Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

[kitakaze]

I was the victim of a ATTEMPTED hoax. It was a laughable attempt at that. Sorry, I am not fooled that easily. I have been out in the field over 30 times now. I have only had possible Bigfoot activity on ONE occasion. ONCE.

Contrary to popular opinion and the claims of some researchers. We do not get much action on most excursions. I DO NOT count, possible screams, whoops and wood knocks as activity. I have lots of those sounds recorded but I simply CANNOT seriously submit something like that as evidence.

Thanks for the clarification. I do not know what you saw but I think you can understand better than anyone that the idea of a species of mammal up to 9ft, 5ft wide living in the swamps of North Carolina is pretty extreme.

Were you in a heightened state of fear before you had your encounter? Your encounter says you were by yourself at the time.

 

[WGBH]

What are the questions you have for which you seek answers?

To know more verifiable information about the animal I witnessed. And to be honest, a little vindication would be nice also.

 

[William Parcher]

To know more verifiable information about the animal I witnessed. And to be honest, a little vindication would be nice also.

So one of your questions is not, "Did I see a Bigfoot?"

 

[WGBH]

Thanks for the clarification. I do not know what you saw but I think you can understand better than anyone that the idea of a species of mammal up to 9ft, 5ft wide living in the swamps of North Carolina is pretty extreme.

Were you in a heightened state of fear before you had your encounter? Your encounter says you were by yourself at the time.

Of course I understand that my claims are difficult to believe, hell they are difficult for me to talk about.

Yes I was alone, unfortunately. I was not frightened until I saw it reach out and grab a branch with a HAND. I could clearly see fingers. That is when the fear hit me and boy it really hit me hard. I was thinking " Holy crap that is Bigfoot".

 

[WGBH]

So one of your questions is not, "Did I see a Bigfoot?"

Absolutely not.

 

[kitakaze]

Of course I understand that my claims are difficult to believe, hell they are difficult for me to talk about.

Yes I was alone, unfortunately. I was not frightened until I saw it reach out and grab a branch with a HAND. I could clearly see fingers. That is when the fear hit me and boy it really hit me hard. I was thinking " Holy crap that is Bigfoot".

OK, the reason I asked if you were in a heightened state of fear was because you were hunting for the first time, your report says you felt scared and out of place being in the woods, and when you first heard the Bigfoot, you thought it was your friend and his dad coming to get you out of their.

The encounter was in 1982, the report submitted to the BFRO in 1998. What lead to you submitting the encounter to the BFRO?

 

[WGBH]

OK, the reason I asked if you were in a heightened state of fear was because you were hunting for the first time, your report says you felt scared and out of place being in the woods, and when you first heard the Bigfoot, you thought it was your friend and his dad coming to get you out of their.

The encounter was in 1982, the report submitted to the BFRO in 1998. What lead to you submitting the encounter to the BFRO?

Yes I was hoping it was my friend and his father because I was ready to leave. I had already been sitting there 4 hours. I was not terrified until I realized what it was I was witnessing.

Before the internet age, I had no idea who to report a Bigfoot encounter to. I googled Bigfoot one day in 1998 and I saw the B.F.R.O. web site and filled out the sighting report form. A few weeks later I was contacted by a researcher and interviewed. After that I never talked about it again until 3 years ago.

 

[WGBH]

John, disregarding the hair, would you say the physique on your sasquatch resembled Sasquatch?

Kitakaze,

If you mean the Marvel Comic book character, No. What I saw looked like a very large primate of some type. Some people try to say they look very human like. IMO what I witnessed looked like a large ape walking bipedal. It did not look or behave to me as a human being.

 

[William Parcher]

Yes I was hoping it was my friend and his father because I was ready to leave. I had already been sitting there 4 hours. I was not terrified until I realized what it was I was witnessing.

Donlon seems to want to suggest that you may have wanted to get out of there because your guts had just been zapped by Bigfoot infrasound. This sent you into a fetal position. "Being there 4 hours and ready to leave" sounds like a big understatement after experiencing what you described. That was before you heard the footsteps.

Add that there was a nauseating stench. Yet it was only the time spent there that had you wanting out?

 

[atpeace]

in 1998 and I saw the B.F.R.O. web site and filled out the sighting report form. A few weeks later I was contacted by a researcher and interviewed. After that I never talked about it again until 3 years ago.

(Boldface mine)

Would you explain what that (researcher interview) was like please? Questions asked? Thoroughness? Interviewer's knowledge of the area, wilderness, wildlife, etc. Stuff like that.

Also, did you not feel comfortable connecting somehow (over time) with this researcher, being the first person you could share this nightmare with who might understand or maybe offer you some vindication?

