no serial numbers were identified from flight 77

[Gavron]

...and we have provided that information here. However, you are to closed minded to accept that evidence, because it goes against your conspiracy theory belief.

When the FBI releases their final reports, perhaps it will have all the precious information you are crying about. Until then, you will have to patiently wait. No FOIA will give you that information, no matter how much you whine.

 

[ULTIMA1]

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You do know how DNA evidence works, correct? A sample from the body must be compared against something else.

You do know that becasue of what happened on 9/11 they had to come up with new DNA testing?

These new test were not ready untill the beginning of 2002, AFTER most of DNA reports.

 

[BigAl]

I thought all the bodies from the plane was supposed to have been found inside the building?
So where is the coroner reports that state this, and you do know that there is no DNA evidence that all the hijackers are dead?

Any loon can ask a question so precisely crafted as to make it impossible to answer to his strict standard of literal compliance.

For his own claims and denials , anything goes.

Bodies for everyone that boarded Flt77 was found in the Pentagon. DNA comparisons have tied to bodies to names for all but the 5 people that were the hijackers. Deal with it.

 

[tsig]

Well i try to verify the information instead of being like beleivers that just go along with what they are told.

How are you going to do this verification? Do you already have something to measure it against? In the end aren't you still going to be relying on the reports of others and not first hand knowledge?

 

[ULTIMA1]

...and we have provided that information here. However, you are to closed minded to accept that evidence, because it goes against your conspiracy theory belief.

Becasue most of the evidence was no good and sites posted were not reliable sites.

 

[BigAl]

Becasue most of the evidence was no good and sites posted were not reliable sites.

Can you be any less specific?

 

[ULTIMA1]

How are you going to do this verification? Do you already have something to measure it against?

I try to use as many government and professional research sites as i can to verify information.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Bodies for everyone that boarded Flt77 was found in the Pentagon. DNA comparisons have tied to bodies to names for all but the 5 people that were the hijackers. Deal with it.

Actually, this is incorrect.

5 bodies that were NOT the hijackers could not be positively identified by the remains. I'm certain the authorites know WHO those 5 people are, but they can't conclusively tie the remains together. It happens in situations like this.

So essentially, you had ten bodies total that were not identified through DNA. Five were passengers, and five were the hijackers.

I try to use as many government and professional research sites as i can to verify information.

And what exactly, would be your professional and government research sites?

 

[Pardalis]

I try to use as many government and professional research sites as i can to verify information.

The graphic JoeyDonuts linked to of the passengers and crew's body parts was part of the Moussaoui trial, you know, the Supreme Court trial?

Why don't you trust its legitimacy?

 

[BigAl]

Actually, this is incorrect.

5 bodies that were NOT the hijackers could not be positively identified by the remains. I'm certain the authorites know WHO those 5 people are, but they can't conclusively tie the remains together. It happens in situations like this.

So essentially, you had ten bodies total that were not identified through DNA. Five were passengers, and five were the hijackers

Thanks

Got a link I can bookmark?

 

[Shalamar]

I did not say that, do not put words in my mouth. Its a true sign of immaturity.

I asking for the facts, evidence and reports to find the truth.

Well, you are ignoring the evidence, so I will ask again.

Well, Ultima1, Since you seem to think that the aircraft in question did not crash into the pentagon, and that no passenger remains were found at the pentagon, I ask you to provide your evidence to the contrary that fits with an alternate hypothesis than that which was witnessed on that fateful day.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Why don't you trust its legitimacy?

Becasue the trial aslo stated that OBL was behind 9/11. But the FBI and DOJ have stated that they do not have enough evidnece that OBL was behind 9/11 thats why they have not charged him.

 

[Pardalis]

Becasue the trial aslo stated that OBL was behind 9/11.

non sequitur

 

[ULTIMA1]

Well, you are ignoring the evidence, so I will ask again.

What evidence, you have no real evidence?

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Thanks

Got a link I can bookmark?

Whoops. I misunderstood the reference. There was a time factor involved, but eventually every single one was ID'd.

The medical examiner's office was originally able to identify 179 out of 184 and...oh hell, just read the article.

http://www.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary_archives/stories/112901/12279-1.shtml

And with that, I'm done.

ETA: Oh, now we're back on the "OBL not listed for 9/11" tangent? I suggest anyone who doubts its veracity to mosey on over to the Rewards for Justice site, and take a look at what OBL is wanted for. Keep in mind RFJ is set up by the State Department for international tips, which is where any tidbits on OBL's location are going to come from. Not from Joe Schumckatelly from Pocatello.

 

[Shalamar]

What evidence, you have no real evidence?

Well, Ultima1, Since you seem to think that the aircraft in question did not crash into the pentagon, and that no passenger remains were found at the pentagon, I ask you to provide your evidence to the contrary that fits with an alternate hypothesis than that which was witnessed on that fateful day.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Whoops. I misunderstood the reference. There was a time factor involved, but eventually every single one was ID'd.

The medical examiner's office was originally able to identify 179 out of 184 and...oh hell, just read the article.

http://www.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary_archives/stories/112901/12279-1.shtml

And with that, I'm done.

Check this one out.

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/newsfromnist_DNAinterview.htm
Due to the nature of the World Trade Center disaster, it quickly became evident that traditional methods for performing DNA typing were not likely to be fully successful in identifying all of the recovered remains. Traditional DNA ID methods depend on the presence of long, intact segments of DNA in order to accurately type the sample. The DNA in many of the samples recovered in this situation were so fragmented that these standard methods were ineffective.

In early November 2001, Dr. Robert Shaler, the director of the WTC DNA identification effort, contacted me and asked if I would be willing to develop some new DNA tests to help in the identification effort. I agreed to fast track our research efforts over the next several months and produce some test materials for his laboratory to try by January 2002.

 

[Pardalis]

Check this one out.

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/newsfromnist_DNAinterview.htm
Due to the nature of the World Trade Center disaster, it quickly became evident that traditional methods for performing DNA typing were not likely to be fully successful in identifying all of the recovered remains. Traditional DNA ID methods depend on the presence of long, intact segments of DNA in order to accurately type the sample. The DNA in many of the samples recovered in this situation were so fragmented that these standard methods were ineffective.

In early November 2001, Dr. Robert Shaler, the director of the WTC DNA identification effort, contacted me and asked if I would be willing to develop some new DNA tests to help in the identification effort. I agreed to fast track our research efforts over the next several months and produce some test materials for his laboratory to try by January 2002.

Isn't that about the remains in New York?

The thread is about flight 77.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Well, Ultima1, Since you seem to think that the aircraft in question did not crash into the pentagon, and that no passenger remains were found at the pentagon, I ask you to provide your evidence to the contrary that fits with an alternate hypothesis than that which was witnessed on that fateful day.

First i am not looking for or care about an alternate hypothesis. I care about the facts and the truth.

Lets look at some facts.

1. No photos or videos of the plane hitting the Pentagon.

2. No reports of parts found matching the plane.

3. No coroner reports stating all the bodies were in the building.

 

[Gavron]

Becasue most of the evidence was no good and sites posted were not reliable sites.

Some of the evidence was from the exact same sites you use.
So, is the evidence only good if it goes along with your conspiracy theory?