no serial numbers were identified from flight 77

[Alt+F4]

No there is no enormous amount of material that supports identifcation as required in a crime scene investigation.

Please never stop posting, you are funny beyond belief.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Well if they have then they have not released much.

So believers that keep stating they know what heppened that day are being very dishonest.

Sure it has. You know all of what the government's released so far, as much as you've been directed to it in the past.

And your problem is that they haven't released every minute technical detail for YOU to draw your own conclusions from?

Would you even know what to do with a list of serial numbers recovered from the scene if you had it?

 

[ULTIMA1]

Please never stop posting, you are funny beyond belief.

Well i am waiting for someone to shut me up with facts and evidence to debate me but so far that has not happened.

 

[BigAl]

No there is no enormous amount of material that supports identifcation as required in a crime scene investigation.

• All passengers and crew bodies identified by DNA
• DNA of 5 unknown bodies found.
• Tons of parts found consistent with Boeing 757-223, registered N644AA
• Flight recorders recovered with data consistent with the travels of N644AA for the last 24 (?) hours.
• Radar track for Flt93 shows that 757-223, registered N644AA took off at Dulles airport and crashed into the Pentagon.
• Flt93 Plane flight tracked by cell phone and airphone data.
• Many people saw a plane that looked like N644AA hit the Pentagon
• I'm sure there is more

 

[ULTIMA1]

Sure it has. You know all of what the government's released so far, as much as you've been directed to it in the past.

But thats not as near as much information that has not been released.

Would you even know what to do with a list of serial numbers recovered from the scene if you had it?

Yes i would, do you?

 

[TJM]

Well i am waiting for someone to shut me up with facts and evidence to debate me but so far that has not happened.

You've been refuted every time you open your trap. That you're too bleedin obtuse to see that is certainly no fault of ours.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

But thats not as near as much information that has not been released.

And you know this because...?

*crickets*

Yes i would, do you?

Yeah, I have a pretty good idea. But I wouldn't have any business doing it because I don't work for law enforcement, the NTSB, American Airlines, or their parts suppliers. I suppose if I was a journalist I could finagle my way around that but only IF I was convinced the whole idea wasn't a monumental waste of time.

 

[ULTIMA1]

• All passengers and crew bodies identified by DNA

• 
  
  But most IDs made before newer DNA testing from NIST.
  But no cororner reports stating all the bodies were in the building.
  
  

  [*]DNA of 5 unknown bodies found.

  
  Might want to update your research, also no DNA reports that all hijackers are dead.
  
  
  

  [*]Tons of parts found consistent with Boeing 757-223, registered N644AA

  
  Show me the parts and the reports matching them to 757-223 N644A.
  
  

  [*]Flight recorders recovered with data consistent with the travels of N644AA for the last 24 (?) hours.

  
  Show me the FDRs serial number and that it matches.
  
  

  [*]Radar track for Flt93 shows that 757-223, registered N644AA took off at Dulles airport and crashed into the Pentagon.

  
  I thought AA77 was supposed to have crashed into the Pentagon not 93?

 

[BigAl]

Well i am waiting for someone to shut me up with facts and evidence to debate me but so far that has not happened.

Read Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11
and then explain how a couple thousands first responders are wrong.

 

[ULTIMA1]

And you know this because...?

No photos or videos of AA77 hitting the Pentagon.

No reports matching parts found to the planes.

The FBI took and conviscated about 40,000 photos, we have only seen a few.

NO CRIME SCENE REPORTS FROM THE FBI AND NTSB.

Just to name a very few

 

[ULTIMA1]

Read Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11
and then explain how a couple thousands first responders are wrong.

Sorry, but first responders are coming forward and asking for the truth and a new investigation.

 

[BigAl]

But most IDs made before newer DNA testing from NIST.
But no cororner reports stating all the bodies were in the building.

Might want to update your research, also no DNA reports that all hijackers are dead.

Show me the parts and the reports matching them to 757-223 N644A.

Show me the FDRs serial number and that it matches.

