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Airplanes can bury themselves completely in the ground.

Very. But it is how they think. Too bad they aren't actually interested in the truth.

Excuse me. I need to wash my hands again. Maybe get a new keyboard..
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I'll be stunned if he actually shows one.
Me too.
I just thought I'd add my voice to those asking. It seems he's determined to ignore the evidence that's already been provided, and I see no reason for Beachnut to be forced to repost it, only for it to likely be ignored again. If I had a video that I thought made any kind of relevant point to a discussion, I wouldn't make myself look like a twit by extensively avoiding having to post it. I'd just post it. No pre-conditions, no stipulations. It would be worth posting it to prove those who doubted me wrong.
:)
 
Morning Red, at least you're acknowledging the pictures, even if you're experiencing some cognitive dissonance which prevents you from accepting the real and obvious implications of them.

You didn't respond to my question yesterday, which was 'what do you think happened at Shanksville, and why?'.

I was trying to find out what possible reason one would have for clinging (as you and Bill apparently do) to such an odd myth, if I perceive it correctly, that no plane crashed at Shanksville.

What I don't understand is WHY it's so important for truthers to believe that there were no planes at PA and the pentagon, or even at the WTC towers, in order to believe in a government conspiracy. I guess one mistake I'm making is that I'm trying to assign some kind of rational, logical basis for these beliefs on your behalfs.
So I'll address this to the others - if one were to be suspicious of the US gubmint, why not just simply assume that 'they' set up the hijackers to crash the planes in the first place?
Instead, because the 'truth' movment became all-inclusive to all manner of wild speculation and misinterpretation, a kind of truther liturgy has emerged. Thus, a devotee of the truther cult is compelled to believe all sorts of clearly false and ridiculous myths, and will defend those myths in the face of irrefutable evidence to the contrary.

The last resort of the truther cultist is to deny such evidence by claiming it was faked or planted. Truthers are simply not equipped to handle the truth.

One can hypothesize that such unchangeable belief systems must have had some kind of survival advantage during human evolution. Maybe some people are incapable of resisting such compulsive beliefs, no matter how incorrect they are.

But if that is the case, it underlines the necessity of countering 9/11 truther myths as they appear in media, as there are obviously people out there who will buy into them on faith alone. That could be very dangerous given enough followers, esp. when you consider the NWO, anti-Jewish paranoid mantra that goes along with 9/11 'truth'.

Most of us recognize that flight 93 did in fact crash at Shanksville, because there's plenty of evidence to confirm it did. Bill and Red are followers of a cult which denies that it crashed, therefore they must deny it too.

It seems pretty obvious to me that this is cult indoctrination. Are there any specialists at deprogramming these cultists yet? If not there should be.

Red and Bill, get help.
 
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Me too.
I just thought I'd add my voice to those asking. It seems he's determined to ignore the evidence that's already been provided, and I see no reason for Beachnut to be forced to repost it, only for it to likely be ignored again. If I had a video that I thought made any kind of relevant point to a discussion, I wouldn't make myself look like a twit by extensively avoiding having to post it. I'd just post it. No pre-conditions, no stipulations. It would be worth posting it to prove those who doubted me wrong.
:)

Now that is a sane position,BS' is not. He'll post the vid, when this happens.


 
Morning Red, at least you're acknowledging the pictures, even if you're experiencing some cognitive dissonance which prevents you from accepting the real and obvious implications of them.

You didn't respond to my question yesterday, which was 'what do you think happened at Shanksville, and why?'.

I was trying to find out what possible reason one would have for clinging (as you and Bill apparently do) to such an odd myth, if I perceive it correctly, that no plane crashed at Shanksville.

