The Heiwa Challenge

[beachnut]

I sometimes get the impression that they were very determiined to keep damage to adjacent non-WTC buildings to an absolute minimum. Remember when the top of WTC2 started to tip over and it looked like it would fall off to one side ? In my mind's eye I can virtually see the guy pushing the button that blew the rest of the building underneath away allowing the tipping section to fall straight down. That was a dead giveaway. Even on the day I noticed that. Maybe in WTC1 they didn't want the 30-storey antenna to fall independently.

Do you make up this moronic lie, or did you copy and paste it from other liars? That was the dumbest statement you can make about structures. Your post is a dead giveaway you don't know what you are talking about.

You make up lies for a gravity collapse due to fire and impacts caused by terrorist you apologize for and spit on the graves of those who died because you make this up without evidence. No evidence; 7 years and no clue from you. You could learn here but you post lies instead.

 

[Tweeter]

Could we get back to the topic of this thread?
Have any debunkers even tried to complete the challenge?

 

[dtugg]

Could we get back to the topic of this thread?
Have any debunkers even tried to complete the challenge?

Why would anybody waste all the time and money necessary to enter Heiwa's fraudulent challenge just win an argument with some loons on the internet? Now if he weren't a fraud and a liar, and actually had and was willing to put up a million dollars, that would be a different story.

 

[tuc0]

Could we get back to the topic of this thread?
Have any debunkers even tried to complete the challenge?

When Myriad accepted the challenge Heiwa started changing the "rules" and ran away. There have been others... with the same result.

 

[Heiwa]

Could we get back to the topic of this thread?
Have any debunkers even tried to complete the challenge?

Good idea. So far a couple of OCTists have proposed some 'structures', none of which, where part C can one-way crush down part A as per post #1 - unchanged since start! And Heiwa never runs away! All serious proposals/questions/suggestions on topic are attended to in this thread.

It seems that part C cannot apply sufficient energy on the structure that exceeds the strain energy that part A can absorb! So no one-way crush down takes place or part C is destroyed.

The result so far of The Heiwa Challenge thus invalidates the NIST proposal in its WTC 1/2 reports (just 10 000+ pages) that global collapse should ensue.

 

[Tweeter]

Why would anybody waste all the time and money necessary to enter Heiwa's fraudulent challenge just win an argument with some loons on the internet? Now if he weren't a fraud and a liar, and actually had and was willing to put up a million dollars, that would be a different story.

Some debunkers have wasted years of there lives here arguing 911 cts.
Prove him wrong and end all the debates. You`d be a hero.

 

[GlennB]

Prove him wrong and end all the debates. You`d be a hero.

Or you'd be the idiot who wasted $000's and weeks of your life building a large, dangerous structure to debunk a proven fraudster.

 

[dtugg]

Some debunkers have wasted years of there lives here arguing 911 cts.
Prove him wrong and end all the debates. You`d be a hero.

A hero for proving Heiwa wrong. LOL! Everybody here with a properly functioning brain already knows that Heiwa has no idea what he is talking about. I mean, this is a guy that thinks massive skyscrapers are comparable to pizza boxes, lemons, and sponges. Why would anybody waste thousands of dollars of their own money to prove the glaringly obvious?

 

[bill smith]

A hero for proving Heiwa wrong. LOL! Everybody here with a properly functioning brain already knows that Heiwa has no idea what he is talking about. I mean, this is a guy that thinks massive skyscrapers are comparable to pizza boxes, lemons, and sponges. Why would anybody waste thousands of dollars of their own money to prove the glaringly obvious?

At the end of the day it's Bazant's reply to Heiwa's paper that will count. He is in the hot seat now. If he declines to answer we will automatically have our confirmation. If he does answer we will see just how much further he can stretch credibiility. He does not have forever to answer either.Not if he wants to look honest.

 

[Heiwa]

Why would anybody waste all the time and money necessary to enter Heiwa's fraudulent challenge just win an argument with some loons on the internet? Now if he weren't a fraud and a liar, and actually had and was willing to put up a million dollars, that would be a different story.

The Heiwa Challenge is practical - just a real structure. No calculations.

The big prize - $1M - has been offered in another thread to some persons, if they can prove a 3-D one-way crush down by gravity theoretically, e.g. how a 3-D structure of n number of material points linked viscoelastically together to make up the structure can be one-way crushed down by a part C (with 0.1 n material points) being dropped on part A (with 0.9 n material points) of same structure, where part A previously carried part C, etc. Quite difficult!

If you start in 1-D with n material points on two vertical strings A below fixed to ground, C above, first fixed to A and then floating, dropped on A, you'll find what the forces developing in the A and C strings do and how the energy applied is absorbed in the links as deformations or failure. As we are in 1-D, when failure occurs, the failure will provoke a new drop (distance of link), etc. Can top string C one-way crush bottom string A in 1-D?

If you think so, then you shall develop your model into 2-D - two vertical sheets of material points A and C colliding along upper edge of A. Then the upper sheet C have the possibility to spill out sideways outside A and you will learn a lot!

