CIT presentation in Arlington VA

[JoeyDonuts]

I think we should let some of our friends in the Military, especially those who lost buddies on 9/11, know about this one...

Noted. Printed out and filed under "Not Worth My Damn Time."

 

[1337m4n]

1. explain when you intend to torrent all your raw video so that we investigators can objectively analyze your ground breaking "evidence."

This.

I know you're reading this Craig. You keep bragging about your 14 groundbreaking witness interviews--why are only four of these publicly available on video?

 

[R.Mackey]

I didn't know anybody still paid attention to Craig and Waldo...

However, I can't think of a good reason not to inform their chosen witnesses whose statements they plan to use. Surely it's in their personal interest to know what's going on in their names. Quite strange if they're not already on the list, if not asked to speak.

 

[chillzero]

Guys, don't be holding cross-forum discussions. Don't be posting for them by proxy either, by quoting them in order to respond here. Talk to them wherever they are. Otherwise this thread will likely be locked by the mods.

 

[T.A.M.]

Guys, don't be holding cross-forum discussions. Don't be posting for them by proxy either, by quoting them in order to respond here. Talk to them wherever they are. Otherwise this thread will likely be locked by the mods.

You know what they say...

"You can take the woman out of the moderator, but you can't take the moderator out of the woman."....er something like that.

TAM

 

[Mr.Herbert]

There was a comment by a certain truther that got me thinking and I am going to contact the NRECA regarding this to see if they understand what is taking place.
NRECA Conference Center • 4301 Wilson Blvd. • Arlington, VA 22203. Phone: (703) 907-5939 • Fax: (703) 907-6885 • E-mail: ConferenceCenter@nreca.coop.

I went to the website to check the place out. It looks like a very nice facility to hold a conference in. So, I was thinking; how could these dolts afford such a nice place to hold their tree fort meeting. Then I read this:

Community Usage

The NRECA Conference Center is available at no charge to Arlington County Non-profit and Community Groups during 75% of the Off-Peak Time. Please call for more information at (703) 907-5939 or Apply On-Line by requesting your event.

I'm wondering if they some how weaseled their way into getting a discount?


Either way, I will be sending them an e-mail expressing my displeasure with them hosting this pathetic "event."

 

[Bobert]

I am sure it is here somewhere, under one of the threads he made as Lytetrip.

I even started posting the number of days on the thread.

TAM

Edit: HE was banned. I am not sure, but do they delete threads started by banned members?

A google search reveals one of the threads which he may have said it in (it has been so long now), but a click on it brings up 404

http://www.randi.org/forumlive/showthread.php?t=69943&page=46

We do know that he posted this.
More importantly though as he began his, "investigation" he would tell his real life co-workers on an almost daily basis about how trials would begin as a result of what he was doing.
Craig is a delusional FRAUD.

 

[Bobert]

Here is one post along the lines of what I was referring to. It was spawned by an original post where Lyte claimed his earth shattering evidence was gonna result in arrests, and trials, or some sort...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80091



TAM

Your clock was the greatest ever because it put the spotlight on what he said and what he said would happen.

 

[Bobert]

National Security Briefing Sensitive Information

Oh man this deserves a trio of LD's!

 

[Klimax]

Could somebody look at my reply to Reheat? I suspect I have errors/mistakes there.
Since roundhead is no longer around,nothing should interfere...

Thanks.

That's a good guess!

At what point do the wings fail?

Where is the failure?

Does one or both fail catastrophically or gradually?

Remember, if there is no video, the failure was caused by a "beam weapon".

ETA: We could always let pffft do the calculations and they never fail on this depicted approach. They only fail on the "hockey stick" approach!

I think (I am no engineer or any other expert on matter) that it would be more instant fail if it would be significantly above "hard" limit,which it appears to be case. If "where" is 'Where in the proposed flight path it occures?' , then my nonexpert answer would be around the point with writtent words 'saw the north' as it appears to have peak of curve.

However if question is 'Where is the fracture point of the wonf on the plane?' then I don't know answer,at least at this time.

'Hocky stick' approach would definitly end in Pentagon or if frame would magically held then turn everybody into mess...

Note: I am no expert, I can only use what I remember from physics clases which I took before change of "carrier" including some laboratory experiments.

 

[Macgyver1968]

So why did Roundhead get banned?

 

[Mr.Herbert]

He's been suspended 8 times prior to his ban. Repeated breach of his membership agreement.

 

[bje]

Cit is open to any 9/11 truth.

We know. There is no such thing as "9/11 Truth."

Thanks for sticking your foot in your mouth again.

 

[Reheat]

Could somebody look at my reply to Reheat?

Klimax, I think you're taking this too seriously. I don't believe one could predict the precise answer to those questions I asked without the manufacturer's testing data. That's why I asked the questions, just to illustrate that point.

