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The PG Film - Bob Heironimus and Patty

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SweatyYeti, the skulls in both neltana's and Mangler's overlays belong to generic skeletons provided by their respective software.

You are aware, aren't you, that everyone has different anatomical measurements? That BH apparently has a smaller skull than the generic Poser7 skeleton? That your skeleton, my skeleton, and BH's skeleton each have different measurements and proportions, but we are all well within the range of normal human variation? That even if Patty is not BH (which has not been conclusively shown by you or anyone), "it" still has normal human limb, head, neck and torso proportions?
 
Vortigern99 said:
SweatyYeti, the skulls in both neltana's and Mangler's overlays belong to generic skeletons provided by their respective software.

You are aware, aren't you, that everyone has different anatomical measurements? That BH apparently has a smaller skull than the generic Poser7 skeleton? That your skeleton, my skeleton, and BH's skeleton each have different measurements and proportions, but we are all well within the range of normal human variation? That even if Patty is not BH (which has not been conclusively shown by you or anyone), "it" still has normal human limb, head, neck and torso proportions?
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You do realize you are wasting your time dont you?
 
Wow, you guys talk about the PGF more then the Bigfoot researchers do.
 
makaya325 said:
That Patterson was in the Military.
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I believe he did that to establish where/how he met Jerry Merrit, who provided Patterson with many show biz contacts.

LONGTABBER PE said:
In and out of CONUS but I have initiated the contact process for BH
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Good luck with that. If you contact him, I hope you ask him for information about getting to the film site. It'll be interesting to see which one (if any) of the locations given as the site online matches up to what he says.
 
WGBH said:
Wow, you guys talk about the PGF more then the Bigfoot researchers do.
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Well, actually, there are more boards with more threads about the PGF and more people actively discussing it. The important difference is that this site represents the largest online skeptic community in the world, so you are going to get more attention because of that. Also, we tend to know more about the PGF than Bigfoot searchers do and discuss it in a more focused manner.

But yeah, we've had a ton of discussion on the PGF. What's your point? Many of the most important modern revelations about the film have come from us. Your welcome.
 
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Vortigern wrote:
That even if Patty is not BH (which has not been conclusively shown by you or anyone), "it" still has normal human limb, head, neck and torso proportions?
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Not exactly. Patty's body-width is well outside the range of an average human's.

The skeletons in mangler's, and neltana's animations don't even address that issue.



Vort wrote:

That BH apparently has a smaller skull than the Poser7 skeleton?
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Roger's "luck" continues....

(And so will the analysis :))
 
SweatyYeti said:
Not exactly. Patty's body-width is well outside the range of an average human's.
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What country do you live in?

Please provide some measurments to show Patty is outside a range common to humans. You just keep on trying and just keep on faceplanting. Try to be not so obvious a desperate believer.

Roger's "luck" continues....
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That lucky bastard filmed a Bigfoot encounter that along with the description matches nearly verbatim the female Bigfoot featured prominently in his book the year before. If that wasn't enough, the man claims two, count 'em - two Bigfoot encounters on his own property in Yakima. That guy had fall-down luck to film Bigfoot and encounter Bigfoot twice at his home.

(And so will the analysis :))
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You don't analyze as much as you desperately try to keep alive in your mind the preconceived notions you so deeply believe in. That is a proven fact. I dare you to refute that. Double dog.
 
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SweatyYeti said:
Not exactly. Patty's body-width is well outside the range of an average human's.
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Apart from kitakaze's beating-about-the-bush point that there are millions of obese persons in the US and elsewhere (c'mon, kit: come out and say it!), the fact is that a padded suit of the kind we've been discussing would easily account for Patty's so-called super-human width.

SweatyYeti said:
Roger's "luck" continues....

(And so will the analysis :))
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I'm sorry, because the person in the Patty suit has a skull that is smaller than a generic figure-posing software skeleton, Patterson is "lucky"? I fail to follow your line of reasoning here. Please explain.
 
SweatyYeti said:
Not exactly. Patty's body-width is well outside the range of an average human's.

The skeletons in mangler's, and neltana's animations don't even address that issue.
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This gem is so precious. Are you that desperate? Demonstrate using actual measurements that the range is outside the average human's. So far, you keep making all these claims but fail to deliver anything meaningful. All smoke but no fire. Come to think of it, there is not much smoke. I think it is more like some methane being released from somewhere.
 
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I also have a question about the frames between the 1:30 and 1:35 marks. The length of the upper arm bone shrinks significantly, within a very small degree of it's swing arc.
In fact....at the 1:31 mark, and at the 1:33 mark, there are 2 frames which show the arm in the equivalent place in the swing, only one is in the forward half, and the other is in the backward half of the swing....and yet the lengths of the upper arm bone are significantly different.

Can you possibly provide a short clip of that section of the video?
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I tried making a GIF of those frames and the result was either too large in size or too bad in quality to be useful. So, I uploaded the 150 frames as individual JPEGs:

http://s698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/neltana/Skel-Anim-Orig/

You can pick and choose what you want.

I also rerendered the same sequence from a different angle, focusing more closely on the upper arm. Those can be found here:

http://s698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/neltana/Skel-Anim-Alt/

I suspect what you are seeing is due to the fact that it isn't only the figure model that is moving. In order to line up properly with the second image, the camera has to shift too. So you are seeing the arm from a different angle, which makes a difference.

But, now you have the images, you can analyze them as you like.

Not exactly. Patty's body-width is well outside the range of an average human's.

The skeletons in mangler's, and neltana's animations don't even address that issue.
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So, have we settled the limb proportion issue? More than happy to move on if we have.

I just think it would be a shame to start talking about a new issue until we have settled this one. I have a very limited attention span, after all.
 
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Anybody notice anything odd about Nel's skeleton's upper arm in those 3 frames??
 
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