The ultimate challenge is the 3-D model! But all this is off topic for this thread. Here you just shall produce a real structure - no calculations are required.

 

[dtugg]

At the end of the day it's Bazant's reply to Heiwa's paper that will count. He is in the hot seat now. If he declines to answer we will automatically have our confirmation. If he does answer we will see just how much further he can stretch credibiility. He dos not have forever to answer either.Not if he wants to look honest.

How are you able to function in society being the way you are? Well, I suppose I may be giving you too much credit by assuming that you are able to function.

 

[dtugg]

The Heiwa Challenge is practical - just a real structure. No calculations.

The big prize - $1M - has been offered in another thread to some persons, if they can prove a 3-D one-way crush down by gravity theoretically, e.g. how a 3-D structure of n number of material points linked viscoelastically together to make up the structure can be one-way crushed down by a part C (with 0.1 n material points) being dropped on part A (with 0.9 n material points) of same structure, where part A previously carried part C, etc. Quite difficult!

If you start in 1-D with n material points on two vertical strings A below fixed to ground, C above, first fixed to A and then floating, dropped on A, you'll find what the forces developing in the A and C strings do and how the energy applied is absorbed in the links as deformations or failure. As we are in 1-D, when failure occurs, the failure will provoke a new drop (distance of link), etc. Can top string C one-way crush bottom string A in 1-D?

If you think so, then you shall develop your model into 2-D - two vertical sheets of material points A and C colliding along upper edge of A. Then the upper sheet C have the possibility to spill out sideways outside A and you will learn a lot!

The ultimate challenge is the 3-D model! But all this is off topic for this thread. Here you just shall produce a real structure - no calculations are required.

You offered a million dollars in this thread to anybody who could disprove your retarded axiom. Beating your stupid challenge would simultaneously disprove your moronic axiom. But since you are a liar and a fraud and don't even have a million dollars, you are furiously backing out. This is plain as day to anybody who is not one of your few mindless followers.

 

[bill smith]

How are you able to function in society being the way you are? Well, I suppose I may be giving you too much credit by assuming that you are able to function.

How Bazant must love this. He has been forced to accept the challenge that none here have come close to meeting. I wonder if he looks in here from time to time to see if anybody comes up with something he might be able to use ?

I'm pretty sure this was not supposed to happen. The local OCT engineers had better get their fingers out if they want to assist Bazant in his rebuttal of Heiwa's paper.

 

[dtugg]

How Bazant must love this. He has been forced to accept the challenge that none here have come close to meeting. I wonder if he looks in here from time to time to see if anybody comes up with something he might be able to use ?

I'm pretty sure this was not supposed to happen. The local OCT engineers had better get their fingers out if they want to assist Bazant in his rebuttal of Heiwa's paper.

You see bill, things like this are what have me wonder if you serious. It's hard to imagine that somebody could actually be the way that present yourself as. Anyway...

On one hand we have a world renowned structural engineer.

On the other we have a know nothing fraud who thinks massive skyscrapers are comparable to stacks of pizza boxes, lemons, and sponges.

I'm sure Bazant is quaking in his boots.

 

[GlennB]

You see bill, things like this are what have me wonder if you serious. It's hard to imagine that somebody could actually be the way that present yourself as. Anyway...

Bill is consciously and deliberately adopting the single most irritating and provocative position he can dream up, post to post. It's his idea of fun.

 

[funk de fino]

Bill is consciously and deliberately adopting the single most irritating and provocative position he can dream up, post to post. It's his idea of fun.

Possibly a turn on for him.

 

[tfk]

Could we get back to the topic of this thread?
Have any debunkers even tried to complete the challenge?

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Several of us have attempted to discuss specific details of his challenge. He simply refuses to discuss any issue that shows that his thesis is nonsense. He simply refuses to acknowledge or discuss the numerous errors in his statements.

And simply returns to "Rainman-ing" his assertion.

This isn't "winning an argument". This is Heiwa, sticking his fingers in his ears while his arguments get drawn & quartered. And then claiming victory.

This has been his constant, trollish behavior that has the veteran posters here so jaded with the thought of any more discussion with him.

And nobody else on his side (your side, too?) of the argument has the technical competence to even attempt to defend anything.

The monologue from the local & nonlocal experts on mechanics & structures - that his "axiom" is a load of hogwash - has been well & truly rendered.

Please tell me, Tweets, where is the dialog supposed to come from?

tom

PS. Were you the person in class who always got his butt whomped for being the class tattle tale (aka, "reporting to the mods")?

 

[tfk]

Bill is consciously and deliberately adopting the single most irritating and provocative position he can dream up, post to post. It's his idea of fun.

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And since knowledge, reason & facts are beyond his capacity and honesty beyond his concern, this is his only remaining tactic.

Not a pretty site.

But there's always a "lol" around the corner...

tom

 

[bill smith]

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And since knowledge, reason & facts are beyond his capacity and honesty beyond his concern, this is his only remaining tactic.

Not a pretty site.

But there's always a "lol" around the corner...

tom

Especially for you T.- because you're worth it.

 

[Justin39640]

is the Hewia challenge about a structure like this?

doesn't sound like it