I thought AA77 was supposed to have crashed into the Pentagon not 93?

So what?

A couple thousand first responders would be very surprised with your claims.

(Yup, "93" was a typo.)

 

[tsig]

In case you did not know it is a crime scene investigation.




The identity is due to crime scene investigation.



Beacuse i want to find the truth.

And you expect to find it here at JREF?

 

[BigAl]

Sorry, but first responders are coming forward and asking for the truth and a new investigation.

name one.

 

[ULTIMA1]

A couple thousand first responders would be very surprised with your claims.

Sorry, but first responders are coming forward and asking for the truth and a new investigation.

 

[ULTIMA1]

And you expect to find it here at JREF?

No, i am doing research and filing FOIA request to find the truth and then posting on it forums like this one.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

But most IDs made before newer DNA testing from NIST.
But no cororner reports stating all the bodies were in the building.

This is extremely misleading. There were five passenger bodies unaccounted for. Given the kinetics of the crash and subsequent collapse, it's no wonder. Three of the victims of the Alfred P. Murrah Building bomb were never found either. Is that also suspect to you?

Might want to update your research, also no DNA reports that all hijackers are dead.

The hijackers bodies were identified through process of elimination. All of the passengers and Pentagon employees had kin available to compare DNA to. The hijackers did not, therefore their remains HAD to be ID'd using process of elimination.

Show me the parts and the reports matching them to 757-223 N644A.

Why do you assume there's something wrong with them? Is there reason to suspect the agencies are mishandling it?

Show me the FDRs serial number and that it matches.

See above.

I thought AA77 was supposed to have crashed into the Pentagon not 93?

Big Al's talking points need to be updated.

But AA77 did not supposedly crash into the Pentagon.

It did, in fact, perform the deed specified.

 

[lapman]

Why don't you ever show this evidence when asked for evidence to support the official story?

Why do you ignore all the conclusive evidence that has been shown that supports the "official story?"

I have answered this question many times if would read post.

And you've been wrong every time.

The serial numbers are needed to verify the aircraft.

Only rarely. See below.

The FAA is refusing to release the serial numbers to FOIA request.

That information is owned by the FBI.

Here you will find some information
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB165/faa7.pdf
A 12/16/2007 public correspondence e-mail inquiry of the NTSB posed the following question:

"Will the NTSB refer to recovered aircraft component serial number data, to determine the positive ID of an aircraft following a mishap, in the absence of other identifying data?"

The following e-mail response was provided by a Susan Stevenson of the NTSB on 12/26/2007:

"Yes. NTSB investigators rarely encounter a scenario when the identification of an accident aircraft is not apparent. But during those occasions, investigators will record serial numbers of major components, and then contact the manufacturer of those components in an attempt to determine what aircraft the component was installed upon."

Notice the key word?

The above cited method of identification was apparently required to obtain the positive identifications of American Airlines flight 11 and United Airlines flight 175, which crashed into the World Trade Center towers.

By FAA documents identified as "Summary of Air Traffic Hijack Events", pages 4 and 13, it is indicated that American Airlines flight 11 (N334AA) and United Airlines flight 175 (N612UA) were not transmitting proper transponder identification data at the time of their respective destructions and that therefore, proper aircraft identification cannot have been obtained from this absent or erroneous data.

We're talking about AA77, not AA11 and UA175. The NTSB response to your inquiry applies to AA77 since they have the FDR.

Its just too bad you never post any of this so called evidence.

I have CDs full of evidence and information and most of it shows reasonable doubt in the official story but you like other believers will not accept it.

You'll be posing this evidence, when?

 

[Gavron]

We do not know of they found parts with serial numbers or not since that evidence and those reports have not been released.

There are no reports released matching parts found to the planes, as needed in a criminal investigation.

Roger,

You are not making any sense.

Your 1st sentence says the reports havent been released.
Your 2nd sentence says there are no reports at all.

Either there are reports or there arent. Which is it?

 

[ULTIMA1]

name one.

John Feal, founding member of the Feal Good foundation,