I am sincere and not in attack mode either

thank you,
ap

 

[kitakaze]

Kitakaze,

If you mean the Marvel Comic book character, No. What I saw looked like a very large primate of some type. Some people try to say they look very human like. IMO what I witnessed looked like a large ape walking bipedal. It did not look or behave to me as a human being.

I didn't mean the superficial appearance, I meant the physique. Your Bigfoot was 9 ft tall and at least 5ft wide with a huge chest and shoulders and a narrow waist like a swimmer's body.

Somebody can beat me to this but we really need a grapic up with a 5'8" human next to a 9 ft tall 5-6 ft wide humanoid, preferably with a third image of the human positioned horizontally lengthwise across the width of the humanoid.

ETA: This is the graphic Eugenie Scott used in her lecture:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/bigfoot-size.jpg

Too tall and not wide enough.

 

[WGBH]

Donlon seems to want to suggest that you may have wanted to get out of there because your guts had just been zapped by Bigfoot infrasound. This sent you into a fetal position. "Being there 4 hours and ready to leave" sounds like a big understatement after experiencing what you described. That was before you heard the footsteps.

Add that there was a nauseating stench. Yet it was only the time spent there that had you wanting out?

Nope, you are correct. I was not feeling well after the smell and possible infrasound attack. That added to my desire to want to leave of course.

I have no idea what happened to me during that "infrasound" episode prior to my sighting. I can only describe what it felt like. Some people have a theory of pheromones too. Your guess is as good as mine.

I also had no idea that the "infrasound" had any connection to my actual Bigfoot sighting. In fact, I never referred to it much when discussing my encounter with the BFRO researcher. I just mentioned that I felt ill from the smell. I only made the connection after learning about the theory.

 

[WGBH]

I didn't mean the superficial appearance, I meant the physique. Your Bigfoot was 9 ft tall and at least 5ft wide with a huge chest and shoulders and a narrow waist like a swimmer's body.

Somebody can beat me to this but we really need a grapic up with a 5'8" human next to a 9 ft tall 5-6 ft wide humanoid, preferably with a third image of the human positioned horizontally lengthwise across the width of the humanoid.

Never caught the connection before, but OK. I thought you meant superficial, sorry.

 

[William Parcher]

I have this, but the shoulders on the creatures here are far too narrow (relative to their height) to fit John's description.

 

[WGBH]

(Boldface mine)

Would you explain what that (researcher interview) was like please? Questions asked? Thoroughness? Interviewer's knowledge of the area, wilderness, wildlife, etc. Stuff like that.

Also, did you not feel comfortable connecting somehow (over time) with this researcher, being the first person you could share this nightmare with who might understand or maybe offer you some vindication?

I am sincere and not in attack mode either

thank you,
ap

The researcher that contacted me was a Female and she was from Tennessee. So, I would assume her knowledge of North Carolina to be limited. The questions she asked me were very basic. The entire interview did not last more then a half hour. I never spoke to her again after the interview and we did no bonding. I did not share with her anything about my nightmares. We mostly talked about my description of the animal. Also take note that no researchers notes about the interview were ever added to my sighting report as has been done with other reports. What you read on that BFRO report is what I wrote myself.

 

[William Parcher]

Here is a template for a 9' standing biped that has 6' shoulders (or any 66% ratio). One could also be made for a 56% ratio (9' x 5'). Draw the standing BF inside the box with head touching the top and shoulders touching the sides.

 

[WGBH]

I have this, but the shoulders on the creatures here are far too narrow (relative to their height) to fit John's description.


[qimg]http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w310/william_parcher/af75629b.jpg[/qimg]

That is a fair comparison. Perhaps a bit taller and wider in the shoulders. The arm length looks good.

 

[atpeace]

The researcher that contacted me was a Female and she was from Tennessee. So, I would assume her knowledge of North Carolina to be limited. The questions she asked me were very basic. The entire interview did not last more then a half hour. I never spoke to her again after the interview and we did no bonding. I did not share with her anything about my nightmares. We mostly talked about my description of the animal. Also take note that no researchers notes about the interview were ever added to my sighting report as has been done with other reports. What you read on that BFRO report is what I wrote myself.

Thank you for answering. I was just curious about the interview process.
I probably chose the wrong word "bonding". I meant nothing weird, just wondered how you felt about finding someone to talk to about your experience.
ap

 

[kitakaze]

Great Dismal Swamp factoids:

The Great Dismal Swamp is a marshy area on the Coastal Plain of southeastern Virginia and northeastern North Carolina between Norfolk, Virginia, and Elizabeth City, North Carolina in the United States. It is located in parts of southern Chesapeake and Suffolk in Virginia, as well as northern Gates, Pasquotank, and Camden Counties in North Carolina. It is a southern swamp, one of many along the Atlantic Ocean's coast which includes the Everglades and the Big Cypress Swamp in Florida, the Okefenokee Swamp in Georgia, the Congaree Swamp and Four Holes swamps of South Carolina, and some of the Carolina bays in the Carolinas. Along the eastern edge runs the Dismal Swamp Canal, completed in 1805.

