Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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Here is the 56% ratio, and the template for it.


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Wow, good job William and great info on the swamp KK. Thanks so much.
 
WGBH said:
The researcher that contacted me was a Female and she was from Tennessee.
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I think I know who your interviewer was and if it is who I think it is you're fortunate you didn't bond with her, you could have gone down a totally different path.
 
Blackdog said:
I think I know who your interviewer was and if it is who I think it is you're fortunate you didn't bond with her, you could have gone down a totally different path.
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Yes you do know who she is and you are right on the nose.
 
The cartoon Sasquatch is very close to a 66% ratio. If the shoulders were 6' on your BF, then this is your creature (proportionally).


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Here's a rough and ready diagram showing that Sasquatch's physique meets the given parameters very well.



I'm having a hard time picturing a creature that looks significantly different from that, yet still matches all of the stated characteristics (9' by 6', bipedal, ape-like, huge chest, narrow waist, etc.)
 
cos said:
Here's a rough and ready diagram showing that Sasquatch's physique meets the given parameters very well.

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I'm having a hard time picturing a creature that looks significantly different from that, yet still matches all of the stated characteristics (9' by 6', bipedal, ape-like, huge chest, narrow waist, etc.)
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There you go. Great diagram, cos. That's exactly what I was talking about. I too can't really imagine anything very different from what John has described. As soon as I read the description I immediately thought of Marvel's Sasquatch.
 
Then I heard it before I saw it, snapping twigs as it walked, at first I thought it was my friend and his dad, come to rescue me from this ordeal. I only saw it from the waist up, from a distance of about 50 yards. And if It knew I was there, It didn't care. It stood in one spot for a good 5 minutes eating leaves, so I got a good look at it.
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You got a good look at a creature you only saw from the waist up that was 50 yards away, in a forest, surrounded by trees and brush? You folks have a have a heck of a lot better eyesight(not to mention smell) than I do. 50 yards is half a football field.

And why have you been traumatized for 25 years, and driven to alcoholism over such an uneventful sighting? I mean, I could understand it if the creature attacked you and tried to rip you to shreds, but all that happened was you saw it eating leaves. I'd love to get that chance, especially if I was hunting. I'd put an end to this debate once and for all.

As an aside, when I was 12, a friend and me saw a flash of light in the woods near my house one evening that we couldn't explain. Scared us pretty good at the time, but we weren't scarred for life over it. Several years later, saw the light again, but this time, knowing a little more about the area, I realized it was coming from car lights on a road that was on the other side of the woods that I didn't know about when I was younger.

As for the Great Dismal Swamp area, there was a forest fire there a few years ago that they struggled to put out because it had gotten into the peat. Once that happens, those fires can burn for a long time. There were firefighters all throughout that area, and forestry planes were constantly flying over and dropping water. None of them saw a bigfoot.
 
So, you guys think I saw a member of Alpha Flight that was vacationing in the Dismal Swamp? :D

Seriously, I am not following where this line of questioning is headed. I said 5 or 6 ft wide. So maybe it was 5 1/2? Guys the point I was trying to make is that this animal was MASSIVE.

If you are just using the comic character as a size reference then yes it was that big.
 
WGBH said:
So, you guys think I saw a member of Alpha Flight that was vacationing in the Dismal Swamp? :D

Seriously, I am not following where this line of questioning is headed. I said 5 or 6 ft wide. So maybe it was 5 1/2? Guys the point I was trying to make is that this animal was MASSIVE.

If you are just using the comic character as a size reference then yes it was that big.
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That's what I'm talking about.

John, for people who might not be inclined can you give a detailed description that elaborates on this:

- massive
- huge chest, shoulders, muscles
- narrow waist
- 9ft tall x 5 1/2 - 6 feet wide
- dark colour
 
It must be extremely challenging for that creature to move through the forest. It cannot pass through tree branches like magic. The neck is inflexible so it must bend at the waist to avoid busting its head on any branch lower than 9'. I can't foresee any rapid movements (run) inside a forest as an option for this guy.
 
xblade said:
You got a good look at a creature you only saw from the waist up that was 50 yards away, in a forest, surrounded by trees and brush? You folks have a have a heck of a lot better eyesight(not to mention smell) than I do. 50 yards is half a football field.

First of all, that statement is from the BFRO report. I mentioned earlier that the other article was more detailed. I said 50 yards initially but it may have been closer if you take into account I was 10 feet high up in a tree. This was covered in detail by the article. I saw the creature very well and also smelled the odor.

