Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

[paximperium]

Non-existent hell no.

There may be hope for the female species yet

 

[RobRoy]

Non-existent hell no.

You're missing out on witnessing an indoctrinatated LDS woman project her "sanctioned" fantasies onto unsuspecting teens, tweens, and other demographics via a mediocre plot line and uninspired writing!

Seriously, with a review like that, why are you still sitting there, reading this instead of going out to buy all Meyer's books in hardback!?

 

[paximperium]

You're missing out on witnessing an indoctrinatated LDS woman project her "sanctioned" fantasies onto unsuspecting teens, tweens, and other demographics via a mediocre plot line and uninspired writing!

Seriously, with a review like that, why are you still sitting there, reading this instead of going out to buy all Meyer's books in hardback!?

Back, back with ye, non-existant Satan. The power of good taste compels you!!!

 

[RobRoy]

Back, back with ye, non-existant Satan. The power of good taste compels you!!!

[Glinda's lilting laugh] You have no power here! Now begone, before somebody drops a Book of Mormon and two missionaries on you!




Unless that was meant for Stephanie Meyers, in which case pass the holy water!

 

[tsig]

God seems pretty constrained for a purported all powerful being.

A rather impotent omnipotent being.

 

[tsig]

Yes, but the physician Luke, who was Paul's traveling companion and the author of the Book of Acts, could have very easily been a 1st hand witness to these miracles performed by the apostles which are recorded in the Book of Acts.

From the article: The Miracle Narratives in the Acts of the Apostles
by Fr. John A. Hardon, S.J.



INDIVIDUAL MIRACULOUS PHENOMENA
A. Resuscitations from the Dead
1. Peter raises the disciple Tabitha 9, 36-42
2. Paul raises the young man Eutychus 20, 9-12
B. Miraculous Cures and Exorcisms
1. Peter heals the lame man at the Temple gate 3, 1-16
2. Ananias cures Saul of his blindness 9, 17-18
3. Peter heals the paralytic Aeneas 9, 33-35
4. Paul cures the lame man of Lystra 14, 7-9
5. Paul stoned and miraculously healed at Lystra 14, 19
6. Paul exorcises girl possessed of divining spirit 16, 16-18
7. Paul heals Publius’ father of dysentery 28, 7-8
C. Miraculous Penalties or Afflictions
1. Ananias and Saphira struck dead at Peter’s feet 5, 5-11
2. Saul struck blind on the road to Damascus 9, 8-9
3. Herod suddenly slain by an angel 12, 23
4. Paul temporarily blinds the sorcerer Elymas 13, 9-12
D. Nature or Cosmic Miracles
1. Violent wind at the Cenacle in Jerusalem 2, 2-6
2. Shaking of the assembly building in Jerusalem 4, 31
3. Prison doors open for the Apostles 5, 17-25
4. Philip snatched by the Spirit of the Lord 8, 39
5. Peter liberated from prison by an angel 12, 5-11
6. Chains fall from Paul and Silas 16, 25-30
7. Paul shakes off viper from his arm 28, 3-6


II.

COLLECTIVE MIRACULOUS PHENOMENA
1. Many signs and wonders done by the Apostles in Jerusalem 2, 43
2. Apostles perform signs and wonders among the people 5, 12
3. Peter’s shadow cures many in the streets 5, 15
4. Multitudes from outside Jerusalem are healed 5, 16
5. Stephen works great signs and wonders 6, 8
6. Philip cures crippled and possessed in Samaria 8, 6-8, 13
7. Miracles worked by Paul and Barnabas on mission journey 14, 3
8. Great signs and wonders done among the Gentiles 15, 12
9. Miracles worked through objects touched by Paul 19, 11-12
10. Paul heals all the sick brought to him on Malta 28, 9

http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/Miracles/Miracles_004.htm

So we have the physician Luke (who was a traveling companion of Paul and who Sir Ramsay says is one of the world's great historians) reporting the above apostles' miracles in the same matter of fact manner that he reports 87 highly detailed facts that we know are true.

Poor amputees. They never get a break.

 

[joobz]

If you ever go to court for a speeding ticket tell the judge you didn't know what the speed limit was and see if that works.

As Hokulele mentioned, it depends on the situation.

DOC, Do you agree with Jesus that it is acceptable to BEAT servants(slaves)?

 

[DOC]

...Are you implying he witnessed the miracles in the gospel? Life expectancy in the Roman empire was likely 35, though that is weighed down by high child mortality. The majority who made it to 15 died by 50. He would have had to be 55 minimum to have witnessed the miracles personally as a 20 year-old...

And regarding age, some of the oldest living people on the planet today have no contact with modern society or modern medicine.

Please provide evidence to support this statement.

