no serial numbers were identified from flight 77

[JoeyDonuts]

You mean like you and everybody else are doing on here?

My goodness. Are we honestly resorting to the "I know you are but what am I" tactic?

Sure sign that someone's been cornered and all out of arguments with any merit whatsoever.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Because the DNA strands tested at Pentagon and Somerset county did not present the same challenge as the ones at WTC.

I did not think they found any bodies at flight 93's site?

 

[BigAl]

So how did they do a good ID without the new DNA testing?

If "they" is the Pentagon and Shanksville, it is becuse it was a much simpler problem compared to WTC. For one thing, the body parts were collected in days where at WTC, much of the bodies cooked at elevated temps for weeks. We still find bones around Ground Zero.

So 50 lab technicians are all part of a criminal enterprise? That is the natural conclusion of your line of fantasy.

You appear to have no actual expertise in anything relevant to 9/11.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

I did not think they found any bodies at flight 93's site?

Not intact. The ME's had the horrible task of performing identification off of fragmented tissue, a task that was carried out by the AFIP.

 

[ULTIMA1]

So all the passengers were found in the rubble, isn't it safe to assume the hijackers too?

Why assume when we should have evidence?

 

[ULTIMA1]

Not intact. The ME's had the horrible task of performing identification off of fragmented tissue, a task that was carried out by the AFIP.

Now i though you just stated that that site was not as much of a challenge as the WTC?

 

[ULTIMA1]

You appear to have no actual expertise in anything relevant to 9/11.

A lot more then you as proven by my documents posted.

 

[Pardalis]

Why assume when we should have evidence?

Yes we do have the evidence, the DNA fragment were all found in the Pentagon (and a some outside the exit wound. Nothing suggests they were found elsewhere.

All the fragments were found jumbled together, there is no reason to think the hijackers' body parts found themselves magically apart from everyone else.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Now i though you just stated that that site was not as hard as the WTC?

In the case of the WTC, the tissue samples were subject to forces that the Pentagon and Somerset County scenes were not. Namely, intense pressure from the millions of tons of rubble and residual heat from the fire.

It doesn't take a biologist to see why that would cause a change (read: DAMAGE) at the sub-cellular level in tissue - whereas body fragments that have only been blown apart are largely still intact at that stage.

ETA: The DC Military article points out that Pentagon DNA identification was done by Nov. 16th. This is true. UA93 wasn't finished until a few months afterward, because the search effort to round up the fragmented pieces of the victims took longer. This is because the remains were scattered over a much wider area. In the case of AA77, the remains were largely localized to the impact site.

 

[BigAl]

I did not think they found any bodies at flight 93's site?

You've been lied to and you believed it.

Investigators segregated remains which yielded DNA samples that did not match DNA profiles of the 40 passengers and crew. Those, by process of elimination, are the hijackers, and their remains are being grouped by common DNA.

http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20011220shanksville1220p2.asp

Links to forensics and hijacker identification
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/linksto911forensicsaqndvictimidentificat

The hijacker's license
http://bp0.blogger.com/_rLV-ZuNPwJ4/RzjIqhqANiI/AAAAAAAAAuw/8Ve-LbpabIs/s1600-h/PA00101A.jpg

 

[Alt+F4]

But it does prove ID.

Yes. I believe there were 58 persons on AA77. 52 were positively identified through DNA provided by family members. There was one passenger, a young child, that was never identified. Five passengers remained unidentified through DNA, these are assumed to be the hijackers.

 

[lapman]

You mean like i am still waiting for someone to deabte my sources.

Already been done quite extensively. Just be cause you refuse to acknowledge it doesn't mean that it hasn't happened.

You mean like you and everybody else are doing on here?

Everybody meaning you and and the other twoofers.

 

[ULTIMA1]

You've been lied to and you believed it.

You are the liar, even your own sites states remains only NOT BODIES.

PLEASE STOP THE LIES.

 

[Pardalis]

PLEASE STOP THE LIES.

YOU lied when you claimed the new DNA tests for WTC were used for the Pentagon as well.

But the same test also were used for the Pentagon.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Yes. I believe there were 58 persons on AA77. 52 were positively identified through DNA provided by family members. There was one passenger, a young child, that was never identified. Five passengers remained unidentified through DNA, these are assumed to be the hijackers.

But no report that they were all in the building as i have been stating.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Already been done quite extensively. Just be cause you refuse to acknowledge it doesn't mean that it hasn't happened.

No you have not debated the facts of my sources. Only thinking you have does not mean you have.

 

[lapman]

A lot more then you as proven by my documents posted.

You haven't posted any documents. Just the portions of news articles that you can twist into your fantasy. Where's your proof that the crime investigation starts when they take jurisdiction? Where's your proof that gathering evidence is not part of a crime scene investigation?

 

[JoeyDonuts]

You are the liar, even your own sites states remains only NOT BODIES.

PLEASE STOP THE LIES.

Bodies tend to not stay in one piece when subjected to the forces of an airliner crashing full-throttle into a stationary object.

 

[ULTIMA1]

YOU lied when you claimed the new DNA tests for WTC were used for the Pentagon as well.

I will have to see if i can find the report where they did go back and use the new testing.

 

[nicepants]

Do you have the serial numbers matched to the plane?

What difference does the serial number of the FDR or CVR make when they contain the flight data and audio for flight 77 and prior flights made by that aircraft?

#3 - Is there a coroner's report stating that the bodies were found elsewhere?

There is no coroner report that they were in the building, so your guess is as good as mine.

If the coroner's report doesn't state that they were found elsewhere, why does this matter?