And why have you been traumatized for 25 years, and driven to alcoholism over such an uneventful sighting? I mean, I could understand it if the creature attacked you and tried to rip you to shreds, but all that happened was you saw it eating leaves. I'd love to get that chance, especially if I was hunting. I'd put an end to this debate once and for all.

I never said it was my Bigfoot sighting that drove me to alcoholism. I mentioned that I one time suffered from it.

I have no idea why I was so traumatized. Maybe because we all deal with situations differently? Maybe because I had never been in the woods before? Maybe because I was a boy and I had a 9 foot monster standing right there in front of me? Maybe because I am a big baby? Are you a psychologist? If so, I welcome your opinion. If not you can keep it.

As an aside, when I was 12, a friend and me saw a flash of light in the woods near my house one evening that we couldn't explain. Scared us pretty good at the time, but we weren't scarred for life over it. Several years later, saw the light again, but this time, knowing a little more about the area, I realized it was coming from car lights on a road that was on the other side of the woods that I didn't know about when I was younger.

I'm glad you were not scared for life. I do not get the relevance of this story to my sighting

As for the Great Dismal Swamp area, there was a forest fire there a few years ago that they struggled to put out because it had gotten into the peat. Once that happens, those fires can burn for a long time. There were firefighters all throughout that area, and forestry planes were constantly flying over and dropping water. None of them saw a bigfoot.
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Yes there was a fire there. We choked on the smoke from the fire here all summer. Were you also aware that there were a few sightings recorded in Suffolk, VA that summer? I would know this because the reports came into our research group. Suffolk is North of the swamp on the VA side.
 
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That's what I'm talking about.

John, for people who might not be inclined can you give a detailed description that elaborates on this:

- massive
- huge chest, shoulders, muscles
- narrow waist
- 9ft tall x 5 1/2 - 6 feet wide
- dark colour
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The facial features? It had dark eyes (no whites) It had a conical shape to the head that sloped down to a huge brow ridge. It had a wide flat nose. I could not see any ears, perhaps the hair covered them. The skin color under the fur was also a black/dark brown color, just like the fur.

Remember I never saw anything below the waist level. Let me know if I can describe more.
 
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William Parcher said:
It must be extremely challenging for that creature to move through the forest. It cannot pass through tree branches like magic. The neck is inflexible so it must bend at the waist to avoid busting its head on any branch lower than 9'. I can't foresee any rapid movements (run) inside a forest as an option for this guy.
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That's right. I'm going to proceed with the idea that John saw what he says he saw - a 9ft x 6ft sasquatch in the swamp. I need to begin trying to wrap my mind around how we miss these things.

John, I don't expect you to have these answer, BTW.

These things are bigger than grizzly bears and living in North Carolina in well travelled areas. Here is the Great Dismal swamp in the winter:

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John saw this thing stripping leaves off a plant the way a gorilla would. If this thing is a herbivore, it has to be eating basically non-stop. If it's omnivorous, what does it eat? I suppose it could pick up one of those horses in that picture and just slam it on the ground and then eat it. It could pick up a bear and eat it as well, I guess. I can't really imagine this thing running around in the swamp after food. I suppose it could throw some boulders or a tree if it liked.

I feel like there are clunking sounds happening in my head and smoke coming out of my ears. I really am hitting a wall with a breeding population of up to 9x6 land mammals that live in areas well traversed by humans yet remain uncatalogued. One of the first videos I linked discussed how think and impenetrable much of the vegetation is around there. If you're 9x6, do you just plow it down like MOTSfoot and clear out all the woodland creatures ahead of you?
 
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William Parcher said:
The artwork recreation shows a creature as shaggy as a yak. Which tendons were visible at a distance of around 50 yards?
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The muscles on the neck, arms and back. Such as the deltoids, lats and triceps. The fur was mated and caked with mud in places. There were also some thinner fur patches where it was easier to view the skin, especially in places on the back. The fur on the depiction is cosmetically neater then the real animal. That artwork is to be used for a book by the artist, so keep that in mind.
 
WGBH said:
The facial features? It had dark eyes (no whites) It had a conical shape to the head that sloped down to a huge brow ridge. It had a wide flat nose. I could not see any ears, perhaps the hair covered them. The skin color under the fur was also a black/dark brown color, just like the fur.

Remember I never saw anything below the waist level. Let me know if I can describe more.
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Thanks. I used to rock at photoshop and it's been a while since I've tried doing anything other than lolbigfoots on a computer. I'm farting around now with Paint taking Sasquatch and cutting him off at the waist and redoing him to your description. How about the shape of the mouth? How could you tell there were no whites to the eyes at 50 yards? I'm trying to visualize that and it's hard.
 
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