Dr. Oz and The Blue Zones Author discuss on ‘Oprah’ how to live longer - Secrets of longevity around the World -- by Nicole Wilson

Nicoya Peninsula in Costa Rica is located deep in the rainforest. Dr. Oz traveled to the first blue zone and showed how he traveled to this location. There are hundreds of centurions. Dan showed Dr. Oz showed how the people lived their lives. They hiked a long ways off the road, and were being rained on to get to the where all these centurions lived. They interviewed a man that is almost 108 years old. Dan said that the water is important because it has hard water, and because of the calcium and magnesium builds strong bones. There are no nursing homes, they live with there family. There is no electricity.

http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=2...d_longevity_secrets_on_oprah_winfrey_show.htm

 

[Fitter]

Dr. Oz and The Blue Zones Author discuss on ‘Oprah’ how to live longer - Secrets of longevity around the World -- by Nicole Wilson

Nicoya Peninsula in Costa Rica is located deep in the rainforest. Dr. Oz traveled to the first blue zone and showed how he traveled to this location. There are hundreds of centurions. Dan showed Dr. Oz showed how the people lived their lives. They hiked a long ways off the road, and were being rained on to get to the where all these centurions lived. They interviewed a man that is almost 108 years old. Dan said that the water is important because it has hard water, and because of the calcium and magnesium builds strong bones. There are no nursing homes, they live with there family. There is no electricity.

http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=2...d_longevity_secrets_on_oprah_winfrey_show.htm

There are no birth records.

 

[DOC]

DOC, Do you agree with Jesus that it is acceptable to BEAT servants(slaves)?

Joobz you are not telling the whole story

In Luke 12:47 a slave was put in charge of other slaves, then got drunk and beat other slaves while his master was away (which is what happened in the parable Jesus metioned). I agree with Jesus that this person should be harshly punished for his terrible actions that physically hurt several other people. Of course in modern society, he would be arrested and spend time in jail, which is what I would agree with. But back then it would probably be unlikely to send a slave to jail for beating other slaves so other punishments were done to get the point across not only to the slave but other slaves.

Jesus also said in this parable that some slaves would be rewarded and be given control over everything the master owns. How many slaves in the old south do you think were given control over all that his master owned?

 

[joobz]

Joobz you are not telling the whole story

In Luke 12:47 a slave was put in charge of other slaves, then got drunk and beat other slaves while his master was away (which is what happened in the parable Jesus metioned). I agree with Jesus that this person should be harshly punished for his terrible actions that physically hurt several other people. Of course in modern society, he would be arrested and spend time in jail, which is what I would agree with. But back then it would probably be unlikely to send a slave to jail for beating other slaves so other punishments were done to get the point across not only to the slave but other slaves.

Jesus also said in this parable that some slaves would be rewarded and be given control over everything the master owns. How many slaves in the old south do you think were given control over all that his master owned?

Do YOU believe in the context of the story that it is ok to BEAT SLAVES?

why are you so obviously avoiding the question?

 

[wollery]

If you ever go to court for a speeding ticket tell the judge you didn't know what the speed limit was and see if that works.

Worked for me too.

 

[DOC]

Joobz you are not telling the whole story

In Luke 12:47 a slave was put in charge of other slaves, then got drunk and beat other slaves while his master was away (which is what happened in the parable Jesus metioned). I agree with Jesus that this person should be harshly punished for his terrible actions that physically hurt several other people. Of course in modern society, he would be arrested and spend time in jail, which is what I would agree with. But back then it would probably be unlikely to send a slave to jail for beating other slaves so other punishments were done to get the point across not only to the slave but other slaves.

Jesus also said in this parable that some slaves would be rewarded and be given control over everything the master owns. How many slaves in the old south do you think were given control over all that his master owned?

Do YOU believe in the context of the story that it is ok to BEAT SLAVES?

why are you so obviously avoiding the question?

In the context of the story the disobedient slave who knew he was going against his master's will beat "several" menservants and "several" maidens. If I was alive at that time and had a 1st century mindset I don't know what I would have done.

But the purpose of the parable was not to analyze the institution of slavery. The purpose of the parable was to say there will be definite punishment for violating God's laws. And it would seem that the parable would definitely get that point across to those of a first century mindset. Christ was being dead serious - there is a price to pay for going against God's rules. If Christ truly believed (and there were no translation errors and he wasn't just speaking in ways those of a 1st century mindset could understand in order to get his point across) that the situation he was talking about (where the knowingly disobedient slave beat "several" menservants and beat "several" maidens) called for this one slave to given some lashes as punishment in this one case then I would also believe that this specific incident in the 1st century called for this slave (who beat several menservants and who beat several maidens) to be given some lashes.

