The Heiwa Challenge

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Justin39640 said:
is the Hewia challenge about a structure like this?
[qimg]http://algoxy.com/conc/images/wtccoreshilouette.jpg[/qimg]
doesn't sound like it
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Any structure is allowed in The Heiwa Challenge! Look around! You'll soon learn that the structure must be fragile to start with! Easy to break!

Only problem is that part C will be as easy to break as part A!

And it must be heavy! Heavy? Yes, to provide plenty of energy when dropped. A light structure will not provide plenty of energy when dropped. The WTC 1 was very light!! Uniform density <0.2. Like cotton or wool! Like the photo! Lots of air in that structure.

So heavy and fragile! Does it exist? And will a part C of it one-way crush down part A. Why is it so difficult to find a structure that will defeat The Heiwa Challenge?

Maybe it doesn't exist? For you to find out. Use your brains!!
 
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Heiwa said:
Any structure is allowed in The Heiwa Challenge! Look around! You'll soon learn that the structure must be fragile to start with! Easy to break!

Only problem is that part C will be as easy to break as part A!

And it must be heavy! Heavy? Yes, to provide plenty of energy when dropped. A light structure will not provide plenty of energy when dropped. The WTC 1 was very light!! Uniform density <0.2. Like cotton or wool! Like the photo! Lots of air in that structure.

So heavy and fragile! Does it exist? And will a part C of it one-way crush down part A. Why is it so difficult to find a structure that will defeat The Heiwa Challenge?

Maybe it doesn't exist? For you to find out. Use your brains!!
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Seeing this is a 911 forum
maybe you should try a relevant challenge
your paper (i think it was illus 1.3) does NOT represent the towers properly
 
Heiwa said:
Any structure is allowed in The Heiwa Challenge! Look around! You'll soon learn that the structure must be fragile to start with! Easy to break!

Only problem is that part C will be as easy to break as part A!

And it must be heavy! Heavy? Yes, to provide plenty of energy when dropped. A light structure will not provide plenty of energy when dropped. The WTC 1 was very light!! Uniform density <0.2. Like cotton or wool! Like the photo! Lots of air in that structure.

So heavy and fragile! Does it exist? And will a part C of it one-way crush down part A. Why is it so difficult to find a structure that will defeat The Heiwa Challenge?

Maybe it doesn't exist? For you to find out. Use your brains!!
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Two prime examples ceased to exist on a sad Sep day in 2001. That is the only evidence i need. Game over.
 
Justin39640 said:
Seeing this is a 911 forum
maybe you should try a relevant challenge
your paper (i think it was illus 1.3) does NOT represent the towers properly
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If you think the towers' structure fulfil The Heiwa Challenge conditions just copy it and drop part C on part A, etc. Any test done after 9/12/2001 is permitted but better one made NOW! Ask NIST for assistance! They must have Standards for structures that one-way crushes after Testing them! Or ask Bazant! He has produced a theory of self-destructing structures so why can't he produce a sample of this strange material?

I would love to have access to such structure! You use it for whatever purpose and when you do not need it any longer, you just drop a part of it on the rest and POUFF - the structure is gone! Powder! Just sweep it up and sell it to China!
 
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Heiwa said:
If you think the towers' structure fulfil The Heiwa Challenge conditions just copy it and drop part C on part A, etc. Any test done after 9/12/2001 is permitted but better one made NOW! Ask NIST for assistance! They must have Standards for structures that one-way crushes after Testing them! Or ask Bazant! He has produced a theory of self-destructing structures so why can't he produce a sample of this strange material?

I would love to have access to such structure! You use it for whatever purpose and when you do not need it any longer, you just drop a part of it on the rest and POUFF - the structure is gone! Powder! Just sweep it up and sell it to China!
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We think the implied structure in your game/fairytale is more in comparison with Jacks beanstork, which may come as a surprise to you as also having no relevence to WTC 1 or 2.

The only challenge here Heiwa is to see how long you can realistically continue with your fairytale.
 
GlennB said:
Bill is consciously and deliberately adopting the single most irritating and provocative position he can dream up, post to post. It's his idea of fun.
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tfk said:
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And since knowledge, reason & facts are beyond his capacity and honesty beyond his concern, this is his only remaining tactic.

