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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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joobz said:
You mean the greatest event in the history of the world has no historical evidence for it's existence?

That's some great event.
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Then why are we spending so much time talking about this event 2000 years later. You need to really spend some time thinking about that.
 
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DOC said:
Then why are we spending so much time talking about this event 2000 years later. You need to really spend some time thinking about that.
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I still talk about the oddessy with people, but that doesn't mean I'm going to worry about Scylla and Charybdis when sailing around Greece.
 
joobz said:
I still talk about the oddessy with people, but that doesn't mean I'm going to worry about Scylla and Charybdis when sailing around Greece.
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How many posts have you made on JREF regarding the Odyssey.
 
DOC said:
If the Resurrection story was made up, it probably would be clear and detailed.
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DOC, as far as we know the stories (plural) of your messiah's birth, life, death and resurrection are ALL made up

You promised us some evidence, remember?

You haven't got any

So...

What is this thread about?
 
DOC said:
If the Resurrection story was made up, it probably would be clear and detailed.
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Not at all. If it were made up by the gospel authors in collaboration, this would be true. However, if they were taking a very rough outline and making up their own details, you would be wrong. In addition, if they were basing their supposedly independent accounts on hearsay, speculation, and rumor, you would also be wrong. By all evidence, the third scenario is the most likely. Again, it is all about what they think (or hope) happened, not what really happened.
 
DOC said:
Then why are we spending so much time talking about this event 2000 years later. You need to really spend some time thinking about that.
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Other than this thread I honestly can not remember the last time I discussed the resurrection. I guess it is over 10 years ago.

I enjoy talking about it here because I have a cruel sense of humour, and the opportunity is too good to turn down.
 
DOC said:
If the Resurrection story was made up, it probably would be clear and detailed.
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Nope.
Have you ever listened to story tellers riffing on a legend? There's a frame work to the stories, but the author/teller will change it up however they see fit. It's part of what makes the retelling so much fun. Given that the gospels are seperated in thier writing by decades, it's not unexpected that the story told changed a bit.



DOC said:
How many posts have you made on JREF regarding the Odyssey.
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none that I can remember. But then again, I can't remember debating anyone who was foolish enough to believe that simply because the story is old and still talked about, that it must be true.
 
six7s said:
DOC, as far as we know the stories (plural) of your messiah's birth, life, death and resurrection are ALL made up

You promised us some evidence, remember?

You haven't got any
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Yes, I do, and from Non-Christian sources:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=4633677#post4633677

And regarding the thread's topic there is this:

http://books.google.com/books?id=PC...Geisler+10+reasons&client=firefox-a#PPA275,M1

and if you live outside the US and can't get the previous URL you can view this one:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=51643
 
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DOC said:
Yes, and from Non-Christian sources:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=4633677#post4633677
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Same old lie. Yes lie. You've been told that these are not "sources" of anything relevant to your claim and some are not even reliable. Your repeated use despite knowing that these are false statements is an obvious lie.
And regarding the thread's topic there is this:

http://books.google.com/books?id=PC...Geisler+10+reasons&client=firefox-a#PPA275,M1
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Same old discredited garbage.

Do you truly believe that by repeating the same discredited nonsense you've been spouting for months that it will somehow magically be accepted? Very sad.
 
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Hokulele said:
Spam, spam, spam, spam, spammity-spaaaaaaam.
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If people keep asking the same question, I've got a right to keep giving the same answer.

And by the way, 2 of the URL's are the first time I posted them.
 
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DOC said:
Of course this is false.
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Not according to you:
DOC said:
Non Sequitur -- copyists of a Josephus' work are not bible writers.

And if something is added to a quote, what is added can certainly be true. And if the copyists did not believe what they were doing was wrong, but an accepted activity (assuming there was an insertion), and they were not trying to deceive but inform people where information was very scarce, then there was no lying.
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You and other skeptics have the right to your opinion. If people read my 725 posts they will know mine.
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No. Everyone's rejection of your nonsense if a valid conclusion based on your inability to furnish evidence.
People can real your posts to see, all you have is a delusion.
 
DOC said:
Of course this is false.
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That's right. You only admitted that it was an interpolation and that's COMPLETELY different.:rolleyes:


It's funny how you drop a subject when you know you can't win and then go back to that topic later as though we never addressed your points.

The latest issue was the inconsistencies in the gospels. It's clear that they can't ALL be right. So regarding the ressurection, if all we have are inconsistent stories written decades apart and later after the fact, How can we know that it even happened?

Fact is, based upon your use of the word evidence, We have more evidence of Elvis being alive in the 90s than we do of the resurrection ever happening.
 
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