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ULTIMA1 · Apr 27, 2009

Reheat said:
Neither do I or anyone else. The more he posts the more he keeps stepping in it with gaffe's like these. The idiot knows absolutely NOTHING accurate about Security Clearances or related issues.

Sabrina said:
Cue U1 accusing me of lying about having a security clearance in 3...2...1....

*chuckles*

ITS REALLY SO FUN AND EASY TO PORVE YOU WRONG WITH FACTS. PLEASE LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING LIST OF CLEARENCES YOU FIND THE TS/SI CLEARENCE

Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK
Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK / G / B
Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK / G / HCS
Top Secret-SCI / SIOP
Top Secret-SCI / SSBI
Top Secret-SBI-TS/SBI
Top Secret-CISP-TS/CISP
Top Secret-ISSA-TS/ISSA
Top Secret-SAP-TS/SAP
Top Secret-SCI-CI polygraph-TS/SCI/CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI-Full/Scope Lifestyle-TS/SCI Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SCI-TS/SCI
Top Secret-SSBI-TS/SSBI
Top Secret-SCI /SSBI / SI / TK
Top Secret-SCI / TK / G / HCS / CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI / TK / G / Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SCI / SSBI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SI / TK / B / +
Top Secret-SSBI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / TK / G / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI/ SI / TK / G
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / SI / TK / G / B / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / TK / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI-B
Top Secret-EBI
Top Secret-SCI - SI / TK / G / HCS / I / P
Top Secret-CISP - TS / CISP
Top Secret-ISSA - TS / ISSA
Top Secret-SAP - TS / SAP
Top Secret-SCI - CI Poly - TS / SCI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI - Full / Scope Lifestyle - TS / SCI Lifestyle
Top Secret-SCI - TS / SCI
Top Secret-SSBI - SCI / TK / B / HCS / CI - Poly
Top Secret-SSBI - TS / SSBI

Unsecured Coins · Apr 27, 2009

no, she wasn't. she said members of her unit had them. not that she herself had one.

I, for the record.. had a ts clearance while I was in.

ULTIMA1 · Apr 27, 2009

JoeyDonuts said:
What compartments are you read into?

Thanks for proving you no noting about clearences.

Codewords are compartments under a clearence.

lapman · Apr 27, 2009

ULTIMA1 said:
Please stop the lies. Flight 800 was originally considered a crime, thats why the FBI and NTSB spent time doing criminal investigations.

Proof?

It does not matter what 9/11 was considered, by law the FBI and NTSB need to investiagte and report on the crashes. PLEASE STOP THE LIES.

Proof?

ULTIMA1 · Apr 27, 2009

Unsecured Coins said:
I, for the record.. had a ts clearance while I was in.

Then you should know that there is a TS/SI clearence.

ULTIMA1 · Apr 27, 2009

lapman said:
Proof?

It so fun and easy to show proof.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/transportation/july-dec97/kallstrom_11-18.html
After sixteen months, the FBI concluded its criminal investigation into the downing of TWA Flight 800

http://flight800.org/conflict.htm
The FBI conducted a criminal investigation that centered on suspicions that the explosion may have been caused by sabotage. The NTSB investigation was structured in accordance with guidelines specified in Chapter VIII, Title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations that permit the active assistance of all parties involved in the design and operation of the aircraft. The NTSB outlines their investigation procedure as follows:

lapman · Apr 27, 2009

ULTIMA1 said:
beachnut said:

You can't find the reports?

Click to expand...

I guess you cannot either since i have been asking for the official FBI and NTSb reports for years.

Funny how even a Viet Nam Vet could not even get a call or signal out, unless you want to suggest he was afriad of a man with a box cutter.

We do that at least 1 plane was warned about the hijackings.

Sorry, only the pilots have radios to talk to ATC; the Pilots were on ATC frequency being killed.[/quot]

If the pilots were on the radios why didn't they call for help when the hijackers were breaking in to the cockpit?

Very starange that out of 4 planes not one could get off a call or signal.

