Why a one-way Crush down is not possible

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six7s said:
Honour?

Is that German for 'the impotent, psychotic, delusional vomit-spouting paranoia of a domineering, cowardly megalomaniac with the exceedingly poor judgment typical of one unable to notice contradictions in their own thinking, prone to disposing of obvious objections in an irrational fashion whilst in a sort of dream world in which their own contemptuous ideas, desires and fears are mixed up with no distinction between fact and fancy'?

Or is it 'the hallmark of a half-educated, self-deluding fool with a preference for pseudo-science and a penchant for spinning out theories based on a small, usually very questionable factual foundation, who believes that 'we must distrust the intelligence and the conscience and must place our trust in our bad tempered, weak, scared, aggressive, instincts' who, instead of adjusting his assumptions to reality, tries in vain to adjust reality to his perception of a fantasy world whilst flying into an indignant, uncontrollable rage'?

Ich bin ein bin liner :)
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Honour is Ehre in German. Has nothing to do with - 'the impotent, psychotic, delusional vomit-spouting paranoia of a domineering, cowardly megalomaniac with the exceedingly poor judgment typical of one unable to notice contradictions in their own thinking, prone to disposing of obvious objections in an irrational fashion whilst in a sort of dream world in which their own contemptuous ideas, desires and fears are mixed up with no distinction between fact and fancy' which seems to be relevant to Condo Rice and GWB.

But maybe NIST, Kaiser, Sunder, Gross & Co (Bazant, Seffen, Benson, Greening, etc) are 'the hallmark of a half-educated, self-deluding fool with a preference for pseudo-science and a penchant for spinning out theories based on a small, usually very questionable factual foundation, who believes that 'we must distrust the intelligence and the conscience and must place our trust in our bad tempered, weak, scared, aggressive, instincts' who, instead of adjusting his assumptions to reality, tries in vain to adjust reality to his perception of a fantasy world whilst flying into an indignant, uncontrollable rage'?

You tell me! Thanks for your post! Off Topic of course but why not.
 
Amazing to live in a world where the real scientists and engineers are the dupes, and the nutjobs are the geniuses.

Good luck with that...wait, are those helicopters I hear...

TAM;)
 
six7s said:
You're funny!

Alas, not in a humourous way

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When are you going to respond to my exceedingly simple challenge?
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He will respond to your challenge when Jones and his accomplices submit their rubbish to an independent lab. In other words, NEVER.

He's done, cooked, exposed.
 
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T.A.M. said:
Amazing to live in a world where the real scientists and engineers are the dupes, and the nutjobs are the geniuses.
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Yes. I often wonder why it is that the nutjobs, who clearly think they're among a tiny handful of people who "get it", are wholly incapable of communicating effectively enough so that other people can understand them and "get it", too.

Heiwa, if what you're saying has any merit, and since you've convinced virtually nobody that your crackpot notions are correct, you've obviously done a crappy job of getting other people to understand you. Why don't you take a couple of language courses at the local college. Learn how to express your thoughts. Then come back in a few months and try this all again.
 
GeeMack said:
Yes. I often wonder why it is that the nutjobs, who clearly think they're among a tiny handful of people who "get it", are wholly incapable of communicating effectively enough so that other people can understand them and "get it", too.
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That's going in my sig! Cool?
 
T.A.M. said:
have you been drinking? Not only does the above make no sense, but I do not even speak German.

TAM:rolleyes:
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He was clumsily attempting to quote from German literature, which he characteristically mistranslated. A better translation would have been, "Tell me, what are your thoughts on religion?"

It's a line of dialogue from Goethe's Faust, the so-called "Gretchen question", which has come to be used to suggest that another person's religious, philosophical, or political convictions are the reason for a conversational impasse. It's a pretty ironic thing to say to somebody who has just compared your ideas to religion. Perhaps not so unfitting, though, since Trutherism is based primarily on political ideology, setting it at odds with the scientific method.
 
Slayhamlet said:
He was clumsily attempting to quote from German literature, which he characteristically mistranslated. A better translation would have been, "Tell me, what are your thoughts on religion?"

It's a line of dialogue from Goethe's Faust, the so-called "Gretchen question", which has come to be used to suggest that another person's religious, philosophical, or political convictions are the reason for a conversational impasse. It's a pretty ironic thing to say to somebody who has just compared your ideas to religion. Perhaps not so unfitting, though, since Trutherism is based primarily on political ideology, setting it at odds with the scientific method.
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Just thoughts on religion? In general? Or the religion? Anyway, what are your thoughts of the one-way crush down of a composite structure we discuss here using the scientific method? Possible or not possible?
And if it is possible in theory, why is it so difficult to provide a real structure that one-way crushes down?
 
