So Silverstein "pulled" his buildings so he could go broke rebuilding them?
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So you have no record of Silverstein making a phone call?
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as per my end of the agreement, it has been 2 days. I have not recieved any pm's from ultima nor has he posted anything to prove his argument that a 40 story building had been "pulled" while on fire.
I'm disheartened, i'm disappointed, I really hoped he would come through with this. Roger, do you at least have an explanation?
I'm disheartened, i'm disappointed, I really hoped he would come through with this. Roger, do you at least have an explanation?
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You claim the building was pulled. Show us your evidence of this. Show us evidence of a 40+ story burning building being pulled prior to 9/11.
Is Silverstein guilty unless proven innocent? Is that how it works?
[OT: yay! this is my last can't-post-links message!]
So, did the firemen demolish building 7? Because Silverstein said "THEY made that decision to pull", you surely remember.
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no you cant establish that
you're saying 2-3 hours
i have testimony from the transcripts that says 5-6 hours
Nigro only states when they set up the collapse zone
in other words you have no real evidence
Nigro said he didn't call
you're ASSuming he did
you have no evidence other than speculation
that's not gonna hold up when you present this to the proper authorities
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You're making the mistake of applying real-world logic to a delusion-driven fantasy world. When you send pretend FOIAs to pretend entities, it doesn't really matter if they are the government or not.
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The phone call is of little importance. It can't help establish a timeline because we don't know when it was made. It doesn't provide motive because, according to Ultima1, the fire department decided to "implode" the building and therefore Silverstein's thoughts on it were irrelevant.
The other thing that logic dictates is that if the building were brought down(by the FDNY or whoever) for reasons of safety, then there would be no coverup as this action would have been justified. If that were indeed the case, the collapse would NOT have been subject to an rigorous investigation; no mysteries, no NIST reports. Therefore, the argument that the FDNY had the building pulled for safety reasons is beyond moronic. And there's that whole thing about demoing a burning building...and how it's never happened before. Or how fire departments don't demolish buildings...
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... and how long it takes to set up... and how different this sounds:
http://www.controlled-demolition.com/images/client/jlhudson.mpg
compared to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A
(aah, at last I can post links... btw, thanks AJM8125 for posting the video earlier)
http://www.controlled-demolition.com/images/client/jlhudson.mpg
compared to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A
(aah, at last I can post links... btw, thanks AJM8125 for posting the video earlier)
How does continuing to make a fool of yourself help you sell your falsehoods? Nigro claims he did NOT speak with Silverstein. We don't know who, if anybody, did. WE DO NOT KNOW WHEN NIGRO ISSUED HIS EVACUATION ORDER OR HOW LONG IT TOOK FOR EVERYONE TO LEAVE THE BUILDING. WE DO NOT KNOW WHEN, OR IF, SOMEONE CALLED SILVERSTEIN. Why do you persist? You have been exposed. You DO NOT know what you claim to know.
Yes, we're sure that people at the NSA "laugh" at sane people who expose terrorist-loving frauds. Heaven help us all.
No one knows if firefighters were still in the building at the time of the call because no one, to date, has provided a time for the call--assuming there was one.
Pay attention. It has been observed that it is impossible to figure out on the internet whether a poster is dishonest, stupid, crazy, or some combination of the three.
Let's examine closely what you just wrote:
You pretend that fire chiefs have stated that men were out of the building before the call to Silverstein was made. NONE OF YOUR "SOURCES" SUPPORT YOUR FALSE CLAIM. IF NOBODY KNOWS WHO CALLED SILVERSTEIN, OR WHEN SUCH A CALL MIGHT HAVE BEEN MADE, HOW COULD ANYBODY POSSIBLY KNOW IF THE MEN WERE OUT OF THE BUILDING???
There's that problem with logic again.
The same, endlessly-repeated conceptual error: IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO "PULL" A 47-STORY BUILDING. You persist in peddling the debunked falsehood that "pulling" refers to the use of explosives. IT DOES NOT!
We DO NOT know when the evacuation order was issued or when the last man left the collapse zone.
Are you tired of hearing this yet?
Listen closely again: We DON'T KNOW if anyone called Silverstein. We have only Silverstein's word for it.
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Not to worry, FineWine.
Ultima1 cant even show that a 40+ story building has ever been pulled before. So why would they even make that statement?
According to Roger, a building has never collapsed from fire, so these fire chiefs decide instead to try something that has never been done before, and keep it secret?
Ultima1 cant even show that a 40+ story building has ever been pulled before. So why would they even make that statement?
According to Roger, a building has never collapsed from fire, so these fire chiefs decide instead to try something that has never been done before, and keep it secret?