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Colbert Study: Conservatives don't know he's joking

Bob Klase said:
That's true. And had rwguinn written "Republican Leadership=Right-Winged Christian=stupid" I probably wouldn't have responded to it.
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When you have to distance yourself from the leadership of the party that much it seems rather forced. I think it is fairly accurate to say that about republicans, but it would be wrong to say conservative instead.
 
Cicero said:
What about the most popular liberal commentators? The fact that they preach to the choir is not exactly a ringing endorsement for the choir's critical thinking.
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Agreed 100%,but you can say the same thing about conservative commantors and their blind followers.
 
dudalb said:
Agreed 100%,but you can say the same thing about conservative commantors and their blind followers.
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As rwguinn has stated, that assessment has been duly noted ad nauseam on JREF. Skeptigirl made the charge that conservatives are confused about differentiating from Cobert's TV character and the off-camera Colbert. O'Reilly has been on Colbert and vice versa. I never saw any confusion on O'Reilly's part about realizing Colbert's schtick. Olbermann and Maddow are caricatures of the left, but because they believe themselves to be bona fide journalists, they are not in on the joke.
 
Just because you don't agree with their opinions doesn't mean they are a joke, Cicero. Your pathetic attempt at wit is making the thread stink.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Just because you don't agree with their opinions doesn't mean they are a joke, Cicero. Your pathetic attempt at wit is making the thread stink.
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Why?
In fact, the entire purpose of this thread was an Ad Hom attack on Republicans, and the old "GW Bush is so stupid..." fertilizer...
Does anyone actually b'leeve that GWB did/does NOT know Colbert is a caraciture of the evil conservative?
 
rwguinn said:
Why?
In fact, the entire purpose of this thread was an Ad Hom attack on Republicans, and the old "GW Bush is so stupid..." fertilizer...
Does anyone actually b'leeve that GWB did/does NOT know Colbert is a caraciture of the evil conservative?
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The purpose of this thread is to discuss the study, not to make an Ad Hom attack on Republicans. It's also very hard to tell if GWBush was in on the joke or not, because of his history of "intelligent" decisions.

Also, the thread is hardly Ad Hom. Do you even know what the term means?
 
Chuckles.

People don't get satire even if it hits them in the face. I thought of Archie Bunker straight away, funny she mentioned him in her report.
 
truethat said:
Chuckles.

People don't get satire even if it hits them in the face. I thought of Archie Bunker straight away, funny she mentioned him in her report.
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And yet Bill Cosby thought Norman Lear's show was not only not funny, but did much more harm than good.
 
Cicero said:
And yet Bill Cosby thought Norman Lear's show was not only not funny, but did much more harm than good.
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I think he's probably right. Bigots aren't very creative. Archie gave them a lot more people to hate on that they probably didn't even know about.
 
thaiboxerken said:
That doesn't even make sense. Is English not your native language?
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Since you consider Olbermann and Maddow to be credible sources of information, no wonder you have difficulty understanding that they are a joke regardless of their opinions.
 
Let's see, we've got Godwin by page 2 and the discussion has moved away from the study to "People different from me are different!"

So, how about those Mets?
 
Cicero said:
Since you consider Olbermann and Maddow to be credible sources of information, no wonder you have difficulty understanding that they are a joke regardless of their opinions.
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Have you evidence that they are not credible? Try not to equate your hatred to a valid opinion. If their opinions coincided with yours, I'm sure you would not consider them "jokes."
 
stilicho said:
It's odd that even though Glenn Beck has told the New York Times that he's a rodeo clown, you'd still take his act seriously. (Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/30/business/media/30beck.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all )

Entertainment works on all sides of the political spectrum. That's the issue here. None of these people we are talking about are actually contributing positively to a mature political debate. They are all rodeo clowns.

My argument is that your thread is titled too narrowly. It ought to read: People Take Televised Opinion-Makers Seriously. Or something similar to that. Any study focusing just on Colbert and "conservative" reaction to him has built in a bias that has no place in academia.
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Okay, perhaps Glenn Beck doesn't take himself quite as seriously as his fans, but he is nevertheless still expressing his own opinions, albeit with deliberate hyperbole and showmanship. This is not the same as what Colbert does. There is no possible way you can contort his television persona in such a way as to seriously claim he is a satirist. He is not doing satire. Colbert is. Yes, they're both showmen playing to a particular political viewpoint, but beyond that there's very little semblance between the two.
 
GreNME said:
That why I'm scratching my head at the claims like "Conservatives don't know he's joking." The actual study shows that they do know he's joking, and much like the liberal or the independent participants felt that his jokes affirmed their own political ideas, conservatives felt that his jokes affirmed their own political ideas. Not really all that amazingly ground-breaking, if you ask me.
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It would appear that some liberal types have meanwhile practised their own confirmation bias by interpreting the study as evidence that conservative types are stupid or have no sense of humour or similar.

Irony indeed.

I don't see what the big fuss here is. Nothing particularly new or interesting, and the notion that anyone might think such bias doesn't affect us liberals is hysterical. We're all biased. The more extreme your position, the more difficulty you have distinguishing variations in position. This is a long-established phenomenon. That's why radical right wingers see all liberals as radicals, and why all radical left wingers see all conservatives as radicals.

In simple terms; people suck at the brain.
 
rwguinn said:
Hell-I would have Agreed with it!
ETA: Especially since we know that every member agrees absolutely with its leadership--President Obama...
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The thing is that this isn't one man, it is many people who are the popular voice of conservatism as well as being the leaders of the republican party. On a national level that is the republican party.
 
Ysidro said:
Let's see, we've got Godwin by page 2 and the discussion has moved away from the study to "People different from me are different!"

So, how about those Mets?
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while the OP was about the study (vaguely), the TITLE is "Colbert Study: Conservatives don't know he's joking" which is what the discussion centered on, and, by the study results and all the responses here from actual conservatives, is a lie.
Which, coming from the source of the OP, is funny in itself...
 
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