESSES are endless..but that's all they are...guesses.
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Fair enough. I find it very difficult to prove or disprove the holocaust on the basis of this angle. I rather stick with the forensics of the holocaust. But that's a topic for another day. I have spent enough hours on the holocaust for today.

See ye later alligator.

what do u want from us?
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Don't destroy our societies with either bolshevism, multiculturalism or neo-conservatism. That's all.

unless you can provide some evidence that the pre-war numbers are fake (which would require a massive conspiracy going back 45 years from 1945).....I will continue to consider them to be valid.
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I'm sorry, I don't have it.
 
9/11-investigator said:
I'm sorry, I don't have it.
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well, look for it.

if census data statistics if one of the main angles for your Holocaust denial..then honestly, as they say: "put up or shut up".

I have read much of the writing of Holocaust deniers. I have seen ZERO evidence from any of them, that either the pre-WW2 data or the post-WW2 data was faked.

what I have seen, though, is "I don't believe it" and "It makes no sense".

yes, it is very sad that Jewish natural growth rates have decreased so much after WW2. It shows that the tragedy of WW2 lives on.

When you put a people through hell, they often times never recover..or it takes generations to recover.

its not like the Jews could just go back home and return to how things were. our towns, villages, way of life, was annihilated in 6 years. our communal leaders were gone. our communal structure was gone.

Its been 150 years since the end of slavery, and yet African-Americans are still yet to recover from the crimes of slavery, while their African and Caribbean compatriots seem to be doing so much better then they. Why is this the case?

It takes time to recover from disaster.
 
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It's amusing, in a sad sort of way, that those who consider themselves ubermenschen, strong men of the type that triumphs in the fight against cruel and pitiless nature and savage hordes of inferiors, rush to the moderators to whine when people call them a nasty name...
 
parky76 said:
Its been 150 years since the end of slavery, and yet African-Americans are still yet to recover from the crimes of slavery, while their African and Caribbean compatriots seem to be doing so much better then they. Why is this the case?
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Are you kidding? Blacks in the US do much better than in Africa or the Caribbean.
 
I Ratant said:
.The tendency of the top nazis to go gaa-gaa over the latest shiny nickel some opportunist would present as -the- bestest ever vengeance weapon, and divert scarce resources towards the manufacture of these frequently unusable items,
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The Nazis were screw-up amateurs in every field -- from art to declaring war -- going crazy over shiny, worthless kitsch or bold, amateurish all-or-nothing leaps in the dark, over careful planning and practical solutions.

Wait, I apologize. There was one field they were really professionals at -- mass murder.
 
Skeptic said:
The Nazis were screw-up amateurs in every field -- from art to declaring war -- going crazy over shiny, worthless kitsch or bold, amateurish all-or-nothing leaps in the dark, over careful planning and practical solutions.

Wait, I apologize. There was one field they were really professionals at -- mass murder.
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Wrong no need to apologise, the mass murder were pretty screwed up too.
They could not keep their priorities of slave labour and extermination strait.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
Hatred isn't an emotion known for compelling honesty.

Take yourself for example...
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indeed. hatred tends to blind one to rationality, logic, and facts.

clear your mind, remove all passion and animosity from your brain, and the truth is much clearer.

those who hate....can never be trusted.
 
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9/11-investigator said:
Sometimes it shows as an image, sometimes it doesn't, but the link is not dead.
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let me ask u this: how could a conspiracy to inflate jewish world population numbers have existed...if these numbers go back to 1929?

are u suggesting a 45 year old conspiracy...to create ww1 AND ww2..and fake a Holocaust??

that would be one....INTENSE...conspiracy. spanning the world.
 
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dtugg said:
Are you kidding? Blacks in the US do much better than in Africa or the Caribbean.
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No Crap. You might say..and I would Agree..that Blacks in the US are still economically disadvantaged compared to whites, but even so, the standard of living of the average Black American is much,much, better then of Blacks in the Carribean and in Africa. Something to do with living in a much richer nation......
parky76 occasionally puts his foot into it, and he sure as heck did here.
 
Skeptic said:
It's amusing, in a sad sort of way, that those who consider themselves ubermenschen, strong men of the type that triumphs in the fight against cruel and pitiless nature and savage hordes of inferiors, rush to the moderators to whine when people call them a nasty name...
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Classic Schoolyard Bully behavior.
 
This forum is "a place to discuss skepticism". If people are skeptical of the holocaust then that is their right in a democratic society. There are 2 sides to every story. If some say the holocaust is genuine then others have the right to say it is a hoax. Since when is it a crime to ask questions? If you have a problem with holocaust skeptics what are you doing here?
www.cwporter.com/c1.htm
www.nazigassings.com/dieselgaschambera.html
 
Mondial said:
This forum is "a place to discuss skepticism". If people are skeptical of the holocaust then that is their right in a democratic society. There are 2 sides to every story.
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... and sometimes the other side is just *¤$#!:ing nuts.

It doesn't mean that it should be illegal in a free society, but it's still *¤$#!:ing nuts.
 
now, 9/11 investigator, what will happen to the Jews in your "european order?"

i recommend you read leftysergeant's comment about semitic civilisations as well.

To top it off, while Europe was dominated by the barbarians of Europe, China and the Indus were thriving civilisations that were far ahead of anything else at the time. Babylon and Egypt were also great powers as well as the Assyrians, Hittites, the Israelites and the Persians.

While Europe was in the dark ages, who formed the largest empire in the world? The Mongol Empire.

The Maya in Central America as well as the Toltecs and the Olmecs were very advanced as well.

So, Europe is not the greatest civilisation.
 
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