no serial numbers were identified from flight 77

[Pardalis]

But the same test also were used for the Pentagon.

That's a claim.

Prove it.

 

[Alt+F4]

...and you do know that there is no DNA evidence that all the hijackers are dead?

DNA can prove that someone is dead?! Who'd thunk it!

 

[ULTIMA1]

Well, Ultima1, Since you seem to think that the aircraft in question did not crash into the pentagon, and that no passenger remains were found at the pentagon, I ask you to provide your evidence to the contrary that fits with an alternate hypothesis than that which was witnessed on that fateful day.

Show me where i stated the plane did not crash into the Pentagon or STFU.

 

[ULTIMA1]

DNA can prove that someone is dead?! Who'd thunk it!

Can you show me the DNA reports that show all the hijackers are dead?

 

[BigAl]

You failed again. Show me where it states all bodies were found INSIDE the Pentagon.

So, Mr. Litteral, you accuse 50 medical technicians who's names can be easily be discovered of being part of a criminal cover up that requires that thousands of people keep quiet forever and shows no sign of breaking open so far.

 

[Pardalis]

Show me where i stated the plane did not crash into the Pentagon or STFU.

So what's all this about?

The plane crashed with no passengers inside?

 

[JoeyDonuts]

In early April 2002, the information and assay design from our miniSTR tests was provided to Dr. Jim Schumm at the Bode Technology Group (BTG) so that their group could scale up our initial work. BTG had contracted with OCME to analyze the remains recovered from WTC victims and was therefore well positioned to run miniSTR assays; Dr. Schumm worked with our data as a framework and building on our foundation constructed two “BodePlexes”. These miniSTR assays incorporate the strategy and many of the same components as we initially developed with our miniplexes at NIST and Ohio University.

According to the NIST article, this DNA sequencing model was first applied to WTC samples in April 2002.

What some experts have called "the most comprehensive forensic investigation in U.S. history" ended Nov. 16 with the identification of 184 of the 189 who died in the terrorist attack on the Pentagon.

This excerpt from the DCmilitary article was dated Nov. 29, 2001 and clearly states that the identification at the Pentagon was complete on Nov. 16, 2001.

Dr. John Butler's DNA sequencing was not applied to the Pentagon because it had not been completed yet.

Can you show me the DNA reports that show all the hijackers are dead?

Nope. Process of elimination was used. I'm sure COL Aku-Bakr Marzouk, USAF could tell you why. You should give him a call.

 

[ULTIMA1]

So what's all this about?

The plane crashed with no passengers inside?

Show me where i stated that.

 

[Alt+F4]

Can you show me the DNA reports that show all the hijackers are dead?

DNA can't prove that someone is dead.

 

[nicepants]

First i am not looking for or care about an alternate hypothesis. I care about the facts and the truth.

Lets look at some facts.

1. No photos or videos of the plane hitting the Pentagon.

2. No reports of parts found matching the plane.

3. No coroner reports stating all the bodies were in the building.

#2 - The FDR and CVR matched the plane.

#3 - Is there a coroner's report stating that the bodies were found elsewhere?

 

[ULTIMA1]

So, Mr. Litteral, you accuse 50 medical technicians who's names can be easily be discovered of being part of a criminal cover up that requires that thousands of people keep quiet forever and shows no sign of breaking open so far.

So you cannot show me where your source states that all the bodies were in the Pentagon,, i did not think so.

 

[BigAl]

According to the NIST article, this DNA sequencing model was first applied to WTC samples in April 2002.



This excerpt from the DCmilitary article was dated Nov. 29, 2001 and clearly states that the identification at the Pentagon was complete on Nov. 16, 2001.

Dr. John Butler's DNA sequencing was not applied to the Pentagon because it had not been completed yet.

DNA analysis for WTC was a much harder problem that was the work at the Pentagon and Shanksville, not that U1 and his ilk give a crap.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Dr. John Butler's DNA sequencing was not applied to the Pentagon because it had not been completed yet.

So how did they do a good ID without the new DNA testing?

 

[lapman]

I'm still waiting for proof that the 5 days was not long enough. Instead, he just runs away and tries to distract from it. He then shows true hypocrisy by requiring us to provide something that states, "the crime scene investigation started on this exact date," yet uses some source that does not state this exact phrase as "proof." U1, when are you going to follow the same standard that you require of us? Show us an actual report, not news article, that states when the start and stop date of the crime scene investigation. Prove that the crime scene investigation does not start when the agents start looking for and gathering evidence.

 

[ULTIMA1]

DNA can't prove that someone is dead.

But it does prove ID.

 

[Pardalis]

So how did they do a good ID without the new DNA testing?

So you are admitting that you lied when you said:

But the same test also were used for the Pentagon.

 

[ULTIMA1]

#2 - The FDR and CVR matched the plane.

Do you have the serial numbers matched to the plane?

#3 - Is there a coroner's report stating that the bodies were found elsewhere?

There is no coroner report that they were in the building, so your guess is as good as mine.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

So how did they do a good ID without the new DNA testing?

Because the DNA strands tested at Pentagon and Somerset county did not present the same challenge as the ones at WTC. They were exposed to a much greater destructive force. The DNA strands recovered from tissue samples at the Pentagon were viable for existing testing methods.

DNA testing had been going on prior to Dr. John Butler's enhanced methods, and with great accuracy.

 

[Pardalis]

There is no coroner report that they were in the building, so your guess is as good as mine.

So all the passengers were found in the rubble, isn't it safe to assume the hijackers too?

What would be a good rational and logical reason to think the hijackers were found elsewhere?

 

[ULTIMA1]

I'm still waiting for proof that the 5 days was not long enough.

You mean like i am still waiting for someone to deabte my sources.

Instead, he just runs away and tries to distract from it.

You mean like you and everybody else are doing on here?