9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[9/11-investigator]

No, a troll is someone who posts flaming comments on a topic. I am not flaming. You are.

No, I am not flaming or calling people names. You guys do that. 'Nazi', 'monster', etc. I on the contrary stay polite. I can afford that because I have the better arguments and the more you shout and call namesthe more impotent you will appear to neutral passers-by.

You troll message boards, hoping to draw more users.

I do not visit many boards. In fact only this one and my dutch home forum and have not been there in a long time.

Then why has irving been an outspoken holocaust denier.

Because he is one of the few historians who take the trouble of digging into the archives. Other historians simply copy each other and make sure to stay within political correct boundaries (that's where the money is, outside waits the jail for you).

Note, it is on Page 9

So, where is the military threat? There is none.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

No you can't.

Give me examples of his 'atrocious taste'.

He was a vegetarian. Nuff said.

That said, he loved the smell of gassed Jews in the morning.

Noticed you ignored what I posted earlier Investigator (In response to your claim there was no documentation supporting the gassing of those in camps):

 

[NWO Sentryman]

No, I am not flaming or calling people names. You guys do that. 'Nazi', 'monster', etc. I on the contrary stay polite. I can afford that because I have the better arguments and the more you shout and call namesthe more impotent you will appear to neutral passers-by.



I do not visit many boards. In fact only this one and my dutch home forum and have not been there in a long time.



Because he is one of the few historians who take the trouble of digging into the archives. Other historians simply copy each other and make sure to stay within political correct boundaries (that's where the money is, outside waits the jail for you).



So, where is the military threat? There is none.

First, you called Dudalb a Jew, then you said Jews run America. you also accuse us of being jewish shills.

You are wrong and you know it. There is literally mountains of evidence (Nazi documents about a "final solution", Gas Chambers, Crematoria, Mass graves, Minutes of the Wannsee Conference). Everyone here sides with us, not you. You are alone.

Irving IIRC is in bed with terrorists such as Combat 18 as well as the Neo-Nazi BNP. The only readers are scum like you who fester on hatred. You are a lonely miserable stinking rotten little coward liar in the words of Bill Cooper.

I meant page 8.

 

[headscratcher4]

Examples of atrocious taste:

http://www.thirdreichruins.com/berghof.htm

 

[9/11-investigator]

So, let me see, Evans can be excused because he has accepted money from the state, but Fred Leuchter (who you tried to sneak by) was an acceptable witness (at least until you were called on it)? Strange.

The importance of Leuchter was maybe not necessarily the quality of his work (I have no judgment on that) but the idea to pursue forensic verification of the assertions made by the victors in WW2 in Nuremberg. That's his significance.

Irving is a liar and ultimately a very poor scholar.

That's a daring statement of the worlds most renowned historian on WW2. His reputation though was crushed as he dared to embrace the findings of Leuchter combined with the complete abscence of any paper trail whatsoever of the holocaust in the archives.

Whatever he achieved through scholarship he pissed away through his lies, distortion, anger and hate.

No he did not. He was demonised for his daring to challenge the Big Tabu, the Holiest of the Holy, the holocaust. The Holy Grail of the New World Order

At the same time, he should never have been convicted by the Austrians. The more appropriate punishment was the thrashing that Deborah Lipstadt's (sp?) attorney's gave him and his humiliation in London.

He was not trashed, he was so naive to believe in a positive outcome of his trial which he commenced (he accused his opponents of diffamation), not his Jewish opponents with their budget of millions provided for by Spielberg. Irving had to fight them single handedly.

ETA: Have you read the London trial transcript? Your hero looks quite pathetic, incapable of cogent argument and completely out of his element when confronted with real scholarship and a judge that can think.

No I did not read it, show me the parts of him being pathetic. Never seen him in such a position. OK, his calling the judge Gray 'mein Fueher' was a bit over the top though.

Here is what the judge said about Irving and the gas chambers:

"[Irving] is right to point out that the contemporaneous documents, such as drawings, plans, correspondence with contractors and the like, yield little clear evidence of the existence of gas chambers designed to kill humans. Such isolated references to the use of gas as are to be found amongst these documents can be explained by the need to fumigate clothes so as to reduce the incidence of diseases such as typhus. The quantities of Zyklon-B delivered to the camp may arguably be explained by the need to fumigate clothes and other objects."

You see! The judge basically says that the gas chamber story is unproven!

http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/trial/judgment/extract1.html

 

[dudalb]

James Keegstra hired an attorney and he didn't fare much better. If you're an attorney, having a KluKKing idiot for a client, whether you're him or not, tends to make your case an exercise in futility.

I 100% agree, but still, Irving's performance in the courtroom acting in his own defense added an extra dimension of idiocy to his case.

 

[Thunder]

I on the contrary stay polite.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Examples of atrocious taste:

http://www.thirdreichruins.com/berghof.htm

The Berghof 'atrocious'???

Ah, come on.

http://www.greyfalcon.us/The Berghof.htm

Atricous is that North-Korean commie you seem to be so fond of and identify with.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rows—at the Marienplatz in Munich, for example—as many as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews.

What a remarkable coincidence that once Hitler came into power Jews were shipped off to concentration camps and 5.75 million subsequently went missing!

 

[dudalb]

Irving IIRC is in bed with terrorists such as Combat 18 as well as the Neo-Nazi BNP. The only readers are scum like you who fester on hatred. You are a lonely miserable stinking rotten little coward liar in the words of Bill Cooper

Bill Cooper...if it's the Conspiracy Kook..is not a guy I would quote or trust, but that description of the OP is correct.
And Irving is also persona non grata in several European countries because of his Neo Nazi activities. Whatta Guy.

 

[dudalb]

What a remarkable coincidence that once Hitler came into power Jews were shipped off to concentration camps and 5.75 million subsequently went missing!