Not a pretty site.

But there's always a "lol" around the corner...

tom
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bill smith said:
Especially for you T.- because you're worth it.
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No one is ever going to accuse you of being particularly bright, bill.

Nice job completely validating Glenn's original point...
 
Heiwa said:
The Heiwa Challengeis just a new game! Old stuff doesn't comply. Think ahead! Look forward!
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And this is what eliminates you from the ranks of real engineers.

Old stuff ALWAYS applies.

tom
 
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No one is ever going to accuse you of being particularly bright, bill.

Nice job completely validating Glenn's original point...
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I have never claimed to be prticularly bright T. What was Glenn's point again ?
 
Heiwa said:
If you think the towers' structure fulfil The Heiwa Challenge conditions just copy it and drop part C on part A, etc. Any test done after 9/12/2001 is permitted but better one made NOW! Ask NIST for assistance! They must have Standards for structures that one-way crushes after Testing them! Or ask Bazant! He has produced a theory of self-destructing structures so why can't he produce a sample of this strange material?

I would love to have access to such structure! You use it for whatever purpose and when you do not need it any longer, you just drop a part of it on the rest and POUFF - the structure is gone! Powder! Just sweep it up and sell it to China!
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There is nothing in the original rules about the structure collapsing after 9/12/01. The original conditions of the challenge have been met. WTC1&2 met the conditions of your "challenge".

It's over. No one is going to play your game and spend thousands of dollars when you will just change the rules again (as you have already been shown to have done).

It's over. You lose. Good day, sir.
 
Newtons Bit said:
There is nothing in the original rules about the structure collapsing after 9/12/01. The original conditions of the challenge have been met. WTC1&2 met the conditions of your "challenge".

It's over. No one is going to play your game and spend thousands of dollars when you will just change the rules again (as you have already been shown to have done).

It's over. You lose. Good day, sir.
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It looks like you may have gotten Bazant off the hook. You should call and give him the glad tidings.
 
Newtons Bit said:
There is nothing in the original rules about the structure collapsing after 9/12/01. The original conditions of the challenge have been met. WTC1&2 met the conditions of your "challenge".

It's over. No one is going to play your game and spend thousands of dollars when you will just change the rules again (as you have already been shown to have done).

It's over. You lose. Good day, sir.
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It was a clarification of The Heiwa Challenge conditions, which evidently WTC1&2 do not meet. So the Challenge is still there! Have a go, Bit!
 
Tweeter said:
Could we get back to the topic of this thread?
Have any debunkers even tried to complete the challenge?
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Yes, several debunkers offered models that exposed Heiwa's "challenge" as bogus. Several debunkers showed why his "challenge" has nothing to do with the events of 9/11.

Perhaps you can find an adult to read and explain for you a few of the posts you were unable to understand.
 
Jackanory said:
We think the implied structure in your game/fairytale is more in comparison with Jacks beanstork, which may come as a surprise to you as also having no relevence to WTC 1 or 2.

The only challenge here Heiwa is to see how long you can realistically continue with your fairytale.
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Well, when the real engineers at the ASCE journal take him apart, he will start a thread calling them religious fundamentalists. His mindless parrots will--surprise!-- agree.
 
bill smith said:
I sometimes get the impression that they were very determiined to keep damage to adjacent non-WTC buildings to an absolute minimum. Remember when the top of WTC2 started to tip over and it looked like it would fall off to one side ? In my mind's eye I can virtually see the guy pushing the button that blew the rest of the building underneath away allowing the tipping section to fall straight down. That was a dead giveaway. Even on the day I noticed that. Maybe in WTC1 they didn't want the 30-storey antenna to fall independently.
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I don't suppose you really believe any of the above, considering any "inside job" conspiracy to demolish the Twins would be 100% impossible, so I ask again:

What is your agenda?
 
Oh, and heiwa? Seeing as how you have more than once not responded to this question:
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Considering what you propose did not take place with either of the Twin Towers, what is the point of your "challenge?"
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...I'll consider it answered. Silence being deafening and all that.
 
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