Thanks for proving again that you have no idea of anything pertaining to 9/11. When somebody is cutting your throat, the last thing on your mind is trying to key the mic. However, there are ATC recordings of the screams of one of the pilots, so somebody at least tried. I don't know about you, but most people take a moment to comprehend what is going on before reacting. You may be different, but most people put a higher priority on saving their own lives than trying to get the word out. IIRC, as of 9/11, procedures to handle a forced cockpit entry with the intent to kill was not a part of pilot training.

ULTIMA1 · Apr 27, 2009

lapman said:
When somebody is cutting your throat, the last thing on your mind is trying to key the mic.

How long does it take for someone to break into a cock pit and get to the pilots?.

Are the pilots just sitting there and doing nothing as someone is breaking into the cockpit?

However, there are ATC recordings of the screams of one of the pilots, so somebody at least tried.

Well that just ruined your theory that no one would have though of keying the mic.

Also what about the 3 other planes? Show me another case were hijacked planes could not get off a call or signal, let alone 4 planes in one day.

I don't know about you, but most people take a moment to comprehend what is going on before reacting.

Pilots are trained to react in emergencies.

You may be different, but most people put a higher priority on saving their own lives than trying to get the word out.

But pilots are trained to try to get word out.

Evilgiraffe · Apr 27, 2009

ULTIMA1 said:
ITS REALLY SO FUN AND EASY TO PORVE YOU WRONG WITH FACTS. PLEASE LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING LIST OF CLEARENCES YOU FIND THE TS/SI CLEARENCE

-Long list of supposed clearance codes snipped-

Ultima, have you copied and pasted that list from here? Pitching an ATS forum thread as a reliable source of information?

*Snicker*

Mince · Apr 27, 2009

Dude, you know you can respond to several people in one post, right? Spam posting makes the thread confusing and unwieldy.

Here, I'll show you:

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See?

ULTIMA1 · Apr 27, 2009

Evilgiraffe said:
Pitching an ATS forum thread as a reliable source of information?

But the information is reliable, it does not matter where it came from.

Thanks for showing that you completly avioded the facts.

lapman · Apr 27, 2009

ULTIMA1 said:
It so fun and easy to show proof.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/transportation/july-dec97/kallstrom_11-18.html
After sixteen months, the FBI concluded its criminal investigation into the downing of TWA Flight 800

http://flight800.org/conflict.htm
The FBI conducted a criminal investigation that centered on suspicions that the explosion may have been caused by sabotage. The NTSB investigation was structured in accordance with guidelines specified in Chapter VIII, Title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations that permit the active assistance of all parties involved in the design and operation of the aircraft. The NTSB outlines their investigation procedure as follows:

Try learning how to read and comprehend. From the second article right before your cherry picked quote:

The search for the cause of the explosion of TWA Flight 800 on July 17, 1996 resulted in the most extensive accident investigation in aviation history. The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) began two separate investigations into the tragic and unexplained accident.

Interesting how you completely ignored that. Yes, the FBI did perform a criminal investigation. However, then NTSB did not. Further on down it states:

The structure of NTSB investigations is not suited to criminal investigations.

The whole article is about how the FBI hampered the NTSB's investigation. So, this proves that the NTSB does not perform criminal investigations.

Gamolon · Apr 27, 2009

ULTIMA1 said:
ITS REALLY SO FUN AND EASY TO PORVE YOU WRONG WITH FACTS. PLEASE LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING LIST OF CLEARENCES YOU FIND THE TS/SI CLEARENCE

Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK
Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK / G / B
Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK / G / HCS
Top Secret-SCI / SIOP
Top Secret-SCI / SSBI
Top Secret-SBI-TS/SBI
Top Secret-CISP-TS/CISP
Top Secret-ISSA-TS/ISSA
Top Secret-SAP-TS/SAP
Top Secret-SCI-CI polygraph-TS/SCI/CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI-Full/Scope Lifestyle-TS/SCI Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SCI-TS/SCI
Top Secret-SSBI-TS/SSBI
Top Secret-SCI /SSBI / SI / TK
Top Secret-SCI / TK / G / HCS / CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI / TK / G / Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SCI / SSBI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SI / TK / B / +
Top Secret-SSBI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / TK / G / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI/ SI / TK / G
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / SI / TK / G / B / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / TK / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI-B
Top Secret-EBI
Top Secret-SCI - SI / TK / G / HCS / I / P
Top Secret-CISP - TS / CISP
Top Secret-ISSA - TS / ISSA
Top Secret-SAP - TS / SAP
Top Secret-SCI - CI Poly - TS / SCI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI - Full / Scope Lifestyle - TS / SCI Lifestyle
Top Secret-SCI - TS / SCI
Top Secret-SSBI - SCI / TK / B / HCS / CI - Poly
Top Secret-SSBI - TS / SSBI

Funny. I don't see TS grouped with SI anywhere in that list. I see TS / SCI. I see TS / SSBI. I see TS / CISP. There are others also. I don't see your TS / SI clearance anywhere in that list.