Heiwa said:
Just thoughts on religion? In general? Or the religion? Anyway, what are your thoughts of the one-way crush down of a composite structure we discuss here using the scientific method? Possible or not possible?
And if it is possible in theory, why is it so difficult to provide a real structure that one-way crushes down?
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No, it's religion in general. For all practical purposes there was only one religion in Faust's society. Margaret means to ask him whether he believes in God at all.

As for your other question, I don't know what you mean to suggest by asking me whether a "one way crush down" is possible. Is such an assumption necessary to explain the collapses? I hardly think so.

Here's a card tower that collapses in a superficially similar manner to the twin towers:
At 6:24 the top 12 storeys crush the 23 below them.
 
Slayhamlet said:
He was clumsily attempting to quote from German literature, which he characteristically mistranslated. A better translation would have been, "Tell me, what are your thoughts on religion?"

It's a line of dialogue from Goethe's Faust, the so-called "Gretchen question", which has come to be used to suggest that another person's religious, philosophical, or political convictions are the reason for a conversational impasse. It's a pretty ironic thing to say to somebody who has just compared your ideas to religion. Perhaps not so unfitting, though, since Trutherism is based primarily on political ideology, setting it at odds with the scientific method.
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Well if that is the case, my only religion is that of science, and in that religion, the Holy Trinity is "evidence" "facts" and "truth".

TAM:)
 
Slayhamlet said:
No, it's religion in general. For all practical purposes there was only one religion in Faust's society. Margaret means to ask him whether he believes in God at all.

As for your other question, I don't know what you mean to suggest by asking me whether a "one way crush down" is possible. Is such an assumption necessary to explain the collapses? I hardly think so.
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And plenty of angels/spin doctors/devils, etc!

Re question ... it is the topic. A lot of things can collapse but one-way crush down? Not possible.
 
Heiwa said:
Re question ... it is the topic. A lot of things can collapse but one-way crush down? Not possible.
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And how would you explain your utter lack of ability to get anyone else to understand? Your communication skills are seriously sub-par? You don't know what you're talking about? You're just plain wrong? How is it that the vast majority of all humanity find your position completely ludicrous?
 
Heiwa said:
You sure? Pls, provide evidence that a structural one-way Crush down is possible!
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Any structure with sufficient loss of integrity can and will collapse. Considering the content you post, and your gross lack of articulation to a post which clearly demonstrates competence in the field, why should anyone on this forum be bothered to cater to assumptions which you make that are flawed at the most basic concepts?
 
Heiwa said:
You sure? Pls, provide evidence that a structural one-way Crush down is possible!
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I'm sure of this. You haven't been able to convince anyone here, anyone who has knowledge in the field of structural engineering anyway, that you're correct in your assessment of the collapse of the WTC towers. Either there's a serious error in your position, or you're wholly incapable of communicating your position in a way that others might understand it. To put it simply, either you're a crappy communicator, or you're just plain wrong.

So if you believe you're correct, and it appears you do believe that, you should go take some language skills courses and learn how to communicate your ideas in a way that is understandable to other people. If that's not the case, and if you're just plain wrong, the likely scenario given the direction of the discussion and the evidence you've provided (or not), you should just STFU.

Either way, continuing to babble what seems to be an ongoing stream of nonsense clearly isn't helping to win you any converts. Nor is it providing any advantage to you or to the two or three obviously ignorant Truthers who seem willing to rally behind you on this issue. Frankly it makes you all look like idiots.
 
Heiwa said:
Just thoughts on religion? In general? Or the religion?
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Don't be fooled by the presence of the definite article in the German. It doesn't necessarily translate directly one-to-one into English. When I introduce my wife to a Greek I say (translating to Greek) "This is my wife, the Anne". That's just how the language works. Perhaps your German is not quite as good as you think?
 
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Heiwa said:
You sure? Pls, provide evidence that a structural one-way Crush down is possible!
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Try answering a simple question. Twenty floors fall on ONE floor, crush it, and head toward the next floor. What stops them?

Please explain if the falling mass is greater after the original collapsing floors add the next one in line or if the total mass has magically decreased.
 
FineWine said:
Try answering a simple question. Twenty floors fall on ONE floor, crush it, and head toward the next floor. What stops them?

Please explain if the falling mass is greater after the original collapsing floors add the next one in line or if the total mass has magically decreased.
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Thanks for asking! Imagine that twenty pizza boxes fall on ONE pizza box and head for the next pizza box below (and 90 others). What stops them? Well, it seems the ONE pizza box is up to the job! No crush! And twenty pizza boxes just bounce.

Thus, the falling mass of 20 pizza boxes remains constant.

Please explain how ONE pizza box can stop 20 similar boxes. It is a simple question and the answer will make you understand Why a one-way Crush down is not possible!

PS - check what force the ONE pizza box applies on the 20 boxes falling down.
 
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