So Silverstein "pulled" his buildings so he could go broke rebuilding them?

so unless you can produce evidence that a burning 40+ story building has been pulled before, we all know you have no evidence to back your ridiculous claim.

Fire chiefs everywhere are laughing at that theory/
 
ULTIMA1 said:
It can also be used to mean other ways to bring down a buidling. So either send FOIA to a demo company and prove me wrong or STFU.
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FOIA to a demo company?

Yeah, you work for the government. Sure.:spjimlad::spjimlad::spjimlad:

ETA: Sorry, folks. I was reading this thread and I stopped to take a call and sort of lost track where I was. DTugg addressed this exactly as I did.

(But it's worthy of a bump. So....)

Bump for Ultima1.....
Please explain how one files a FOIA against a commercial entity just to get them to answer a question they've already answered. Do you think a FOIA petition is like a subpoena? That they'll now be forced to answer in accordance with your delusional findings?
 
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Foolmewunz said:
FOIA to a demo company?

Bump for Ultima1.....
Please explain how one files a FOIA against a commercial entity just to get them to answer a question they've already answered. ?
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Well send them an e-mail asking what a FOIA request would.

Are you really that immature?

I mean i have sent e-mails to companies that were at ground zero.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Well send them an e-mail asking what a FOIA request would.

Are you really that immature?

I mean i have sent e-mails to companies that were at ground zero.
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You may have sent emails, but you haven't sent an FOIA to a non-government entity, have you?

You know the point we were making. You use terms that you think are impressive. "Send 'em an FOIA." Bosh and Nonsense! No one who works for the government or who has any experience in filing for hitherto protected information under FOIA would make such a dumb statement, Ultima1.

And like several others, I'm defining "immature" (gawd, that ploy gets tiresome, especially from someone so infantile) as someone who lies about what they're going to do, knowing that they have no intention of doing it, and then makes up dog-ate-my-homework conditions after the fact so as to justify not doing what they committed to doing in the first place.

Where are those proofs you were so busy digging up more than two days ago and committed to posting "in two days"?

And while we're at it.... I've been watching you talk about the declassification of sooper sekret dokuments for quite a while, now. When are you going to come through with that momentous internal NSA communique? How far along is that request? Would you like to commit now to not posting that, also? How about,.... "Well, I was going to post it, but since you guys are so mean and since Gravy won't come out of retirement and wear a tutu and a red rubber clown nose, I'm not going to post them and you'll just have to believe me because I'm really really a secret agent, I swear I am."

Thus far, you've promised much, but only delivered on cherry-picked quotes.
 
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Foolmewunz said:
You may have sent emails, but you haven't sent an FOIA to a non-government entity, have you?
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At least i send e-mails and FOIAs to find the truth.

You do nothing becasue you are afraid of the truth, becasue you disrepect the people that died that day and thier families.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
At least i send e-mails and FOIAs to find the truth.

You do nothing becasue you are afraid of the truth, becasue you disrepect the people that died that day and thier families.
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How dare you, you sanctimonious ******** ******** ?

Firstly, you don't know what I do or don't do and who I write to or write about. So unless you're under my desk and in my correspondence, please retract the first statement or be seen for the dishonest person you are.

And as to the second... I will happily call you out. I'm fairly close to being a pacifist, so that's not a physical threat, but an intellectual/emotional one.

Why? Simple..... How many friends or acquaintances did you lose that day, Ultima? I lost several. I spent ten years working in #1 and much of my industry is centered in the area. A number of shipping companies (one of which I had worked in) were still in the WTC that day, as were a couple of insurance companies I dealt with regularly and a few friends at USC.
So who's disrespecting who, here? Would you care to meet for a coffee with a few of my friends from the area? I'm a little far away, but I'm sure they'd like to discuss this with someone so highly placed in a big time government position.

Further, would you please stop with the personal crowning of the halo. I, like many others here, write to whomever I want to on whatever topic I wish to. I am a voter, even from this distance and I have no hesitation to contact my elected officials. I have, in fact, published a couple of such communications (not on 911 TM topics, as there are so many others who are so much better informed than I am who do sufficient in that area) on these pages a little while back.

I love your version of researching the truth. You send off communications, supposedly, get results, and then.....

and then....?




and then....?


and then.... ?

(no, it's not Along Came Jones)



and then.... ?



YOU KEEP THEM SECRET. ALL TO YOURSELF.

There must be a special irony meter for this sort of hypocrisy. "Oh, I could publish them, but then that would be the end of the world, and besides I won't because you big meanies won't believe me anyway, but I know I've got 'em and you can't have 'em, la la la la!"
 
Foolmewunz said:
Firstly, you don't know what I do or don't do and who I write to or write about. So unless you're under my desk and in my correspondence, please retract the first statement or be seen for the dishonest person you are.
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If you have done any kind of reserch for the truth you would not be going with the official story. Second you would not be debating me.
 
bje said:
What time was the call made? Please give us the source for the time.
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We do not have an exact time, but we know from the fire chiefs the firmen were evacuated early in the day. About 2 -3 hours before the building was brought down.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
At least i send e-mails and FOIAs to find the truth.

You do nothing becasue you are afraid of the truth, becasue you disrepect the people that died that day and thier families.
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How many of these families do you know? Do they know you are speaking for them?
 
ULTIMA1 said:
If you have done any kind of reserch for the truth you would not be going with the official story. Second you would not be debating me.
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Nice cherry-picking. You could get a job in an orchard in Oregon. No comment on the rest of my post?
 
ULTIMA1 said:
We do not have an exact time, but we know from the fire chiefs the firmen were evacuated early in the day. About 2 -3 hours before the building was brought down.
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Why don't you have the record of the exact time of the phone call? When did Silverstein say he discussed "pulling?"
 
bje said:
Why don't you have the record of the exact time of the phone call? When did Silverstein say he discussed "pulling?"
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We do not have the fire commanders log.

Silverstein does not discuss a time.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
We do not have the fire commanders log.

Silverstein does not discuss a time.
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When did the fire commander report his recollections?

When did Silverstein report his recollections?
 
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