What I don't understand is WHY it's so important for truthers to believe that there were no planes at PA and the pentagon, or even at the WTC towers, in order to believe in a government conspiracy. I guess one mistake I'm making is that I'm trying to assign some kind of rational, logical basis for these beliefs on your behalfs.
So I'll address this to the others - if one were to be suspicious of the US gubmint, why not just simply assume that 'they' set up the hijackers to crash the planes in the first place?
Instead, because the 'truth' movment became all-inclusive to all manner of wild speculation and misinterpretation, a kind of truther liturgy has emerged. Thus, a devotee of the truther cult is compelled to believe all sorts of clearly false and ridiculous myths, and will defend those myths in the face of irrefutable evidence to the contrary.

The last resort of the truther cultist is to deny such evidence by claiming it was faked or planted. Truthers are simply not equipped to handle the truth.

One can hypothesize that such unchangeable belief systems must have had some kind of survival advantage during human evolution. Maybe some people are incapable of resisting such compulsive beliefs, no matter how incorrect they are.

But if that is the case, it underlines the necessity of countering 9/11 truther myths as they appear in media, as there are obviously people out there who will buy into them on faith alone. That could be very dangerous given enough followers, esp. when you consider the NWO, anti-Jewish paranoid mantra that goes along with 9/11 'truth'.

Most of us recognize that flight 93 did in fact crash at Shanksville, because there's plenty of evidence to confirm it did. Bill and Red are followers of a cult which denies that it crashed, therefore they must deny it too.

It seems pretty obvious to me that this is cult indoctrination. Are there any specialists at deprogramming these cultists yet? If not there should be.

Red and Bill, get help.

You could have just posted the part that I bolded for you and still had the same message. That is all it really comes down to. These individuals need help from a mental health professional.
 
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Me too.
I just thought I'd add my voice to those asking. It seems he's determined to ignore the evidence that's already been provided, and I see no reason for Beachnut to be forced to repost it, only for it to likely be ignored again. If I had a video that I thought made any kind of relevant point to a discussion, I wouldn't make myself look like a twit by extensively avoiding having to post it. I'd just post it. No pre-conditions, no stipulations. It would be worth posting it to prove those who doubted me wrong.
:)

Oh well....Beachnut is obviously a dead loss. I can bring his shame to an end now.
Enjoy....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59kouBgO_s&feature=related
 
That's it?

That's what you think proves your case?

You're worse off than I thought, mate. You need real help.

The USGS picture does NOT match up with the crater. As even a mental deficient could see.

Wow.

Pathetic.
 
Oh well....Beachnut is obviously a dead loss. I can bring his shame to an end now.
Enjoy....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59kouBgO_s&feature=related


From your video

flight93wingimpact.jpg
 
Oh well....Beachnut is obviously a dead loss. I can bring his shame to an end now.
Enjoy....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59kouBgO_s&feature=related

Ahh... Argument from incredulity. So.. EVERYONE there is 'in on it', since they recovered aircraft parts, body parts, DNA.

So.. there was supposed to be a raging fire? and what was supposed to burn for an extended time like the towers? Perhaps if they crashed into metal field covered in office furniture...

So then, Bill, since you believe that no plane crashed there..


Provide the evidence on flight 93's final destination. That is all that is needed to prove the inside job, and proof on where flight 93 finally ended up. Where is it? Evidence shows flight 93 at shanksville, but no where else.

We follow the evidence. Where is yours?
 
That's it?

That's what you think proves your case?

You're worse off than I thought, mate. You need real help.

The USGS picture does NOT match up with the crater. As even a mental deficient could see.

Wow.

Pathetic.

Kind of another amazing 9/11 coincidence though isn't it....that the plane would hit an existing scar so accurately eaving it virtually the exact same shape. Almost unbelievable I'd say........lol
 
Kind of another amazing 9/11 coincidence though isn't it....that the plane would hit an existing scar so accurately eaving it virtually the exact same shape. Almost unbelievable I'd say........lol

So where is your evidence that flight 93 ended up somewhere other than Shanksville?

Good solid evidence. Thats all we need to be convinced.
 
Kind of another amazing 9/11 coincidence though isn't it....that the plane would hit an existing scar so accurately eaving it virtually the exact same shape. Almost unbelievable I'd say........lol

Given the tons of evidence and the eyewitnesses we have, so what?
 

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