And Before you say that you meant TS is the same as spelling out Top Secret, I don't see a listing for Top Secret-SI either.

lapman · Apr 27, 2009

ULTIMA1 said:
How long does it take for someone to break into a cock pit and get to the pilots?.

Less than a second. The cockpits are not spacious. You can get to the pilots in one step. Remember, the hijackers trained in how to get to and kill the pilots quickly.

Are the pilots just sitting there and doing nothing as someone is breaking into the cockpit?

Wow. Is that what you think pilots do? Even with autopilot on, they are constantly looking out for other aircraft and listening to ATC radio traffic. What's going on behind them is not on the priority list. All the hijacker has to do is get a flight attendant to ask the pilot to open the door if it was even locked.

Well that just ruined your theory that no one would have though of keying the mic.

Only partially. However, it ruins yours as well.

Also what about the 3 other planes? Show me another case were hijacked planes could not get off a call or signal, let alone 4 planes in one day.

Please provide one example prior to 9/11 where foreign nationals invaded the cockpit with the intent to kill the pilots.

Pilots are trained to react in emergencies.

Specific emergencies. Cockpit intrusion with the intent to kill was not one of them They were trained to cooperate with hijackers since, prior to 9/11, hijackers let the plane land safely.

But pilots are trained to try to get word out.

If they can.

Gamolon · Apr 27, 2009

ULTIMA1 said:
No i have not. I have an NSA TS/SI clearence with 6 compartments and know what i am talking about.

Hmmm. I don't see NSA TS / SI listed in the above list either.

Gamolon · Apr 27, 2009

ULTIMA1 said:
ITS REALLY SO FUN AND EASY TO PORVE YOU WRONG WITH FACTS. PLEASE LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING LIST OF CLEARENCES YOU FIND THE TS/SI CLEARENCE

Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK
Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK / G / B
Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK / G / HCS
Top Secret-SCI / SIOP
Top Secret-SCI / SSBI
Top Secret-SBI-TS/SBI
Top Secret-CISP-TS/CISP
Top Secret-ISSA-TS/ISSA
Top Secret-SAP-TS/SAP
Top Secret-SCI-CI polygraph-TS/SCI/CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI-Full/Scope Lifestyle-TS/SCI Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SCI-TS/SCI
Top Secret-SSBI-TS/SSBI
Top Secret-SCI /SSBI / SI / TK
Top Secret-SCI / TK / G / HCS / CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI / TK / G / Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SCI / SSBI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SI / TK / B / +
Top Secret-SSBI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / TK / G / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI/ SI / TK / G
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / SI / TK / G / B / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / TK / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI-B
Top Secret-EBI
Top Secret-SCI - SI / TK / G / HCS / I / P
Top Secret-CISP - TS / CISP
Top Secret-ISSA - TS / ISSA
Top Secret-SAP - TS / SAP
Top Secret-SCI - CI Poly - TS / SCI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI - Full / Scope Lifestyle - TS / SCI Lifestyle
Top Secret-SCI - TS / SCI
Top Secret-SSBI - SCI / TK / B / HCS / CI - Poly
Top Secret-SSBI - TS / SSBI

Can you tell me why your list matches the list from this site perfectly? From the order of the listings to the spaces and no spaces between the "/" in some of the titles?

http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/internetworkers/2005-March/019624.html

Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK
Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK / G / B
Top Secret-SCI / SI / TK / G / HCS
Top Secret-SCI / SIOP
Top Secret-SCI / SSBI
Top Secret-SBI-TS/SBI
Top Secret-CISP-TS/CISP
Top Secret-ISSA-TS/ISSA
Top Secret-SAP-TS/SAP
Top Secret-SCI-CI polygraph-TS/SCI/CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI-Full/Scope Lifestyle-TS/SCI Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SCI-TS/SCI
Top Secret-SSBI-TS/SSBI
Top Secret-SCI /SSBI / SI / TK
Top Secret-SCI / TK / G / HCS / CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI / TK / G / Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SCI / SSBI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SI / TK / B / +
Top Secret-SSBI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / TK / G / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI/ SI / TK / G
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / SI / TK / G / B / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / TK / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI-B
Top Secret-EBI
Top Secret-SCI - SI / TK / G / HCS / I / P
Top Secret-CISP - TS / CISP
Top Secret-ISSA - TS / ISSA
Top Secret-SAP - TS / SAP
Top Secret-SCI - CI Poly - TS / SCI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SCI - Full / Scope Lifestyle - TS / SCI Lifestyle
Top Secret-SCI - TS / SCI
Top Secret-SSBI - SCI / TK / B / HCS / CI - Poly
Top Secret-SSBI - TS / SSBI

You mean to tell me you don't know the types of clearances yourself and that you have to go copy the list from another site?

Again. I don't see your clearance you claim to have anywhere in that list.

beachnut · Apr 27, 2009

ULTIMA1 said:
How long does it take for someone to break into a cock pit and get to the pilots?.

Are the pilots just sitting there and doing nothing as someone is breaking into the cockpit?

Well that just ruined your theory that no one would have though of keying the mic.

Also what about the 3 other planes? Show me another case were hijacked planes could not get off a call or signal, let alone 4 planes in one day.

Pilots are trained to react in emergencies.

But pilots are trained to try to get word out.

A second; I have seen the cockpit wide open, less than a second, surprise you are dead; before they even turn around; this was not a hijacking where the terrorist tell the pilot you are being hijacked! They entered the cockpit and killed the pilots without talking! Only after they killed the pilots did they act and talk like hijackers to cover their plan to hit buildings. You are not as smart as the terrorists you apologize for. How NSA of you.

Pilots are sitting facing the wrong way to see who comes in; you must not be a pilot; they are facing forward the door is behind them.

The pilots were heard on ATC freq, yep someone had a hand on a mic when he should have had a hand on the hand cutting his throat. Hand on mic means you are one handed, one pilot tried to talk and instead he was dead. What is your problem? You are so brave now sitting in your computer chair making up junk ideas on 911 and unable to find the real evidence? Are you a pilot too?

The other pilots were killed, how do you talk and signal when you are dead? What is your motive for not having hijackers in the planes when they were seen, the dead pilots were seen, and this is all real evidence? You are not an analyst at the NSA.

Never seen anyone cop well with the emergency surprise cut throat; have you?

No, pilots are trained to fly the aircraft first, and take care of the emergency, and then talk. I think terrorist cutting throats may be reported if you were not busy being killed. Why do you make up stupid ideas.

Where is the Critic saying as you have spewed all over the Internet, 93 was intercepted and shot down. You said it I have proof; were is the Critic? You said you read it?

Reheat · Apr 27, 2009

This is all knee slapping funny. Someone went through the Wikipedia article pulling all of terms encountered there and created what they thought was the correct combination of the terms and posted it at ATS. It has been propagated to other sites following this listing at ATS.

SI is a Special Intelligence BRIEFING to someone with an TS - SCI Security Clearance. Needless to say Ultima continues to prove that he is a FRAUD.

I don't quite understand why ANYONE continues to respond to him. Please let him post his drivel and ignore it. If he gets no attention he'll hopefully go somewhere else to spam......

Sparky · Apr 27, 2009

Reheat said:
I don't quite understand why ANYONE continues to respond to him. Please let him post his drivel and ignore it. If he gets no attention he'll hopefully go somewhere else to spam......

I switched him off weeks ago.

PB2007 · Apr 27, 2009

ULTIMA1 said:
But the information is reliable, it does not matter where it came from.

Thanks for showing that you completly avioded the facts.

At the top of the ATS page

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, This list is based on a list compiled by a nonauthoritative source on the Internet.

Ah!!! The internet equivalent of "i know man, who knew someone and his best mate worked with a man who met someone on a bus who...."

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