 

[Elizabeth I]

Dr. Oz and The Blue Zones Author discuss on ‘Oprah’ how to live longer - Secrets of longevity around the World -- by Nicole Wilson

Nicoya Peninsula in Costa Rica is located deep in the rainforest. Dr. Oz traveled to the first blue zone and showed how he traveled to this location. There are hundreds of centurions.

OMG! There are hundreds of commanding officers of ancient Roman centuries?

(century: in the ancient Roman army, a company, consisting of approximately 100 men) Those people are a LOT older than 100 years!

ETA: how the hell did those centurions get from Italy to Costa Rica?

Dan showed Dr. Oz showed how the people lived their lives. They hiked a long ways off the road, and were being rained on to get to the where all these centurions lived. They interviewed a man that is almost 108 years old. Dan said that the water is important because it has hard water, and because of the calcium and magnesium builds strong bones. There are no nursing homes, they live with there family. There is no electricity.

I would be suspicious of any purported "scientific" report that didn't know the difference between there and their, or between centenarian and centurion. But then, I would be suspicious of most any purported "scientific" report that you posted.

 

[DOC]

OMG! There are hundreds of commanding officers of ancient Roman centuries?

(century: in the ancient Roman army, a company, consisting of approximately 100 men) Those people are a LOT older than 100 years!

ETA: how the hell did those centurions get from Italy to Costa Rica?



I would be suspicious of any purported "scientific" report that didn't know the difference between there and their, or between centenarian and centurion. But then, I would be suspicious of most any purported "scientific" report that you posted.

The article was a writer speaking about a TV show episode which included a Doctor, the article by the writer was not a scientific report.

 

[Elizabeth I]

The article was a writer speaking about a TV show episode which included a Doctor, the article by the writer was not a scientific report.

I notice you slipped right by the ignorance of someone who doesn't know the difference between a centurion and a centenarian. Is that because you feel so comfortable in that person's company?

 

[joobz]

In the context of the story the disobedient slave who knew he was going against his master's will beat "several" menservants and "several" maidens. If I was alive at that time and had a 1st century mindset I don't know what I would have done.

So you agree that a slave should be beat.
thank you. At least you can see why I view the biblical morality sub-par.

But the purpose of the parable was not to analyze the institution of slavery. The purpose of the parable was to say there will be definite punishment for violating God's laws. And it would seem that the parable would definitely get point across to those of a first century mindset.

Exactly. It used slavery as a example of how we are treated by god. Jesus simply accepted Slavery as a perfectly normal way of life. Hardly moral, wouldn't you agree? Oh wait, I guess not.

Christ was being dead serious - there is a price to pay for going against God's rules.

Exactly, dead serious that we are slaves to god.
and that god would unjustly hold all accountable, even if they didn't know the rules. Nice guy.

If Christ truly believed (and there were no translation errors and he wasn't just speaking in ways those of a 1st century mindset could understand in order to get his point across) that the situation he was talking about (where the knowingly disobedient slave beat "several" menservants and beat "several" maidens) called for this one slave to given some lashes as punishment in this one case then I would also believe that this specific incident in the 1st century called for this slave (who beat several menservants and who beat several maidens) to be given some lashes.

Again, thank you for admitting you think beating slaves are acceptable (at least when Jesus says it's ok).

This was very telling exchange. I would hope more people would read your response and see what the bible can do to people's sense of morality.

 

[joobz]

I would be suspicious of any purported "scientific" report that didn't know the difference between there and their, or between centenarian and centurion.

In all fairness, I will make their/there mistake from time to time and I know the science I publish is of very reliable, high quality. But of course, you don't need to rely on my opinion. I allow my data to speak for themselves.

 

[Simon39759]

Ann Coulter; then Conservapedia and now Oprah (actually, 'some guy that was watching Oprah').
The credibility of your references may moving up, but quite slowly so...

 

[paximperium]

And regarding age, some of the oldest living people on the planet today have no contact with modern society or modern medicine. And Moses, Abraham, and the apostle John all lived to a very old age.

Please provide evidence to support this statement.

Dr. Oz and The Blue Zones Author discuss on ‘Oprah’ how to live longer - Secrets of longevity around the World -- by Nicole Wilson

Nicoya Peninsula in Costa Rica is located deep in the rainforest. Dr. Oz traveled to the first blue zone and showed how he traveled to this location. There are hundreds of centurions. Dan showed Dr. Oz showed how the people lived their lives. They hiked a long ways off the road, and were being rained on to get to the where all these centurions lived. They interviewed a man that is almost 108 years old. Dan said that the water is important because it has hard water, and because of the calcium and magnesium builds strong bones. There are no nursing homes, they live with there family. There is no electricity.

http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=2...d_longevity_secrets_on_oprah_winfrey_show.htm

The article was a writer speaking about a TV show episode which included a Doctor, the article by the writer was not a scientific report.

So that's a no on the evidence of your original claim?