Essential to the swamp ecosystem are its water resources, native vegetative communities, and varied wildlife species. The Great Dismal Swamp's ecological significance and its wealth of history and lore make it a unique wilderness. It is one of the last large and wild areas remaining in the Eastern United States.

After centuries of logging and other human activities which were devastating the swamp's ecosystems, the Great Dismal Swamp National Wildlife Refuge was created in 1973 when the Union Camp Corporation of Franklin, Virginia donated 49,100 acres (200 km²) of land; the refuge was officially established through The Dismal Swamp Act of 1974.

The refuge consists of over 111,000 acres (500 km²) of forested wetlands. Lake Drummond, a 3,100 acre (13 km²) natural lake, is located in the heart of the swamp. Outside the boundaries of the National Refuge, the state of North Carolina has preserved and protected additional portions of the swamp, as the Great Dismal Swamp State Natural Area.

Scientists believe the Great Dismal Swamp was created when the Continental shelf made its last big shift. The whole swamp has peat underneath.

The origin of Lake Drummond, one of only two natural lakes in Virginia, is disputed. Scientists believe[citation needed] the lake could have been created by the impact of a meteoroid because it is oval shaped, looking like the impact of a meteoroid. They think it was made by a big meteoroid like the ones that are thought to have made the Carolina Bays. Other people[citation needed] believe it was made by a large underground peat burn about 3,500 to 6,000 years ago. Indian legend talks about "the fire bird" creating Lake Drummond.

There is archaeological evidence which indicates human occupation began nearly 13,000 years ago.

While all efforts to drain the swamp ultimately failed, logging of the swamp proved to be a successful commercial activity. Regular logging operations continued as late as 1976. Many areas have been burned by periodic wildfires. The Great Dismal Swamp has been drastically altered by humanity over the past two centuries. Agricultural, commercial, and residential development destroyed much of the swamp, so that the remaining portion within and around the refuge represents less than half of the original size.

Before the refuge was established, over 140 miles (230 km) of roads were constructed to provide access to the timber. These roads severely disrupted the swamp's natural hydrology, as the ditches which were dug to provide soil for the road beds drained water from the swamp. The roads also blocked the flow of water across the swamp's surface, flooding some areas of the swamp with stagnant water. The logging operations removed natural stands of bald cypress and Atlantic white cypress that were replaced by other forest types, particularly red maple. A drier swamp and the suppression of wildfires, which once cleared the land for seed germination, created ecological conditions that were less favorable to the survival of cypress stands. As a result, plant and animal variety decreased.

In the late 1990s, Prince Corporation heir Erik Prince spent part of his inherited wealth to purchase about 6,000 acres (24 km2) of the GDS to create a "state-of-the-art private training ground for shooters and security operators".[2] His private military contracting company—Blackwater Worldwide—is named for the peat-colored water of the swamp. Also nearby are SEAL and Delta Force bases and the Blackwater facilities are rented out to various government agencies for SWAT team training.

The Great Dismal Swamp National Wildlife Refuge is located not only between two states, but also between two eco-regions, allowing for a wide range of plant and animal species. Baldcypress, tupelo, maple, Atlantic white cypress, and pine are the predominant tree species found on the refuge and support the wildlife within. Many mammal species, including black bear, bobcat, otter, and weasel, along with over 70 species of reptiles and amphibians call the swamp home. More than 200 bird species can be seen at the swamp throughout the year, while 96 of those are known to nest on the refuge.

Lake Drummond is the middle of activity in the swamp today with many fishermen, sightseers, and boaters. Camping is not allowed on the refuge but is allowed on the Lake Drummond Reservation (Corps of Engineers' site) which is located at the Feeder Ditch spillway. Access to this site is by boat only.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Dismal_Swamp

Images:

http://k43.pbase.com/g6/94/339594/2/84401122.LQSJZ3oY.jpg

http://www.dcr.virginia.gov/natural_heritage/images/PIIIc_photo_500.JPG

http://www.geocities.com/great_dismal_swamp/Boardwalk10.JPG

http://www.chesapeakehomesguide.com/img/old-stone-house.jpg

http://photomural.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/swamp.jpg

http://www.virginia.org/uploaded_images/15029.jpg

"Creepy" episode featuring ghosts of Great Dismal Swamp (starts 4:10)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vCF389CTOU

 

[William Parcher]

This is for the 66% ratio. I scaled this guy for height. Look how much bigger his shoulders need to be to fit the box.