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Split Thread AA77 FBI Investigation [split from: AA77 FDR Data, Explained]

Uh....ladies and germs? Does it not seem to anyone else that it seems as if U1 is engaging in this tail-chase to inflate his posting history on JREF and thereby be able to cite himself as one of the pre-eminent JREF 9/11 posters?

Just a thought that might explain this circular wank
 
Show me the source that states WORD FOR WORD that the crime scnee investigation started on Sept 11.



http://www.historycommons.org/contex...a942fbiarrives

"Within five minutes of the Pentagon being hit, the first group from the FBI’s National Capital Response Squad arrives there. Due to this being a terrorist attack, the Pentagon and its grounds are immediately declared a federal crime scene. Under the terms of a 1995 presidential directive, this makes them the exclusive responsibility of the FBI. The FBI immediately begins collecting evidence and is also responsible for recovering bodies."
 
Are these 2 the same? Look Closely at spelling

Collecting evidence

STARTING CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION



When said investigator arrives on a crime scene and begins collecting evidence has he begun his crime scene investigation? Yes Or No?
 
Collecting evidence is not starting a crime scene.

They start a crime scene when they officially state they are starting the crime scene.

Really?these people show you are wrong...............

How To
How to Investigate a Crime Scene
By eHow Careers & Work Editor
Rate: (9 Ratings)

Law enforcement personnel, crime scene technicians and a medical examiner are the first personnel to arrive at a crime scene. While each crime is different, there are some procedures to follow practically the same way, within reason, to help piece together a picture of how the crime was committed and by whom. Read on to learn more.



Difficulty: Challenging
Instructions

Obtain Permission
1.
Step 1

Obtain a warrant. A warrant allows you to enter the crime scene.
2.
Step 2

Arrive early. You will be able to see the crime scene in its original state.
3.
Step 3

Secure the crime scene with evidence tape. Only essential people may enter so that you can conduct your investigation.
Collect Evidence
4.
Step 1

Wear gloves to collect evidence.
5.
Step 2

Package all evidence carefully. Document accordingly.
6.
Step 3

Collect all crucial evidence. Tainted evidence can wreck an otherwise solid case in court. You cannot re-enter the crime scene once you leave it to recollect evidence.
Take Notes and Ask Questions
7.
Step 1

Take detailed notes in chronological order. Write your notes so that you remember them later.
8.
Step 2

Interview people. Ask them questions concerning the crime. You will be able to determine the sequence of events by asking questions appropriately.
9.
Step 3

Take pictures.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2122102_inv...ce=yahoo&utm_medium=ssp&utm_campaign=yssp_art


One of the most important aspects of securing the
crime scene is to preserve the scene with minimal
contamination and disturbance of physical evidence.
The initial response to an incident shall be expeditious
and methodical. Upon arrival, the officer(s) shall assess
the scene and treat the incident as a crime scene.

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/backissu/april2000/twgcsi.pdf


That my challenged friend is the OFFICIAL book how to do a scene and I would like you to show me where it says it is not a scene until it is officially declared!
 
When said investigator arrives on a crime scene and begins collecting evidence has he begun his crime scene investigation? Yes Or No?

I always thought that a crime scene started when a criminal committed a crime and investigation began when the first law enforcement officers arrived at the scene of the crime. Investigation covers all aspects, picking up and cataloging physical evidence, photos, lab work ect.

Question for Ultima1:

If no crime scene is "declared" did the crime happen?
 
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A new record?

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The sheer number of posts yesterday
Really proves that he
Only wants to boots his post count.
Lets see if he does the same today...and maybe at
Least post something new...
 
ULTIMA1 sure does post a lot for someone who works 16 hours a day (including travel time from Pennsylvania to D.C.).

Thanks for showing how immature and unintelligent you are that you can even figure out when i work..
 
Really?these people show you are wrong...............

SO fun and easy to prove you wrong.



Obtain Permission
1.
Step 1

Obtain a warrant. A warrant allows you to enter the crime scene.

They did not need a warrent to enter the crime scenes on 9/11.

2.
Step 2

Arrive early. You will be able to see the crime scene in its original state.

As shown most of the important investigators and equipment were late getting on the scene.

6.
Step 3

Collect all crucial evidence. Tainted evidence can wreck an otherwise solid case in court. You cannot re-enter the crime scene once you leave it to recollect evidence.
Take Notes and Ask Questions

As shown the FBI agents did taint the evidence when they took material from the scene.

Take pictures.

The FBI took and confiscated a lots of pictures but we have not seen the majotiy of them
 
perhaps their photos are part of their official report, which has not been released?

rocket science....
 

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