Thermitic Pyrotechnics in the WTC Made Simple

[Galileo]

Can you please tell us why they fire proof steel columns then?

Fire proofing does not protect steel from thermite. Suoer-hot thermite cuts right through fireproofing.

 

[nicepants]

nano-thermite is an explosive. Thermite is not.

So which one are you claiming was present?

 

[johnny karate]

Truthers have been blathering about this "discovery" for a while now. And yet as of this morning, I see no mention of it in the MSM, nor do I see any mention of any formal proceedings taking place to re-investigate 9/11, populist or otherwise.

Galileo, when do anticipate this verifiable discovery of explosives will have any sort of real-world impact?

I've checked the news again this morning. Still no mention of explosives residue found at the WTC site. No mention of a re-investigation into 9/11. No mention of a populist uprising spurred by the news that 9/11 may have been an inside job.

What gives?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Not if it is spaced out and reacts unevenly. Do you think it was the office fires that burned for 14 weeks?

offcie fires makes a hell of a lot more sense than assuming magical thermite can burn for 14 weeks

if you want to prove your point, get some thermite and see if you can keep a continuous reaction going for 14 weeks, heck, try 1 week to start, see what you can do

 

[Galileo]

IIRC, the "thermite reaction" that was recorded when the chip was lit was basically instantaneous. The issue is not how hot the fire got, but how long it would have to stay that hot to heat the steel to that temp. The scientifically challenged twoofers like Galileo seem to think that the heat transfer is instantaneous. Anyone who has taken metal shop in school knows different.

Much of the solid thermite stayed underground, while much of the nano-thermite floated away in the dust.

 

[Galileo]

So which one are you claiming was present?

What are you claiming was present?

 

[lapman]

Not if it is spaced out and reacts unevenly. Do you think it was the office fires that burned for 14 weeks?

You have highly compressed combustible material in an insulated space. I bet it's the same phenomenon that has kept underground coal fires burning for decades and even centuries. Are you going to claim that thermite is responsible for that as well?
Also, if all they needed was super-duper-nano-therm*te, why would the need regular old thermite as well?

 

[nicepants]

nano-thermite is an explosive. Thermite is not.

So which one are you claiming was present?

What are you claiming was present?

I'm not claiming, I'm asking

Which one was present: thermite or nano-thermite?

ETA:

Much of the solid thermite stayed underground, while much of the nano-thermite floated away in the dust.

I see now you're claiming that both were present.

Answer me this: Is jones' paper proof of thermite, or proof of nano-thermite?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

You have highly compressed combustible material in an insulated space. I bet it's the same phenomenon that has kept underground coal fires burning for decades and even centuries.

millenia even

Scientists estimate that Australia’s Burning Mountain, the oldest known coal fire, has burned for 6,000 years.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/10013541.html


of course the same process wouldnt work for thermite, these fires burn a long time because oxygen is restricted underground, thermite is self oxidizing so a lack of oxygen wouldnt slow it down, it would still burn fast as ever

 

[Drudgewire]

Also, if all they needed was super-duper-nano-therm*te, why would the need regular old thermite as well?

NWO Union rules.

 

[Galileo]

I've checked the news again this morning. Still no mention of explosives residue found at the WTC site. No mention of a re-investigation into 9/11. No mention of a populist uprising spurred by the news that 9/11 may have been an inside job.

What gives?

I said the thermite explains the super-hot spots detetected by NASA thermal images, the reported molten steel, the molten steel seen dripping from WTC 2, and the fact that the fires burned underground for 14 weeks.

It explains why hundreds of people heard explosions prior to the destruction of the three towers. It explains what Barry Jennings, Michael Hess, and Willie Rodriguez heard. It explains why WTC 7 fell down, even though it did not have any jet fuel in it nor had any fireproofing dislodged.

The explosive residue was analyzed and reported on by Dr. Steven Jones a few years ago. Now his discovery has been confirmed by an international team of scientists.

The scientific team found that the residue was indeed from thermite.

Right now, dozens of other scientists are doing research for many other papers putting the explanations I just made into scientific language for peer review. Other scientists are revisiting the scientific papers already published by the Journal of 9/11 Studies for publication in other scientific journals.

That is the future, my boys.