Even during accident investigations I don't believe Boeing (for example) turns over their testing data to the NTSB, they provide assistance in the way of their employees to help the NTSB, but not their test data. If I'm wrong about this, perhaps someone will correct me, but I think that's the way it works.

Even with the testing data there are still too many variables to be able to predict accurately. Numbers of TO/Landing cycles play a role, as does previous stresses such as an over G in turbulence, etc. Whether the G's are asymmetrical (rolling G) or symmetrical would also be a factor. Chances are likely it would involve a catastrophic failure, but precisely how, when, and where would just be an educated guess. That's the reason nobody with any sense plays around with G limits in transport category aircraft.

Since you're interested this perhaps we can persuade R. Mackey to comment as he likely knows more about this area than I do.

 

[tfk]

http://www.twf.org/News/Y2009/0711-Pentagon.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/CITPath12g.jpg
The dolts post a flier with a 12.9g turn that takes 85.6 degree of bank angle to complete ignoring the fact you can't roll in fast enough in a 757 to do the turn in the first place and the wings will most likely snap off at 7.635gs. What did you come up with expert 911 moronic idea supporter?

I am only a SAC trained killer with a masters in engineering who can fly 300,000 pound planes with precision; I find it hard to argue with idiots with delusions I image the press would be unprepared also. Why do you support the idiots with delusions on 911?

Wait just a gall dang minute...

These dolts show the plane coming at the Pentagon, about 85° (almost perpendicular) to the external wall. And show that flight path continuing into the building.

The Pentagon BPR says, "Most of the serious structural damage was within a swath that was approximately 75 to 80 ft wide and extended approxi- mately 230 ft into the first floor of the building. This swath was oriented at approximately 35to 40 degrees to the perpendicular to the exterior wall of the Pentagon."

Their flight path (both before AND INSIDE the building) requires the plane to make about a 400G, 30° - 35° left turn AS it is crashing into the building...

Or else, it follows their flight path, makes two 100G (R then L) turns over the lawn in order to be able to hit the entrance hole & be on the right mag heading.

Yeah, right...

Sorry, just my sudden realization... You guys have undoubtedly covered this before.

tom

 

[beachnut]

Wait just a gall dang minute...

These dolts show the plane coming at the Pentagon, about 85° (almost perpendicular) to the external wall. And show that flight path continuing into the building.

The Pentagon BPR says, "Most of the serious structural damage was within a swath that was approximately 75 to 80 ft wide and extended approxi- mately 230 ft into the first floor of the building. This swath was oriented at approximately 35to 40 degrees to the perpendicular to the exterior wall of the Pentagon."

Their flight path (both before AND INSIDE the building) requires the plane to make about a 400G, 30° - 35° left turn AS it is crashing into the building...

Or else, it follows their flight path, makes two 100G (R then L) turns over the lawn in order to be able to hit the entrance hole & be on the right mag heading.

Yeah, right...

Sorry, just my sudden realization... You guys have undoubtedly covered this before.

tom

I was letting the NoC flight path cross the impact zone any old direction for the 12g turn.

I was giving them a zero time roll-in/roll-out bank with 12gs which does not include turning back to make the impact damage correct; it is impossible with a 757 to make a switch back turn to make the damage pattern correct from any NoC flight path.

Yes to make a damage patter and fly the delusional terrorist loyalist Balsamo approved mental illness paranoid nut case flight path known as NoC takes lots more Gs.

 

[Bobert]

I think I will go to some forums and post their annoucement.
I want to get some professional there that might disagree with them.
At the same time though I dont want to spam a professional forum with this crap.
Any suggestions?
How about groups around that area that might be interested?
At the very least maybe Aldo would get arrested for assault if he decides to physically remove anyone he disagrees with.
Is this the new CIT moto, "agree with us or we physically toss you out"?
Hmmmmm isn't this the sort of behavior that truthers cry out against?
Freedom of speech and stuff?
I cant wait until they have a socal event.

 

[Sparky]

I cant wait until they have a socal event.

I'll have to go to that one, too.

 

[beachnut]

I think (I am no engineer or any other expert on matter) that it would be more instant fail if it would be significantly above "hard" limit,which it appears to be case. If "where" is 'Where in the proposed flight path it occures?' , then my nonexpert answer would be around the point with writtent words 'saw the north' as it appears to have peak of curve.

However if question is 'Where is the fracture point of the wonf on the plane?' then I don't know answer,at least at this time.

'Hocky stick' approach would definitly end in Pentagon or if frame would magically held then turn everybody into mess...

Note: I am no expert, I can only use what I remember from physics clases which I took before change of "carrier" including some laboratory experiments.

Wing breaks at 2:29 into video; maybe 7.2 gs.

150 percent load of 777 wing design max load.

 

[Alt+F4]

How about groups around that area that might be interested?

Arlington County Fire Department
Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Department
District of Columbia Fire Department
Fort Myer Fire Department