Which makes David Irving's claims that Hitler had no knowledge of the Holocaust even more idiotic.
But that was before Irving outdid himself by becoming a Holocaust Denier.

 

[headscratcher4]

The Berghof 'atrocious'???

Ah, come on.

http://www.greyfalcon.us/The Berghof.htm

Atricous is that North-Korean commie you seem to be so fond of and identify with.

Irony all around....

 

[9/11-investigator]

then you said Jews run America.

You want to deny that?

http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Immigration.pdf
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2003/mar/24/00007/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article3419840.ece

you also accuse us of being jewish shills.

Most if not all of you adhere to the NWO, basically a scheme of bringing the world under control of Washington, meaning the Zionist power structure. And you self-professed 'government loyalists' love it. How many of you are not flirting with the NWO in yours nick subscripts?

You are wrong and you know it. There is literally mountains of evidence (Nazi documents about a "final solution", Gas Chambers, Crematoria, Mass graves, Minutes of the Wannsee Conference). Everyone here sides with us, not you. You are alone.

I am alone. Boohoo. Never mind, the worst that can happen to me is being called a Nazi, giving my virtual life a dramatic quality my real life is somewhat lacking. I think that you know real well that I mean what I say (although I admit I am fond on a little provocation of my trans-Atlantic cousins from time to time).

Irving IIRC is in bed with terrorists such as Combat 18 as well as the Neo-Nazi BNP.

This is utter nonsense.

The only readers are scum like you

Who was flaming again?

who fester on hatred. You are a lonely miserable stinking rotten little coward liar in the words of Bill Cooper.

Bill Who?

 

[9/11-investigator]

And Irving is also persona non grata in several European countries because of his Neo Nazi activities. Whatta Guy.

He does not engage on any 'neo nazi activity' whatsoever. He is plainly a historian who writes books and holds lectures on WW2.

And define 'neo nazi activity' for us, please?

Goose-stepping in his backyard? Come on.
He has no political connections. None.

 

[Simon39759]

The Berghof 'atrocious'???

Ah, come on.

http://www.greyfalcon.us/The Berghof.htm

Atricous is that North-Korean commie you seem to be so fond of and identify with.

The Berghof is not too bad. A bit squat and heavy for my personal taste but nothing I would term 'atrocious'.

But I think it is older than Hitler's reign. I don't think that 9/11's favourite moustache has much to do with its construction and plans. Am I wrong?

 

[9/11-investigator]

What a remarkable coincidence that once Hitler came into power Jews were shipped off to concentration camps and 5.75 million subsequently went missing!

Walrus claims without any reference to the source:


Originally Posted by Hitler
Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rows—at the Marienplatz in Munich, for example—as many as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews.

Link please.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

You want to deny that?

http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Immigration.pdf
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2003/mar/24/00007/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article3419840.ece



Most if not all of you adhere to the NWO, basically a scheme of bringing the world under control of Washington, meaning the Zionist power structure. And you self-professed 'government loyalists' love it. How many of you are not flirting with the NWO in yours nick subscripts?



I am alone. Boohoo. Never mind, the worst that can happen to me is being called a Nazi, giving my virtual life a dramatic quality my real life is somewhat lacking. I think that you know real well that I mean what I say (although I admit I am fond on a little provocation of my trans-Atlantic cousins from time to time).



This is utter nonsense.



Who was flaming again?



Bill Who?

The Times was talking about military expenditures

One is by neo-nazis and the other is about immigration reports.

We are skeptics, and we look at the evidence. We find wanting in your evidence.

David Irving is a Neo Nazi, http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/07/holocaust_denier_david_irving_slimes_his.php

You are the flamer

Bill Cooper, a tinfoil hatter you'd like. Unfortunately he died a few years ago.

 

[9/11-investigator]

The Berghof is not too bad. A bit squat and heavy for my personal taste but nothing I would term 'atrocious'.

But I think it is older than Hitler's reign. I don't think that 9/11's favourite moustache has much to do with its construction and plans. Am I wrong?

Finally some rare sanity.

 

[9/11-investigator]

He was a vegetarian. Nuff said.

That said, he loved the smell of gassed Jews in the morning.

Noticed you ignored what I posted earlier Investigator (In response to your claim there was no documentation supporting the gassing of those in camps):
[qimg]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p297/ldl21/fred.jpg[/qimg]

Walrus has a nasty habbit of not providing sources of his 'spectacular findings'.
Stop the presses, Walrus found proof of the hollowcause!

For the second time, anybody can type the word 'Vergassungskeller' on a piece of paper. Could you please provide some context? Then I can stamp it into the ground for you.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

Walrus claims without any reference to the source:


Originally Posted by Hitler
Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rows—at the Marienplatz in Munich, for example—as many as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews.

Link please.

What's the point? You'll just ignore it, like you do any with any link I provide when you scream citation.

Anyway, citation: Josef Bell, "Aufzeichnung," 1922, ZS 640, p. 5, Institut für Zeitgeschichte.
http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/annihilation.html

Or if that doesn't push your buttons:

And we say that the war will not end as the Jews imagine it will, namely with the uprooting of the Aryans, but the result of this war will be the complete annihilation of the Jews

http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/resource/document/DocJewQn.htm

Or:

Today I want to be a prophet once more: if international Jewish financiers inside and outside Europe again succeed in plunging the nations into a world war, the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth and with it the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!

http://www.holocaust-history.org/der-ewige-jude/hitler-19390130.shtml

Just an inexplicable coincidence then, those camps.

On 'Vergassungskeller' (which unambiguously translates to mean a homicidal gassing chamber), have you not watched the film I kindly provided you with? That you haven't seen the source is thus your fault, not mine.