Parents Think Boy Is Reincarnated Pilot

Rodney said:
How about the Lancet? And, of course, the late Ian Stevenson published many articles in peer-reviewed journals.
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It's a correspondence letter and not a study. However, I see a lot of the titles are about culture and psychology of belief. Those are not studies supporting the existence of reincarnation.

Edited to add, I see this was already noted.
 
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Marduk said:
because the game was released in 2000 when his experiences started and because he is still playing it as shown in this press video, you don't believe 2 year olds know how to use a joystick ?...
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Speaking from experience with my own genius son ;) , he was good at "Putt Putt" at age 3 when the most of the other kids his age didn't get the gist of it. IE, 2 and 3 yr olds, unless they are very exceptional, are not likely to be able to play a combat game at that age.

Is there a suggested age on the game? How complex is it? I'd be surprised if parents had this game for the kid, but lots of little kids watch other people playing video games.


I hate this kind of story because it begs for real science and all we get are claims of evidence but no assurance the evidence is factual. That Fox News piece has all sorts of convincing claims, but darn! I want the facts. One of those facts would be did someone coach the kid inadvertently. Another would be did the boy see others playing the video game? How about a WWII movie or 2? There are so many places/times a kids could get this kind of subtle coaching there is no way to sort out if any real coincidences occurred in his memory story. Then there is the cold reading phenomena. The kid cites some data and people look for a match among many possible matches.

I want the real science!!!! I hate intriguing stories I know are probably full of crap.



Kind of fun to get a free trip to Japan out of the deal. As for the crying, hey, my son and I both had a hard time holding back tears at the Nagasaki memorial. Memorials do that to you even if you are a kid and even if you don't really know the individuals involved.
 
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Rodney said:
The issue is your contention: "No scientist in the World thinks reincarnation is real." Do you want to withdraw it?
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Nope. Whether or not either of the two gentlemen in question are/were scientists is pretty moot.
 
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My kid was fascinated by trains - a la ' Thomas The Tank Engine '- at age 2.
He knew all the names and personality traits of the characters and what kind of engine or car they represented... If they had happened to have the names of WW2 fighter pilots and aircraft, I'm quite sure he would have known those as well ..


I think FramerDave nailed it in his post:

They made a big deal about the kid looking at planes as though he was doing a pre-flight check. Did anyone ever think to ask him what he was doing, what he was checking for? If he told me he was checking to make sure the pitot-static tube was unobstructed, inspection plates are secure and that the start area is safe and clear, I'd take a second look at it. Otherwise, it's just a kid who's fascinated by planes.

Did they ever think of asking the kid who his CO was? The name of the CAG? His serial number? .......
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As much as I hate to say it, you're going to have to retract that statement Gord_in _TO.
There are those who do believe it.
Of course there are. There are also those who believe no man has ever stepped on the moon.
 
Rodney said:
See http://www.buddhanet.net/ans32.htm
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http://www.buddhanet.net/ans32.htm
The total list from that page is:
Thomas Huxley,
Professor Gust Stromber,
Julian Huxley, and
Henry Ford

Not one of them has investigated anything. They all just think it is a "nice idea".

Ford ISTR had a greater belief in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

and
http://www.reincarnation.ws/famous_people.html
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As yes famous scientists such as:
Benjamin Franklin
Pythagoras

And I think Mark Twain was making a joke.

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pchams said:
As much as I hate to say it, you're going to have to retract that statement Gord_in _TO.
There are those who do believe it.
Of course there are. There are also those who believe no man has ever stepped on the moon.
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Bugger. Now I'm going to have to ask for a cite from a scientist that does not think we have gone to the Moon. :D
 
skeptigirl said:
I'll take that as an admission you mis-spoke. ;)
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well no, not really, there are examples I could cite, but they've never been scientifically evaluated and are all rather personal and I'm still investigating them so for the purposes of discussion are valueless, take my comment as an expression that my mind is open, but that my brain hasn't fallen out yet
;)
 
SusanB-M1 said:
A quick read through that link shows that the people mentioned date from approx 19th and first half of the 20th centuries. Are there any right up-to-date top scientists who would expound similar views today?
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I'm not sure whether he believes in reincarnation, but Nobel prize-winning physicist Brian Josephson believes in the paranormal, for which he has been vilified by the scientific establishment. Undoubtedly, there are scientists who are closeted believers in the paranormal, including reincarnation, but who know that it wouldn't be good for their science careers if they came out of the closet.
 
SusanB-M1 said:
A quick read through that link shows that the people mentioned date from approx 19th and first half of the 20th centuries. Are there any right up-to-date top scientists who would expound similar views today?
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in the west I wouldn't have thought so, in the east probably about 100% of them
;)
 
Marduk said:
well no, not really, there are examples I could cite, but they've never been scientifically evaluated and are all rather personal and I'm still investigating them so for the purposes of discussion are valueless, take my comment as an expression that my mind is open, but that my brain hasn't fallen out yet
;)
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I see. Then I'll take that as an admission you use unskeptical criteria when you evaluate these claims.
 
skeptigirl said:
I see. Then I'll take that as an admission you use unskeptical criteria when you evaluate these claims.
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ok so youre saying in your opinion that dismissing something without evaluating it properly is the correct sceptical approach

funny, I thought that was just denial and denial like that without even knowing the details is more akin to religious fundementalism than anything else I can think of
:p
 
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Marduk said:
pay attention now this is going to get obvious
interesting game he is addicted to in this news video
http://www.fox8.com/wjw-reincarnation-txt,0,1190900.story
its called "Battle fleet"
heres an info page
http://www.battle-fleet.com/
this game was released in 2000 when James was 2
scroll down to

you'll see USS Natoma Bay listed
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The kid is clearly playing a 3D flight simulator game in the video, but the game you've linked to is a 2D naval strategy game. What gives, Marduk?
 
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