 

[Gamolon]

Fire proofing does not protect steel from thermite. Suoer-hot thermite cuts right through fireproofing.

Not my point and you didn't answer the question.

 

[Galileo]

offcie fires makes a hell of a lot more sense than assuming magical thermite can burn for 14 weeks

if you want to prove your point, get some thermite and see if you can keep a continuous reaction going for 14 weeks, heck, try 1 week to start, see what you can do

Thermite is not a magical substance. Its properties are known by scientists, not by magicians and alchemists.

 

[The Big Dog]

I'm sorry, wikipedia is not a legitimate source. It is not peer reviewed by scientists and anyone can post stuff there.

It is not the type or material that a 4th grader should be exposed to.

Now again, please explain why the fires burned underground for over three months.

The thermite found by the scientific team explains it very well.

BWHAHAHA! Oh man, THAT IS HILARIOUS!

So Gal, you do not believe in the concept of mine fires? Or you just don't understand them?

Hey, maybe if Bentham Started an Open Access Journal of Mine Fires, then you'd believe in them?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

I said the thermite explains the super-hot spots detetected by NASA thermal images, the reported molten steel, the molten steel seen dripping from WTC 2, and the fact that the fires burned underground for 14 weeks.

thermite does not explain 14 week fires, since it wouldnt stay hot for that long

typical office fires however, can explain all of the above

It explains why hundreds of people heard explosions prior to the destruction of the three towers. It explains what Barry Jennings, Michael Hess, and Willie Rodriguez heard. It explains why WTC 7 fell down, even though it did not have any jet fuel in it nor had any fireproofing dislodged.

seeing as how thermite is not an explosive i fail to see how it explains explosions

of course explosions are not uncommon in fires either

The scientific team found that the residue was indeed from thermite.

they failed to prove it was thermite by burning it in an oxygen rich environment, the wildly deviant enthalpies they recorded also dont bolster their case

 

[lapman]

millenia even


http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/10013541.html


of course the same process wouldnt work for thermite, these fires burn a long time because oxygen is restricted underground, thermite is self oxidizing so a lack of oxygen wouldnt slow it down, it would still burn fast as ever

That's why I like to use the Dresden and Japan fire bombings for comparison. Thousands of tons of thermite bombs were dropped and didn't burn for months. In Japan, the wood structures burned easily, but in Dresden, they dropped high explosive, air-burst bombs to blow off the roofs so the thermite could have something to burn. Yet those fires were out in days, not months.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Thermite is not a magical substance. Its properties are known by scientists, not by magicians and alchemists.

making it react continuously for 14 weeks would require some sort of magic

or some guy slowly pouring more thermite onto the reaction, did anyone report seeing that?

 

[zooterkin]

The explosive residue was analyzed and reported on by Dr. Steven Jones a few years ago. Now his discovery has been confirmed by an international team of scientists.

The scientific team found that the residue was indeed from thermite.

Oh, that would be interesting. Do you have a link to where a scientific team proved this?

 

[Galileo]

You have highly compressed combustible material in an insulated space. I bet it's the same phenomenon that has kept underground coal fires burning for decades and even centuries. Are you going to claim that thermite is responsible for that as well?
Also, if all they needed was super-duper-nano-therm*te, why would the need regular old thermite as well?

what's your evidence that coal was buried underground at ground zero. Please produce evidence.

Also, please define your terms. What is "super-duper-nano-therm*te"?

Hoffman's paper does not include that term in the glossary.

Glossary
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/thermitics_made_simple.html#glossary

excerpt from glossary:

"scanning electron microscope: A kind of microscope used to produce very high-resolution images of a sample's surface by scanning it with an electron beam.

thermitic: Having the characteristics of thermite, and thus the ability to release large amounts of energy on ignition."

Please note that in the alphabetically arranged glossary, "super-duper-nano-therm*te" should have appeared between "scanning electron microscope" and "thermitic".

 

[Galileo]

That's why I like to use the Dresden and Japan fire bombings for comparison. Thousands of tons of thermite bombs were dropped and didn't burn for months. In Japan, the wood structures burned easily, but in Dresden, they dropped high explosive, air-burst bombs to blow off the roofs so the thermite could have something to burn. Yet those fires were out in days, not months.

none of those bombs made steel framed buildings fall in controlled demolitions.